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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | The European members of the board must be trying to contain their laughter (or at least, be a bit baffled) by all the vinyl nostalgia on offer here.
In Europe, vinyl never went away. The buying into all the 'audio lies' the music industry was selling was strictly an American (and to somewhat lesser degree... Canadian) phenomena.
When the industry types went over there and tried to convince them vinyl was dead and MC's were the next big thing... then CD's... then... then... they all just nodded politely (as they always do...) and got on with their listening... in large part, to all the latest titles... on VINYL!!
You can't blame the music industry shills for trying though... It worked when they told us prog was dead and then proceeded to shove RAP down our throats.
The Europeans are still laughing hard about that one too... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Funny, the CD was invented in europe. |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | An excerpt from an article on the history of CD technology...
"Actually, Philips and Sony simply licensed much of their claim from technology that was invented 20 years earlier. Jim Russell, a scientist at Battelle's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Richland, WA invented the "optical-digital data-storage technology..."
Hmmm... I always thought Philips invented it as well... And a wonderous thing it is too!! |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by Avatar4550:
The European members of the board must be trying to contain their laughter (or at least, be a bit baffled) by all the vinyl nostalgia on offer here.
In Europe, vinyl never went away. The buying into all the 'audio lies' the music industry was selling was strictly an American (and to somewhat lesser degree... Canadian) phenomena.
When the industry types went over there and tried to convince them vinyl was dead and MC's were the next big thing... then CD's... then... then... they all just nodded politely (as they always do...) and got on with their listening... in large part, to all the latest titles... on VINYL!!
In the USA, buyers are easily influenced. And CD's are much cheaper to produce than vinyl.
Then they charge more money for the CD's than for the vinyl.
You can't blame the music industry shills for trying though... It worked when they told us prog was dead and then proceeded to shove RAP down our throats. The Europeans are still laughing hard about that one too... Rap Crap is so easy to produce and does not entail any musical talent... Like the ability to play any kind of instrument. All the marketers need is a blank slate to mold to their sales program.
Unfortunately for the media, now that the world has switched to digital program files I haven't bought an New album in Years. I just listen to Pandora. I do still buy old stuff from thrift stores. But I have not heard any new music on the radio that was worth buying.
I do see some new artists on ACL and there are some interesting local artists here in Portland.
Plus some OFC members have posted some good music. :eek: :D |
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Location: NJ | I still have a discwasher and fluid in the red bottle.
I will agree that vinyl is king but with the right d to a converter cds sound awesome.
of course you need the right amps and speakers and ....... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by alpep:
I will agree that vinyl is king but with the right d to a converter cds sound awesome.
That's my opinion also. 98% of the vinyl sound with 500% less hassle. |
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Location: Utah | Originally posted by Avatar4550:
An excerpt from an article on the history of CD technology...
"Actually, Philips and Sony simply licensed much of their claim from technology that was invented 20 years earlier. Jim Russell, a scientist at Battelle's Pacific Northwest National Laboratory in Richland, WA invented the "optical-digital data-storage technology..." I thought David Bowie's character, the alien, in The Man Who Fell to Earth in the early 70's invented it. |
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Location: Texas | Originally posted by stephent28:
Originally posted by alpep:
I will agree that vinyl is king but with the right d to a converter cds sound awesome.
That's my opinion also. 98% of the vinyl sound with 500% less hassle. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Couple of years ago Al turned me on to a Lavry Engineering D/A converter. VERY nice. |
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Location: NJ | it is the best |
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| Originally posted by Avatar4550:
The European members of the board must be trying to contain their laughter (or at least, be a bit baffled) by all the vinyl nostalgia on offer here.
In Europe, vinyl never went away. The buying into all the 'audio lies' the music industry was selling was strictly an American (and to somewhat lesser degree... Canadian) phenomena.
When the industry types went over there and tried to convince them vinyl was dead and MC's were the next big thing... then CD's... then... then... they all just nodded politely (as they always do...) and got on with their listening... in large part, to all the latest titles... on VINYL!!
You can't blame the music industry shills for trying though... It worked when they told us prog was dead and then proceeded to shove RAP down our throats.
The Europeans are still laughing hard about that one too... You're a bigger twat than I thought you were. And I thought you were King Size. |
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| I thought you were dead. In fact I would have bet my shirt on it.
Welcome back. |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | I speak to people in Europe on a daily basis and what I said is an accurate impression of what I have heard from them on the subject I mentioned.
Was this an attack on Americans or their character... Far from it!! Are a good portion of the people working in A&R for American labels douchebags (I think it's a requisite to work in A&R anywhere, not just in the US)?
Is any of what I said anti-American (here we go again...)?
I spent all day yesterday in the United States with some of the kindest, most genuine people I have ever met ANYWHERE and they know how I feel about the United States!! I won't try to convince you... You obviously hear what you want to hear.
So Shroeder... Am I a twat? A big one? Possibly? At least, I don't resort to name calling or getting personal in public forums, so that says something.
If you don't agree with what I've said, please feel free to voice your opinion in a constructive way... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Schroeder lives in the UK so I imagine he has a pretty good handle on the things of which you speak. |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | So then, a difference of opinion... fair enough. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I never figured Schroeder for a guy who liked rap. |
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Location: Michigan | come on boys lets play nice with each other :mad: for crying out loud its getting close to christmas .only 75 more days to go .
now i want both of you to listen to this nice christmas song and make up :D GWB
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9XNQdxlRm9c |
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Location: Winnipeg, Manitoba CANADA | Good idea GWB... humming along now... hmm hmm hmm :D
Back on the subject of audio formats (think that's what we were talking about?)... Anyone here into the DVD-A format?
Personally, I think it just confuses the market even more than it is, but would like to hear your opinions... |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Avatar4550:
Anyone here into the DVD-A format?
Personally, I think it just confuses the market even more than it is, but would like to hear your opinions... My player handles all formats and I have DVD-Audio, HD-Audio, DTS-Audio and probably some others I am not thinking of.
Some of the music in these formats is FABULOUS! I love to sit and listen to a well mastered CD and be immersed in the music.
Some sound like crap and should have never been remastered and left alone in their original format.
A typical case in that the public was 1) confused 2) had to buy MORE equipment to play the content 3) marketing was spotty and sucked 4) cost in most cases was too high.
Another great idea destroyed by corporate greed. |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | Stephen (or any of you other audiophiles) - have you had any experience with anything like this?
High End Ipod Doc
It seems like a nice bridge from ipod to higher end audio. |
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Location: Tennessee | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
In the USA, buyers are easily influenced. And CD's are much cheaper to produce than vinyl. Then they charge more money for the CD's than for the vinyl. I'd like to know where this is! When I price out CD vs. Vinyl for a new purchase, Vinyl is usually 2x the price of the CD. |
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Purchasing music.... the new normal?
