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stephent28
Posted 2008-06-26 8:55 PM (#33092 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Originally posted by muzza:
Here are my suggestions.


Insomniac Pop Quiz
Kill it off, PLEASE.

GUITARWANNABEE
SOMEONE BREAK IN TO HIS COMPUTER ROOM AND DISABLE HIS CAPS LOCK KEY. Sorry GWB, but it's driving me nuts. Everyone else, if I'm the only one, please tell me and I'll pull my head in.

Ditto

and double double ditto! The all caps is the most consistently annoying thing I have seen in years!
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-26 9:04 PM (#33093 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Stephen, you and Schroeder are the ONLY other members who've passed comment on this so far. Thanks for your backup, mate.

PS. Sorry about using the caps lock on 'only'. :(
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-06-26 9:12 PM (#33094 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......
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Originally posted by cliff:
Lose the Commodore.
But, but, it's the 128 not the 64!
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-26 10:19 PM (#33095 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Thanks Muzza..

The layout:
Investigate phpBB3.
Already have one picked out, but thanks.

If you do nothing else, tone down the blue.
The only Blue I see is some bold type here and there, very subtle on my monitors. Al likes to say I'm colorblind. I'm not, just the typical red/green thing. Anyway, let me know where it is.

Moderation:
Time to enlist some help. I posted about the recent login problem and it slipped past you both. Miles and Al, you know the people on this board that have similar ideals to you and can be trusted. Enlist their help, make them a moderator with limited access. Moderators can be assigned with many different levels of access in phpBB3. My suggestion as a good starting point would be Brad (Slipkid)
I'll discuss the moderator idea with Al. As for the "login" problem... really.. you POSTED it... and wonder why we didn't see it.. really?.


Site specific problems.
Create a separate page for reporting problems and link to it on all other pages
Excellent idea. Talked this one over with Al a few weeks ago actually. It will happen. Doesn't do much good when the site is down tho, and there doesn't really seem to be any other issues, but if it's useful at least once.. that's good enough for me. We actually thought that more folks might make suggestions if they seems anonymous too.

Gallery
Everyone use their own gallery, or someone suggest a common free one, and link to it in your sig line or profile. There are a brazillion options out there.
Agree, but there is a good Gallery I use elsewhere, actually part of the BB I use and will probably employ here.

Cliff's sig line / profile suggestion.
+1
Agree, but like the Gallery... I'd rather people just use mySPace or something more appropriate. The newer software will have a better handle on this.


Off Topic
Leave everything as is is. It's pretty well self-policed and makes this place what it is. I've referred to it previously as a cyber-pub, and I think the analogy is perfect.
Agree for different reasons but still agree

Insomniac Pop Quiz
Kill it off, PLEASE.
People seem to like it...

GUITARWANNABEE
SOMEONE BREAK IN TO HIS COMPUTER ROOM AND DISABLE HIS CAPS LOCK KEY. Sorry GWB, but it's driving me nuts. Everyone else, if I'm the only one, please tell me and I'll pull my head in.
Agree, it may seem silly, but it's just rude.
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-26 10:38 PM (#33096 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
As for the "login" problem... really.. you POSTED it... and wonder why we didn't see it.. really?.
That's a bit harsh Miles. You're upset that nobody let you know? I tried to let you know. The only page that wasn't loading was the welcome page. If YOU couldn't log on then YOU would have known there was a problem, making this whole thread irrelevant. Anyone who comes straight here, bypassing the intro page wouldn't have even known there was a problem.

You said yourself that you don't read every post. THATS how you missed it. Geez, someone tries to help they get the piss taken out of them. :rolleyes:
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-26 10:45 PM (#33097 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
The only Blue I see is some bold type here and there, very subtle on my monitors. ........ Anyway, let me know where it is.
ALL of the royal blue bold writing. Basically, everything on the page that's bold Royal blue kind of clashes with the whole shades of grey look of the site. I just find it visually uncomfortable. Once again, just my $0.02
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-06-26 11:16 PM (#33098 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......
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If possible please impliment a "Posts Since My Last Visit" button. Maybe it's already here and I just can't find it. Thanks, Dave
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Gallerinski
Posted 2008-06-26 11:29 PM (#33099 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......
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Sorry, my creative juices are starting to flow ...

Self serving request, but there is a lot of cross-traffic between the OFC and the Tak forum. How about adding the Tak forum to the "Links" page? OFC is already added to the links page over there. The history of these brands, their founders, distributors and fans are somewhat intertwined via Kaman.

I don't know, just a thought.

Dave
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-27 2:01 AM (#33100 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Originally posted by muzza:
Originally posted by Mr. Ovation:
As for the "login" problem... really.. you POSTED it... and wonder why we didn't see it.. really?.
That's a bit harsh Miles. You're upset that nobody let you know? I tried to let you know. The only page that wasn't loading was the welcome page. If YOU couldn't log on then YOU would have known there was a problem, making this whole thread irrelevant. Anyone who comes straight here, bypassing the intro page wouldn't have even known there was a problem.

You said yourself that you don't read every post. THATS how you missed it. Geez, someone tries to help they get the piss taken out of them. :rolleyes:
Sorry Muzza, I thought you'd get the irony. The whole point was/is

Got a problem/complaint/suggestion.. EMAIL it. not POST... EMAIL.. webmaster@ovationfanclub.com mileskb@aol.com. etc etc.. tell me you haven't read that a 1000 times.

Didn't mean to be harsh, kindofa friendly ribbing.

Like when you call Comcast to say you don't have access to the Internet and they suggest you download the latest patch from their web page. That kind of irony.

Ok... back to reality. It's not just here. It's a mentality that permeates the IT/IS customer support world. Give someone the EXACT information to address their issue, and they will do EVERYTHING they can think of ACCEPT that one thing. I deal with it all day, all night and have for over 20 years.

So yes.. when I see someone say they POSTED something hoping an ADMIN will see it. I think it's funny, cause it just is. The several people I already emailed and called telling about it thought it was funny too. Only exceeded in funny by ME having a quadruple post on the previous page.

I think I'm gonna join Al. I give up.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-27 2:05 AM (#33101 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Gallerinski

- "Posts Since My Last Visit"
Not in this software. It doesn't keep track of when you log in.

- Link to TAK..
That's doable.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-27 2:42 AM (#33102 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Two birds, one rock.

I adjusted the color getting rid of most of the Blue, the rollovers are still blue as this IS an Ovation Forum afterall.

The value added is that there is a little clearer difference between threads you've read and threads you haven't.

Also added a link to the TAK forum in the links section.
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dvd
Posted 2008-06-27 2:46 AM (#33103 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Gallerinski, probably not worth the trouble, but here's what I use as a "Posts Since My Last Visit" workaround...

Under "My Profile", there's an " Update New Post Indicators " link.. so after I'm done surfing around the forums, I'll hit that link. Which turns all the lightbulbs next to the forum topics white. Then the next time I visit, any topics with recent posts have yellow lightbulbs. I've copied that link onto my Bookmark Bar, so it's easy for me to hit it any time and I've just gotten into the habit of doing that at the tail end of my visits here.

The only "bug" about it is, for some reason, I have to hit it twice for it to really clear all the new post indicators. Miles, perhaps that's something you can look into?

Oh, and I don't mind the blue that's being referred to. but fyi, it's the unvisited links color. i.e.
body bgcolor="#F7F7F7" text="#000002" link="#0000FF" vlink="#666699" alink = "#333366"
Otherwise, no complaints from me. Thank you very much! Oh, and I missed out on the whole dead-front-page kerfluffle as my bookmark drops straight into the forums.
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dvd
Posted 2008-06-27 2:50 AM (#33104 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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oops, we stepped on each other. I'd actually recommend a color other than black for the unvisited links.. too hard to tell what's a link and what isn't.

For example, in my reply above, is the bold part of my quote a link? Ooops, no it isn't. but it looks just like the Sunny Ledges link in your sig unless you mouse-over it.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-27 2:55 AM (#33105 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Thanks DVD, if it was only that simple. There is little to no html available to edit. It's all compiled perl. There are configuration files.

This was a nice first forum software and I saw it was a mistake within the first year. By time I found the other solution I use (MegaBBS) it was two years in. But I have several installs of MegaBBS some running off Access, some of MS SQL.. It's all good.

Now getting from here to there... :)
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-27 2:59 AM (#33106 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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yep I see what you mean.. I'm going back to the blue till I have some time to work out a scheme. There are some things that don't fall into the scheme and are "calculated" by the software. Like the rollover is NOT an option. Go figure.. but then again.. we are talking 5 year old software.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-27 3:09 AM (#33107 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Here's a history lesson..

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ultimate_Bulletin_Board
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dvd
Posted 2008-06-27 3:13 AM (#33108 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Miles, Here is one of my favorite links for web-page friendly color noodling. As you click on colors, it shows them together on the page so you can get a feel for how they would look.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2008-06-27 3:30 AM (#33109 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Yep, that's the one to use.
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-27 3:49 AM (#33110 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Miles, have you looked at phpBB3 yet?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2008-06-27 5:07 AM (#33111 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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What I see from phpBB3 is a forum without a gallery; Miles had mentioned MegaBBS where they show a gallery. Price is right, from $0 to $35.

My wife's website (HistoricalNeedleArts.com) is through GoDaddy with an elementary forum and gallery. Very interested in the discussion between the two (or others) as an alternative to the GoDaddy forum we currently have linked.
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muzza
Posted 2008-06-27 9:00 AM (#33112 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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I just think the other options outweigh the need for a gallery. It's very easy to maintain and there are a lot of options for limited moderators.

And the avatars can be fun.
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Beal
Posted 2008-06-27 10:12 AM (#33113 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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What language are these guys speaking now?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-06-27 10:19 AM (#33114 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......


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Originally posted by Mauvais Beal:
What language are these guys speaking now?
It's all geek to me.
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Waskel
Posted 2008-06-27 10:27 AM (#33115 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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GeekSpeak
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Waskel
Posted 2008-06-27 10:42 AM (#33116 - in reply to #32992)
Subject: Re: Hurt, Insulted and a bit Frustrated......



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Miles, does PD9 offer any migration services?

I wonder if a conversion from Threads to MegaBBS would be easier, I notice UBB has migration scripts from Version 6 to Threads available.
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