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Location: Eaton, Indiana | Too much for me... I'll leave it to the young. This old fart will be gone... At least I can still play...
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | Isn't there some way to have member's messages show up on the site instead of on our e-mail? Even Myspace doesn't intrude on our regular e-mail accounts. If I don't log on to Myspace, I never know if I have a message from any of those 15 year old kids who are the only people who hang out there. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I just turned mine off. It is an option, so now the only emails I get are when I join a group or get invited to a group. Cut it down by a factor of 100!!! |
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Location: SoCal | First of all, I appreciate that we were shown what the social network through Ning could do. I have added it as a link to my wifes website/forum so that her members can host & develop their own mini-sites.
I see the Ning site as valuable.
However, for what attracted me to the OFC, I don't concur with some. In addition to the individual members, what attracted to me to this site was the simplicity of navigation. Clean, defined categories, etc. Gallery is nice but there are a number (including Ning) that offer free or low cost hosting. A simple link to a photo or album is all that is necessary.
So, if this site is eliminated, save my email if you have a question as it will be rare when I have the time to work my way through the new site.
My recommendation, use this as the forum, let members use the other for for their high storage/broadband. |
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Location: SoCal | First of all, I appreciate that we were shown what the social network through Ning could do. I have added it as a link to my wifes website/forum so that her members can host & develop their own mini-sites.
I see the Ning site as valuable.
However, for what attracted me to the OFC, I don't concur with some. In addition to the individual members, what attracted to me to this site was the simplicity of navigation. Clean, defined categories, etc. Gallery is nice but there are a number (including Ning) that offer free or low cost hosting. A simple link to a photo or album is all that is necessary.
So, if this site is eliminated, save my email if you have a question as it will be rare when I have the time to work my way through the new site.
My recommendation, use this as the forum, let members use the other for their high storage/broadband. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
OK, I'm there, but I have to confess I don't like it. There was nothing wrong with the old way. This Myspace-type format seems childish to me. I have to sign up as "friends" with people if I want to see any videos they've posted? I thought we were all friends here...
...But I really wish we could just keep the old site going and forget this "social networking". We ARE Friends! Ain't we?
I am guilty of being Sociable too much and not always talking (typing) about guitars.
So, What happens if I request to be someone's friend and they say "NO"?
My psyche will be scarred for life! :eek: :mad: |
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Location: New South Wales, Australia | I know a lot of people who say that change is good. But am I the only person on the planet using an old computer and an old and slow dial up system.
Maybe I need more patience but after more than several minutes waiting for the page to download I decided to abort the mission.
In saying that...I do hope that whatever happens is successful and that O players around the world can still have a great place to go. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yeah, my eamil is getting jammed with all that "please join us spoo". That should go away when the dust settles but in the mean time... Then you just have to worry about scarring somebody for life with a rejection, Don't worry OMA, I joined up.
There are all these groups and then blogs and probably lots of other stuff I haven't found yet. The nice thing about this site was all the topics are in front of you. You go into a section and you get all the posts listed in Headline fashion, It seems more like trying to read paragraphs in a newspaper with the new layout. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I'd have to say I agree with Tony. Keep this OFC as the real OFC warts and all, and let others do the social networking if they so choose. Just my opinion. I looked around over there and It's all very nice and I really applaud Al and Miles for the effort. The majority of the members will probably love it, I'm just not sure it's for me. Maybe I'm just old school where you don't get 'invited' to be friends, it's just something that happens when people share like interests and attitudes. If the old OFC goes away that's fine. I understand that change will always happen and in the process some move along with it and others are left behind. No problem. Again, this is not a knock on Al and Miles at all, I think they have responded to the wishes of the majority and have done a great job. Maybe I'll figure it out in time and join the 21st century. If not you all know where to reach me.
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Geez, I go away on a 1 week road trip and look what happens. Well, I f@cking hate it! It's too much like MyArse and FaceAche, which I also f@cking hate. That shit is for teenagers and younger.
We're old farts. The simplicity of the OFC, apart from its membership, is what makes it so accessible - it must remain simple. I don't even know how to log in. Am I supposed to join again? You're seriously gonna lose the Ozwattos of the world if this is the route you're gonna take us.
Sorry if I sound pissed off. I just finished a 9 hour drive with 2 very tired kids and a wife with a toothache AND her period. :rolleyes:
Sorry Schroeder. It's just you and Richard in the Aussies group. Aussie Rules? You probably know more about it than me - aerial ping pong! Vegemite? Yuck! |
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Location: south east Michigan | copied from the other board...
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For myself, I don't plan on adding any "friends" to my homepage. It seems rather exclusionary (is that word??). For better or worse, I concider all of you my friends.
However, if one of you blogger / Myspace guys can give me a reason why I should publicly announce my deepest feelings for 100 of you and leave the 5900 others wondering just where I stand, please let me know. Maybe there is some kind of functional purpose to it that I don't understand.
And about the "groups" feature. I think it's a cool feature and might serve a purpose. I just hope it does not breakdown our Band Of Merry (for the most part), Men (also for the most part). A worst case senerio is that we de-evolve into a bunch of splinter factions.
A thought just came to me. The reason I have a wary eye on the new site is that I'm afraid I'm going to miss something. Something educational, something funny, something thought provoking, or some announcement I would want to know about. To bring back the analogy of the banquet hall, the old format had everyone sitting at the same table.
We just don't know what factors make the OFC different that all those other sites we have visited. If we knew what it is we could be careful to not screw it up, but we don't know what it is.
In case you were at another banquet table when I said it before....
I don't mean to sound like a ludite. There are many interesting and useful features with the new format. Let's just be careful not to throw the baby out with the bathwater. ( I hate cliches but that one fits)
Meanwhile, back at the "old" OFC....
I really like the mp3 and video features over there. If this is the only way to get those two cool features it might be worth it... maybe. But I don't need to see a little picture of myself on every one of my posts.
Miles... I am grateful for all the time & effort you are spending on some kind of upgrade. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Slipkid:
To bring back the analogy of the banquet hall, the old format had everyone sitting at the same table. Eggzakery!
The 'new' format is a damn labyrinth. |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | Since we're in a cross posting mood...
There maybe 5900 others on the OFC site, but it seems like only a hundred or so that are active every day. I've invited EVERY member of the new site to be a friend, so that they can view my videos & one song. I did that so the material itself would not get picked up by every other person using the .ning.com website. If you go under the settings, in PRIVACY, you can turn off ALL the email junk. I have yet to receive anything other than the notification that my video has been successfully uploaded. I like the new site, more features and capabilities. Will we lose some moving to this format, probably. Is the core group of members going to find ways to stay in touch, definitely. I can't believe the format of the old board is what separates our OFC family from all the other forums out there. I probably belong to a dozen or so guitar forums...funny thing, I just don't go to them very often, if every. It's just handles and dull posts. I don't even visit the Takamine forum anymore...and most of its members are from here! The PEOPLE here are what make this forum work, not the format... |
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Location: south east Michigan | But I don't need to see a little picture of myself on every one of my posts.
And I don't need to see an artsy-fartsy picture of Schroeder attached to every one of his posts either! :D |
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Location: Tidal Mudflats of Virginia | If nobody wants to see the artsy-fartsy avatars, let's just see if Miles can just turn them all off? |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by Tim in Tidewater:
The PEOPLE here are what make this forum work, not the format... And if you confuse the shit out of them, you'll lose a lot of em.
OvationBook / MyOvation only has 55 members at last count, and its already confusing. And there are already 12 sub groups. What's gonna happen when the membership hits 1000 with splinter groups going off all over the place?
As it is, it's like a CyberPub. We all come into the bar and all our mates are here. The new format will be like a private members club with a small foyer and long corridors with lots of 'meeting rooms', some open, some locked. The magic will be gone.
My fear is that there are enough members that DO like this format and it will stay, to the detriment of the original forum.
Doesn't this shit already exist with MySpace? Why re-invent the wheel?
IF IT AIN'T BROKE, DON'T FIX IT. |
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Location: south east Michigan | Seeming little things like, "How do I accept someones invitation to be a friend" is a problem.
I discovered quite by accident how to edit a post. There is no obvious edit button but if you click on the post itself, you can edit it.
It's the "easy if you know it, hard it your don't" things that can be a problem for both current and future members. |
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Location: SoCal | I've gone over to the new site and signed up, but that's it. I don't have any desire to learn a new system (hey, I'm still using WordPerfect 6.1 for Windows). I guess I'll learn it when this place closes down, but I don't have time in my life to sit and learn a new system. Either that or I'll just post here with the rest of the dinosaurs.
It appears to be patterned on MySpace. I've never had any desire to learn that either. |
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Location: Texas | I say there are pros and cons for each format and I can get used to either one, but it makes no sense to have both.
Pick either one and get rid of the other one.
I think the owners should pick the one they want to moderate and maintain.
Or if they want to have a membership vote let us do that and pick one by a due date. |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
I guess I'll learn it when this place closes down, Well, let's not allow that to happen.
Closing this place down, I mean. Not you learning it.
And here's my bit of cross-posting:
Nothing to do with not being able to do it. I can do it. I choose not to. If this continues, the magic of the OFC will be lost.
I like Brad's analogy of the Banquet Table. My own analogy is that of my local 'CyberPub'. Everyone's there in the bar - all your mates with all their wit and banter. You don't have to go looking for them.
So it's got some bells and whistles. Yoohoo, Yippee! So has MySpace, doesn't it? So use MySpace to put up the MP3's and videos, or YouTube. Why re-invent the wheel if the toys some of us 'need' already exist. Just use the toys you 'need' and link to them from the good old OFC Arms.
Don't take my pub away.
Originally posted by scott lamperd:
Too much for me... I'll leave it to the young. This old fart will be gone... At least I can still play...
scott lamperd BC (Before computers) This is what worries me... It's started already. |
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Location: SoCal | Yup....
Ok, I admit it, I don't terribly want to learn the new board. I'm not a tech person. I'm a people person. In my work, I don't deal in widgets, I deal in what is not fashionably known as "bodies". Very rarely, it's life and death. More commonly, it's solving people problems. But it's people I choose to spend my time with, not computer systems. I have no desire to learn new technology and more importantly, I don't have or want to devote, the time.
Hell, I can't even get the various components of my recording stuff to work on my computer.
If the OFC goes to the new format, then I don't expect to spend much time there. I'll invest in phone calls and email..... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Message from DOCTOR ARTHUR---
Don't hold back Muzza... Tell us what you really think! :eek: :cool:
It took some of y'all 48 hours, but alot of y'all "Freed Your Mind" immediately.
Yes, I'm Old! I don't lie about my age. I am Proud that I am still alive after all the [stuff] I have been through.
I don't try to be a kid. And I do not have, and do not want, a MySpace page.
I will use the new site. And it is kinda neat. But I prefer the simplicity of this site.
Can we switch it back to MS-DOS? |
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Location: NJ | Let me begin by saying that I HATE MySpace/FaceBook.
I have my own page in MySpaceMusic, but it's only got my name/picture, and nothing else. Basically that's because I don't know how to set the rest of it up, there's absolutely NO "Help" there on HOW to to do it, and I will admit that it's VERY HighSchool "clique-ish" . . .
I opted to invest in my own webpage thru Yahoo, as it was more intuitive and lacking the bullshit.
I find the whole "Friends"-thing kind of exclusionary & stupid. You may have noticed that I haven't "invited" any "Friends". I just don't feel that I need to to "pick & choose" amongst the people here (tho, on rare occasions, I'd LIKE to). If there's a way t'do a "Select All", then fine, but that'll put a shitload of stupid little pictures on MyPage that I don't think I need. Any/All "invitations" I've received I've "accepted" for the sake of being "polite".
The simplistic "Forum" that we have here DOES work in that it's easy to see/navigate, but it IS rather limited, and DOES have the propensity of becoming downright "boring".
I honestly DO like the Gallery/Video/Music features on the new system. That alone to me is worth exploring, but the whole "Social Networking"-thing DOES leave me a little cold . . .
Is it possible to keep this as the "Main" OFC Page and then "Link" to the other for those that want to take advantage??
Yes, there ARE independent sites like PhotoBucket, MySpace & YouTube to access all this extraneous stuff . . .
. . . they all "suck", and it leaves the individuals as prey to all of the asswipes that live their lives on those sites.
We would have the luxury of just having to deal with our OWN cadre of asswipes, and the format is ALREADY set-up for our OWN particular use/need.
". . I don't wanna'(fell that I need to) learn new technology . ."
Guess what?? . . like it or not, we're living in a TechnologicalWorld (that changes all the time).
Thusfar, you've mastered e-mail, the Internet, iTunes, digital photography, and (in some cases) digital recording. Was it really all THAT hard??
How the the hell were you able to learn/master the guitar without investing a little time, sweat-equity, and GreyMatter RealEstate??
HERE's an Idea:
How about setting-up a "Group" that actually ACCOMPLISHES something (like "Tutorials") comprised of Members that can actually HELP those that feel like their "in the weeds" and help relieve some of their frustrations??
". . I'm working on a piece-of-shit computer on an antiquated system . ."
I'd like to see how many of these same people update their cars every few years without batting an eye, and will strive to go through all the trouble and expense to order/upgrade to the newest, whiz-bang, bells&whistles pre-amp that Ovation has to offer for their guitar, . . and THEN never plug the f@ckin' thing IN!!
If it does go wholly to the NewSystem, I too will probably be spending less time here, but that'll only be because I can't access any/all of the fetures during the day, and it'll only be a matter of time before the IT Dept. catches the whole "Social Networking"-thing.
I LOVE the Features/HATE the "clique-iness".
I'll leave it to YouGirls t'figure it out, and stand by whatever becomes of it. |
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Location: south east Michigan | I like what you said there, Cliff. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yeah, that's a pretty good summary as I feel about it now.
Thank God the Tak site isn't like that. |
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