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Location: NJ | The neighbor's PotBelly Pig??
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by cliff:
The neighbor's PotBelly Pig??
I said, "Googlin' " not "Ooglin' " |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | looks like Clutch got a little Greta round the mouth... |
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Location: Houston, Texas | I didn't just read that, did I? |
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| Just thought I'd check back with this thread...man, we really opened up a can o' worms with this one...but, there's definitely not a more passionate guitar club on the net, that's for sure.. |
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Location: SoCal | Oh man... Clutch Cargo? The last time I felt this sense of nostalgia about my childhood was when we started discussing Supercar...... |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | dvd you made my day... my week... !!!!! LOL |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Well, hopefully we can entertain the factory a little in return for all the entertainment they give us with their guitars. :cool: |
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Location: SoCal | Woodrow, I just drove thru that freeway intersection yesterday..... the 8 west to the 5 north... |
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Location: Upper Left USA | you mean "I-8" to "I-5"?
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Location: Bluffton, SC | Great. There goes the thread. |
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Location: Atlanta, GA. | VEERING OFF AGAIN!
On spellcheck...
Aoccdrnig to rscheearch at an Elingsh uinervtisy, it deosn't mttaer in waht oredr the ltteers in a wrod are. The olny iprmoent tihng is taht the frist and lsat ltteer is in the rghit pclae.
The rset can be a toatl mses and you can sitll raed it wouthit a porbelm.
Tihs is bauseae we do not raed ervey lteter by itslef, but the wrod as a wlohe.
Pnctuatoin is a wlohe dffiernet tihng!!! |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Been away for 24 hrs,....great posts by N & Joyful N,clear,sober & to the point,and the reference to Thomas Alva Edison,stroke o`genius,simply ( U a man o`electrics N ? What is this thread really about :confused: innovation ..Okay..Once upon a time there was a man..let`s call him Charlie,who played guitar and discovered flaws on them,now He (being a man of zest and resources )decided to overcome those flaws, by building his own,..after many sleepless nights o`tinkering,the OVATION guitar was born,something radically different,yet familiar enough to be of practical use to many others,from then on ,several innovations were introduced,for Charlie saw further,an acoustic guitar that could be amplified,without the inherent problems that other guitars were suffering ( feedback for one )yet retaining their acoustic sound,no small feat indeed !! ;) Improvements were added along the way, too numerous to be mentioned here
However..there is still room for improvements,that can be based upon ,not only from Charlie`s brilliant mind,but also from ,among many other places, this board ,for many of us ,play these "soundmachines" on a regular basis,and just like their creator,discover little quirks,( if only this ,or only that )our comments might be worth listening too,for they would add to further innovation a word I gather,ranks highly with a true GENIUS :) trying to silence the voice of constructive critycism by ..sneering..booing..etc. ,will not stop an inventive mind.I can imagine that Charlie has been told by people who "knew" that "it" could not be done,and that musicians would not be interested,yet He persevered,and the result is being enjoyed by many the world over :p some of those "users" however ,have (small ) wishes ( if only this / that .!.)..I am one o` those ,and know others,who would like ..( anything from difference in colors,to difference in models ) to see our wishes come true,the reasons can be many,
I would like a JUMBO,and in an other post I described one,the reason for me wanting it, is simply that ,when sitting down,I "crouch" over the guitar,a bigger guitar would be more comfortable to do so,I also would like a longer scale,so that fret distance would increase,this would be a Big help for people with "Beefy Hands" ( playing an "A" is a rather crowded afair for my fingers ) now ,I just mentioned some practical things,but there is also the esthetic part,how the guitar looks like can be rather important to the "user" for different reasons,many who purchase one do it exactly because of That ,witness the fact that many buy a copy instead of the original ( it looks so nice,and the sound is probably not that different )that tells how strong the perception of beauty can be,I suppose much more can be said but we all need our beauty sleep , save for alpep & I ( true insomnians ) :) but I do hope that it will be accepted as food for ( constructive ) thought ;)
Thank you for the Audition ;)
(personal note) J N ,you are true to your "nick",your noise is joyful to read :)
(personal note)NORTH you do " coffee gigs" ?
(personal note)TupperWare ,how about making your own label,may I suggest merlot background / gold lettering,saying : TupperWare`s Own beware of the Dog
Later people...
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| Yep. Coffee Gig's at Pub's! and a few local outdoor events/party's. Hope to continue and build into a trio when we can sell it or perhaps a four piece? Yet, all the while, keeping the Duo as a little money maker that is less hassle and still fun. There are a few others in here who do this too. I think at my age, it is as far as I will ever get with playing music "On Stage" and it is enough.
Thanks for the view from across the big pond Vic.
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Location: Chehalis, Washington | Even being an English major, I have forced myself to refuse to make grammatical corrections or observations online - absolutely no point at all, as the normal rules of grammar and punctuation are completely irrelevant anymore.
My only regret is that this phenomenon has spilled over into other aspects of society, like schools, newspapers...
That being said, please return to your reg'lar stuff y'all!
Oh, BTW Woody, have you ever DRIVEN through that mess? I truly feel for you, Paul, if you have to go there regularly. We visit my wife's relatives every year down in El Cajon, and that's just not fun...and I'm from Seattle! :eek: |
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Location: Houston, Texas | Vic, I think that you've touched upon the one big drawback to Ovation guitars that I had never considered before. Up until now, I didn't really think there were any drawbacks, other than alot of ingnorant bias against them.
I guess back in the early days when the bowls were hand laid fiberglass, you would have stood a pretty good chance at convincing Ovation to try a jumbo. The fact that they have the bowls molded now from an outside company kind of limits them as to what new types of bowls they can try.
I'm sure that the development of the contour bowl was pretty cost intensive and something that they wouldn't have attempted if they didn't think that the market would accept it immediately. It does offer several improvements over the other bowls even though it could be considered sort of a compromise.
I'm not sure what sort of market share jumbos have in the overall acoustic guitar market, but my guess would be less than about 20%. When you consider the developmental costs of a jumbo bowl with the additional tooling costs for the different shaped tops, I would think that they would have a really hard time justifying the expense for a limited market.
The injection molded bowls developed for mass production has kind of limited their ability to produce too many different types, unlike a standard wooden box, which would require some tooling costs but nothing on the order of the tooling costs for a new bowl design.
Maybe I'm all wrong on this, but I don't think they have retained the ability to produce hand laid bowls in house for small quantity production of special models. In fact I would be interested in knowing more about how they went about developing the contour bowl. Did they do hand laid fiberglass prototypes? Maybe Al or someone else knows.
I sympathize with you, but I'm sure Ovation realizes they aren't as nimble in creating different designs as they might like to be.
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