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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | I know this has probably been done to death, and I could do a Search, but I'm feeling lazy just now....so... what's the best mic for a guitar/banjo stage mic? ...I know, I know, but sometimes it's just easier to do the mic thing rather than the plug in thing, especially when switching from banjo to guitar to banjo to guitar to banjo ...... | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Tim, Prepare yourself for the onslaught of cracks about how banjos should not only never be mic'ed, but.... | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ....just put all the cracks where they belong, in the crack pot.... | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I don't know if it is the best..probably not, but the fella that provides the sound equip for our little Bluegrass/Old Time jam uses both Shure Sm57 and Beta 58. They sound great and hold up well. He owns a successful pro recording studio and is the engineer, so I assume he knows what he's doing. | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ...Thanks Jeff, I've been looking at the Shures and the AKG C1000s.... ....other advice???? | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | If you must use a mike for live work a small diaphragm condenser mike is generally regarded as the best bet for acoustic guitar. Suitable affordable examples include the AKG C1000s & the Rode NT2, both of which can operate on phantom power or an internal 9volt. My preference would be for the Rode as it's externally-biased whereas the AKG is a back-electret type, though they sound pretty similar. I'm tempted to offer a few banjo gags but I'll resist and simply add that as the banjo is significantly louder & brighter than most acoustic guitars the extended sensitiviity, frequency response & output of condenser mikes becomes less of an issue and consequently a reasonable dynamic mike, such as a Shure Beta57A will work fine. If you need a single mike to cover as many bases as possible go with a condenser. | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Tim, I think he also uses a couple of condenser AKCs. Not sure of the model number, but I know they are kinda high-end. They are silver and have a uniform diameter from one end to the other. I know, highly technical description...I look the AKC up in a catlog to see if I can find the model... | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | Thanks Paul and Jeff, When I play the (gasp) banjo, I step back from the mic I use now unless I really need the boost, but I want to be able to pick up the nuances from my 2001 Redwood as well (close in to the mic)... the condensers seem like the best of both worlds... ...and I am really proud of you all for your astonishing restraint.... ...how many banjo players does it take to change a light bulb...? ...none, they couldn't decide how Earl would have done it! ...there, feel better??? :D :rolleyes: | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Nevermind...Pauls got it covered... | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | "...none, they couldn't decide how Earl would have done it!" Gotta friend who has a banjo in need of some TLC. He is going to give to me as a starter. Good thing I live alone way deep in the woods. (Dueling Banjo tab here) | ||
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| Capo Guy |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 4394 Location: East Tennessee | What do you call 20,000 banjo players at the bottom of the ocean?????? A GOOD START. :D Just kidding. A condenser mic would be best. You can buy a single phantom power supply for around $40-$50. The Shure SM57 is also a good choice. | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ....glub....glub....glub....thanks...glubbbbbbb | ||
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| cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | Tim; You might also might wanna consider the re-issue of the Shure 55's. A combination of modern, stage mic technology that has that old-timey "look" that would compliment your banjo (probably the only "compliment" it'll EVER get! ;-) I've got 3 of the original one's from the 50's/60's. The new ones have contemporary "works" in a retro-looking shell . . . . | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | "...The new ones have contemporary "works" in a retro-looking shell . . . ." Not unlike Clifford himself... | ||
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| cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | I do what I can . . . | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ...RetroCliff, ..how good are the Shure 55s for instruments? My image is tarnished far beyond restoration, even by a retro mic.... I seem to be staring at the AKG C100S for what I need.... | ||
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| cliff |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 14842 Location: NJ | ". . ..how good are the Shure 55s for instruments? . ." You could do better. | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | AKG C1000S?...$149 at 8th ST. Music | ||
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| Stevechapman |
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Joined: April 2003 Posts: 2503 Location: Fayetteville, NC | Tim, Akg C100 is a great choice . I use to own two and they were workhorses. and they should work fine since you aregoing to use them to mike an Instrument or two and$149 is a good price. | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | tanks cuz | ||
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| Paul Templeman |
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Joined: February 2002 Posts: 5750 Location: Scotland | Originally posted by Tim Chapman: Part of the reason the SH55's sound the way they do is because the metal casing has a lot of mass and actually filters out the higher frequencies. So I wouldn't use them on acoustic instruments, except of course the banjo. Anything that will help push a banjo to the back of the mix has to be a good thing....RetroCliff, ..how good are the Shure 55s for instruments? | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | If it would push it off the stage altogether it would be even better. ;) Then the ukes could step forward a little... | ||
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| Tim in Yucaipa |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 2246 Location: Yucaipa, California | ...sigh... ![]() | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | But she doesn't really look THAT happy about it, does she? | ||
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| Jeff W. |
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Joined: November 2003 Posts: 11039 Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I find Banjo players among the best natured folk...often a just knod and smile. ...course that could be cause they can't hear us over the pluckin' | ||
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