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Wuzhizzoner
Posted 2005-04-06 11:03 AM (#155876)
Subject: OT: The Beatles


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I was just thinking of when the Beatles played Hey Jude on David Frost WA-A-A-AY back in 1968, I believe. Anyway, anyone out there remember who played bass guitar on that live version? McCartney was on piano, and in all the pictures I have seen John is playing his Epiphone and George is playing a Fender.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-04-06 11:07 AM (#155877 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles



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IMHO...The Beatles are never off topic.
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TWA
Posted 2005-04-06 11:18 AM (#155878 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles


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Is Paul not playing a pedal bass?
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Waskel
Posted 2005-04-06 11:19 AM (#155879 - in reply to #155876)
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That was actually the same film shown on the Smothers Brothers show (b/w on Frost, color in US) - Frost taped an intro at Twickenham Studios to make it look like it was an exclusive.
They played along with a pre-recorded backing track, it was Paul playing bass...
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TWA
Posted 2005-04-06 11:44 AM (#155880 - in reply to #155876)
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You'd think Ashlee Simpson was first to use backing tracks... :rolleyes: :eek: :rolleyes:
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Jeff
Posted 2005-04-06 12:11 PM (#155881 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles


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They were singing to a backing track, but if memory serves, the Fender George had was a six-string bass.

Jeff
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Waskel
Posted 2005-04-06 12:33 PM (#155882 - in reply to #155876)
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Hmmm.

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cliff
Posted 2005-04-06 12:37 PM (#155883 - in reply to #155876)
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Waskel
Posted 2005-04-06 12:47 PM (#155884 - in reply to #155876)
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All the documentation I can find says Paul played bass, John rhythm, George lead. That looks to me like a geetar he's holding there.

In fact, I can't recall any Beatles song where George is credited with playing bass.
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LeftyThatPlaysRighty
Posted 2005-04-06 12:56 PM (#155885 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles


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I'm not a big beatles fan, but their music has greatly impacted my favorites. (outlaws, skynyrd, etc) Thanks for sharing the photos...they were great!!
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Waskel
Posted 2005-04-06 1:12 PM (#155886 - in reply to #155876)
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Glad to do it. They impacted my style hugely over the last 35 years.
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TWA
Posted 2005-04-06 1:14 PM (#155887 - in reply to #155876)
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That's a 6-string guitar.
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xnoel
Posted 2005-04-06 1:54 PM (#155888 - in reply to #155876)
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Fender Jaguar, isn't it?
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-04-06 2:00 PM (#155889 - in reply to #155876)
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Some information more.

The song was written for John Lennon's son Julian.
The first title was "hey Jules" but Paul was thinking it was better with a "D".
That's why the final title was "Hey Jude" and not "Hey Jules".
The song was recording at the EMI studio on tuesday 07/30/1968.
A second version was recording at the "Trident Studio" on 07/31/1968. George on Electric guitar, Paul on piano, John on rythm guitar and Ringo on tambourine.
On 08/01/1968, another version was made with 40 musicians.
The final version was mixed on 08/01/1968!!!

On the version from "the David Frost Show" (09/04/1968), George is playing on a bass guitar!!!!!!! That's true!!!!
The legend say that George was angry with Paul because Paul refused some of the guitar parts from George on this song.....

The song was filming at the "Twickenham Film Studio" with one of the version of "Revolution". David Frost was here that's why we can believe that this song was specially recording for David's TV Show...

But it's not true!!!

Jérôme :cool:
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-04-06 2:15 PM (#155890 - in reply to #155876)
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My name on this board is "Paulmac"!!!
And I'm the lucky owner of this guitar:



Do you know why??????(joke) :cool:
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-04-06 2:19 PM (#155891 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles



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Originally posted by paulmac:
I'm the lucky owner of this guitar:
Do you know why?
Because you don't have an 1881 Adamas II shallowbowl cutaway to hang on that hook ???
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stephent28
Posted 2005-04-06 2:29 PM (#155892 - in reply to #155876)
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Damn Dave....I was gonna go another way with it but I like yours much much better!
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-04-06 2:32 PM (#155893 - in reply to #155876)
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Thanks Dave for your reply!!!!!

I've seen your beauty for sale on Ebay!!!!
If I was not reasonable and rational, your incredible 1881 should be soon on my wall....

J ;)
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-04-06 3:07 PM (#155894 - in reply to #155876)
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Jerome,
That's the Same Ric model that George played isn't it?Paul has used Ric Basses for years too.
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Bluebird
Posted 2005-04-06 3:54 PM (#155895 - in reply to #155876)
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The guitar George is playing is called a Fender Bass VI with a 30" scale and I think is normally tuned as a baritone.

What's the story on the Rick, Jérôme?

Wayne
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-04-06 3:55 PM (#155896 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles



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This is a 350 Jetglo.

The same guitar as John even if some people can tell me that John's Rickenbacker was a 325 jetglo.
George has played a lot of models like Höfner, Gretch (most of models available in the 60's), Epiphone (Emperor & Casino), Fender Telecaster(Mahogany wood & a black one) & Stratocaster, Gibson SG (on Revolution), Rickenbacker 330 & the first 330/12 especially made for him in 65, and more and more and more...
George is surely one of the greatest guitar player that i've ever heard and my favorite one.
Not a "guitar hero" but you can't imagine the work he has done with the Beatles. He was the friend of the greatest in the world (E.Clapton, C.Atkins, K.Perkins...) and today I miss him...
Paul was playing with his famous Höfner Bass till 1966. But he also played on the first Rickenbacker 4001-S. This legendary bass was given to him in 64 or 65 but this instrument was too heavy for playing on stage. That's why the first time he used his 4001-S was on "Sergeant Pepper".

But we're on the OFC board and not on the Beatles Board...
And I've never seen a picture of the Beatles with an Ovation during the 60's!!!
Paul has received two Slothead in 1976 and there's some pictures of Denny Laine with one of these beauty during the "Wings" period!!
And Paul is also playing on a "Custom Legend" on the "Wings over America" tour.

Jérôme :cool:
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stephent28
Posted 2005-04-06 3:56 PM (#155897 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles



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If the Ric is the same model that George played, then PaulMac wouldn't make sense.....it would need to be GeorgeHar. Must be some other link we are missing here.
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Bluebird
Posted 2005-04-06 4:00 PM (#155898 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles



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Jérôme, as stated above, the Beatles are on-topic on any self-respecting guitar board!
As you probably know, Samova owns the Denny Lane slothead now.

Wayne
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cliff
Posted 2005-04-06 4:04 PM (#155899 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles


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The tele wasn't mahogany, it was solid rosewood, and was custom-built and presented to him by Fender . . .

Bill, didn't you tell me on NewYear's that that one had just recently sold for some in$ane amount? . . .
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Jérôme
Posted 2005-04-06 4:07 PM (#155900 - in reply to #155876)
Subject: Re: OT: The Beatles



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Just a precision on the John's 325.

You probably know the first John's Ric from the late 50's in a natural finish and a bibsby.
This is the same Ric that John was playing on most of the Beatles records in the 60's but he had refinished it in a black color!!!
And he add "buttons" from an old radio...
Very collector's items today.
I'm gonna sell my Ric in the next weeks because i need money to buy my dream. An Adamas I...
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