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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-05-04 8:24 PM (#151955)
Subject: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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I'm thinking of bidding on this;

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33029&item=7...

Hope no one else is interested. If you are let me know. I'm just looking for a small 12 fret guitar I can use on the front porch or take on some nursing home sing-a-longs. Not sure how much to bid, I tend to be a bottom feeder. :D
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-05-04 8:32 PM (#151956 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay


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probably $350 for the condition. mint ones were sold for around $500.

seriuosly, it would be more meaningful for christian to donate $350 to your church or some nursing home than to get an extra guitar that you don't really need.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-05-04 8:47 PM (#151957 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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God loves a cheerful giver. You give and I'll get the guitar. :D

Seriously Thanks for the pricing advice.

I think I'll lurk awhile. Sometimes people get in a bidding frenzy and pay more than the item is worth.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-05-04 8:48 PM (#151958 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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anytime you are looking at headstock damage, prices are lower...yet, looks like main damage is noticeable from back, not front.

depends on whether it is the standard [N] or wide neck [W].

several non-damaged ones went on eBay for at least $750 (one to an overseas buyer).

could easily go for $500-650.

give it a try, good luck.
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noah
Posted 2005-05-04 8:53 PM (#151959 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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Mint around $500... when was this?
During the last feeding frenzy, weren't the mint ones going for more?
Put me down for a mint wide neck for $500.
Is shipping included in the 5 bills?
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-05-04 9:03 PM (#151960 - in reply to #151955)
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bought mine for $450. standingO bought his for around $350.

ebay is a "worldwild" thing w/ lots of newbies.
we could pump up the price here & get it up to $1000 =)
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-05-04 9:05 PM (#151961 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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Lets not. For a little more than that price I'd get the new Adamas 12 fret slothead

I asked the seller, He said it was the standard, (1 11/16") neck. He also said the electronics worked fine.
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noah
Posted 2005-05-04 9:13 PM (#151962 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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Originally posted by Mr. Adamas:
bought mine for $450. standingO bought his for around $350.
how long ago?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-05-04 9:48 PM (#151963 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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I got mine about 3 years ago. I don't think it was as cheap as $350. but I remember it was a pretty good deal. Definately less than $500. I sold it about a year ago for something like $650. I liked it but just found the body was a little too petite. I liked the 000 size body better. Dave
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-05-04 10:22 PM (#151964 - in reply to #151955)
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it's about 2-3 yrs & definitely around $350 (could be $325). i remember it vividly. i almost entered bid for $400 but gave it up. it's my gift to you =)

yeah, major problems for 97 collector -
(1) preamp
(2) petite size or boy-sized guitar. look too sissy for normal guy.

oh, 000 is much better. i love my 00028vs!!
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-05-04 11:11 PM (#151965 - in reply to #151955)
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I checked paypal (you have a good memory). June 7, 2003. $385 + $33 shipping. I also noticed that the following week I bought an Adamas II for $410. boy those were the days. Dave
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John A Brown
Posted 2005-05-18 8:49 PM (#151966 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay


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So, what color is the sky in your world, guys?. You seem seriously out of touch with reality.
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noah
Posted 2005-05-18 9:04 PM (#151967 - in reply to #151955)
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Give them a break... they are still mourning the death of rock-bottom-feeder pricing.
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cruster
Posted 2005-05-18 9:10 PM (#151968 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay


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Originally posted by John A Brown:
So, what color is the sky in your world, guys?. You seem seriously out of touch with reality.
Purple, at the moment, but it's just past twilight. I'd wager that it'll be orangish yellow in the morning when I get up, though.

How about yours?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-05-18 11:15 PM (#151969 - in reply to #151955)
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Originally posted by John A Brown:
You seem seriously out of touch with reality.
Not at all out of touch. Occasionally one stumbles upon a great deal. There have also been numerous times I far overpaid for certain Ovations. It evens out in the end.
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-05-19 12:12 AM (#151970 - in reply to #151955)
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dave, i think someone else are seriously out of touch with reality.

the '97 in this thread was sold for $338

30th anniversary "book elite" was sold for $750 few days ago

TWO new adamas u681t-5 were sold for around $1500 last month
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-05-19 4:53 AM (#151971 - in reply to #151955)
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Those are realy great prices (for the buyer). Ovation continues to be one of the best bargins out there. Dave
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Capo Guy
Posted 2005-05-19 8:21 PM (#151972 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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There are two on ebay right now. Both are asking around $500. They are both the narrow neck. I think if they were the wide neck there would be more action on them.

Question for Mr Adamas; What are the problems with the preamp on this model?
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45flint
Posted 2005-05-19 8:29 PM (#151973 - in reply to #151955)
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I don't think there is a problem with the preamp. I had heard that quite a few were return and repaired for a bad endplug. Most people don't like the touch volume control. It is a novelty and fits the retro parlor look, but it is easy to hit it my mistake and charge the volume. The sound acoustically and electronically I think is fanastic. I think you would be absolutely amazed at the acoustic sound. I love mine.
STeve
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Mr. Adamas
Posted 2005-05-19 9:02 PM (#151974 - in reply to #151955)
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Originally posted by Gospel Guitar Guy:
Question for Mr Adamas; What are the problems with the preamp on this model?
it's quite fragile.

btw it's a boy-sized guitar & may not suit every guy of normal size =)

don't buy it just because someone say it sounds good acoutically. which ovation doesn't sound acoutically?
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45flint
Posted 2005-05-20 12:17 PM (#151975 - in reply to #151955)
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What do you mean "its quite fragle" The guitar the preamp?
Thanks
Steve
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stephent28
Posted 2005-05-20 3:24 PM (#151976 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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I own 2 of them, one narrow and one wide neck.

BS on the "boy-sized" guitar. It is parlor size and very comfortable to play. If it doesn't suit every guy of normal size it must be because the guy isn't really normal and must have overly large hands or ape arms!

I haven't heard or had any problems with the guitar or the preamp. More perpetuated BS. 45flint is correct in that there were some with endpin problems but that is it.

It is a terrific guitar that sounds really nice and sweet, just not very loud.

If you can buy one in mint shape for around $500-600, grab it! Make sure it has the original case.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-05-20 4:03 PM (#151977 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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Just my opinion, but the pre-amp really sucks. Not the "pre-amp" per se, but the whole TS thing. I hated it from day one. No smooth transition in volume, impossible to know what "bar" you were on, easy to touch by mistake, etc. It was a great idea by Ovation and really defined what the "collectors series" is all about - trying new concepts adn taking a risk. The TS just failed to hit the mark. So what. Ask yourself why it never made it into any other model Ovation guitar? The Parlor guitar itself is cool. But do yourself a favor and bypass the TS and go direct out to an outboard Pre, or do what I did and install FD14 preamp.
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noah
Posted 2005-05-21 12:44 AM (#151978 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay



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For those of us who paid attention in Music History Class and everyone else who can use Google...

Ovation did not invent the Parlor Guitar...
What was the whole idea behind a Parlor Guitar?

Acoustically, I find that the 1997 Collector does what a Parlor Guitar is suppose to do and it does it very well. Ovation’s implementation produced an eloquent instrument.
Didn’t the Parlor Guitar originate as an instrument of accompaniment for vocalists. Guitar solos and major volume were not needed in the intimate venue they were designed for.

The TS pre-amp… just listen to StandingO.
If you want to get inventive and like the pre-amp’s set tone shaping, maybe there is a way to hot-wire the volume to 10 and use a good volume pedal. Drop me a note if you succeed.
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45flint
Posted 2005-05-21 7:45 AM (#151979 - in reply to #151955)
Subject: Re: 1997 Collectors on ebay


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Last post was correct this is a parlor guitar and does that extremely well. What is a parlor guitar for? To me I use it when I am pickin more than strumin, when it is a intimate ballad. The guitar has great tone and evenness all the way up the neck. Example: I can pick "Here comes the sun" capoed on the fifth fret and it still just sings. I think "Here comes the sun" on the parlor is more intimate sounding that on a jumbo. I find it one of my most unique guitars, along with my acoustic doubleneck. But you can just get your arms around it. The electronics I think have to be looked at in the context of a parlor guitar. Parlors were really turn of the century. Electronics hanging on this guitar would look out of place. Though the electronics aren't as convenient or versatile as others, they work and are novel. I would never change them.
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