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bert scratchasack
Posted 2005-05-27 5:06 PM (#149532)
Subject: two halves and to hold!!!


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Just joined, great site and delighted to find so many fans of the Ovation.
Can someone please enlighten me?
I`ve just graduated from my Applause to my first Ovation. It is a 2004 Legend 1867 4HFX. My question regards the "solid spruce top". There is a line that appears to indicate that two seperate pieces of wood were used in the construction of the body surface. Is this correct? How can a solid top be made of two halves? I am probably just very naive and you all know the answer I`m sure but I would really appreciate some help. Also any comments on the model of guitar I`ve just purchased would be welcome.
Thanks
Danny (aka Bert)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-05-27 5:12 PM (#149533 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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it is called bookmatching and done for asthetics as well was tone. It gives the top vibrational symmetry. If you were to cut an apple in half and lay the halves cut side up next to each other you would have book matched faces that look almost identical. The same kind of cut is made in the wood that makes your soundboard...

Scratchasack?...Baseball player??
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-27 5:14 PM (#149534 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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It's two pieces of "bookmatched" solid spruce.

The Applause would be laminated thin "layers" of wood (like plywood).

Welcome, Mate!
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 5:24 PM (#149535 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Yeh, right. An American speaking the Queen's English.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-05-27 5:28 PM (#149536 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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I doubt you could find pieces of spruce wide enough to make the full top out of one piece if you wanted to. The original Ovations were 3 pieces because Kaman had spruce 6 inches wide for helicopter blades.
Welcome to the club. Read a bunch of old posts. You'll enjoy your more. But most of all, play it as much as you can.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 5:34 PM (#149537 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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"I doubt you could find pieces of spruce wide enough to make the full top out of one piece if you wanted to"

They'd better. They sold me mine as AAA spruce.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-05-27 5:40 PM (#149538 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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...I'm not gonna tell him
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cliff
Posted 2005-05-27 5:41 PM (#149539 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Don't wanna bust yer bubble, but it'll be two pieces . . . .
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bert scratchasack
Posted 2005-05-27 5:41 PM (#149540 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Wow lads. I only registered an hour ago!! You really are awfully decent chaps (come on boys - that was worse than Dick Van Dyke in "Meeery Poppins"!!!)
Thank you to everyone who replied (Mark, schroeder, Jeff and Cliff), I am grateful and enlightened. I`m now off to sweep some chimneys!!!
PS - Jeff, not baseball me ol` china but music.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 5:41 PM (#149541 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Tell me what? :confused:
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GrilledCheese
Posted 2005-05-27 5:47 PM (#149542 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Originally posted by schroeder:
Tell me what? :confused:
I don't think he is going to tell you. :D
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 5:48 PM (#149543 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Bookmatched 2 piece I'm happy.

6" offcuts I'm not amused.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-05-27 5:48 PM (#149544 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Quote by Bert:,
PS - Jeff, not baseball me ol` china but music.


Fortunately, I'm well versed in Cockney Rhyming Slang, thanks to Ambassador Schroeder.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 5:51 PM (#149545 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Go ahead, blame me....
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GrilledCheese
Posted 2005-05-27 5:52 PM (#149546 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Fortunately, I'm well versed in Cockney Rhyming Slang, thanks to Ambassador Schroeder.
As a good friend of mine would say, "Bloody Southerners". :D
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-05-27 5:56 PM (#149547 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Originally posted by schroeder:
Go ahead, blame me....
I was really looking forward to telling you that your new guitar was going to have a two piece top...

so disappointed.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 5:57 PM (#149548 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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I'm not a southerner by birth and tell your good friend to get stuffed.
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bert scratchasack
Posted 2005-05-27 6:07 PM (#149549 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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very good grilledcheese though a little disapointed you mix with our "northern" friends"!
As for Jeff, brilliant mate. Ambassador schroeder eh? Thats either the old german chancellor or a character from the new star wars film!!!
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 6:10 PM (#149550 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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"Thats either the old german chancellor or a character from the new star wars film!!!"

He's the current German Chancellor.

You'd better be an Arsenal fan........
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Beal
Posted 2005-05-27 6:13 PM (#149551 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!



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This raises an interesting question, Anybody seen a one piece top? On a flat top I mean?
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bert scratchasack
Posted 2005-05-27 6:14 PM (#149552 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Barnet FC. Conference champions and friends of football.

Ps - as a "new-comer" I can`t help but notice that it is ages since anyone mentioned a guitar (just an observation).
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-05-27 6:16 PM (#149553 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Soccer Hooligans!!!! I see much entertainment in the near future...
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 6:19 PM (#149554 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Barnet are dependent on us for their very existence.

Yes I have seen and played a one - piece top. It was pathetic....
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bert scratchasack
Posted 2005-05-27 6:23 PM (#149555 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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Jeff - soccer hooliganism is a problem that only affects our northern clubs (ie, West Ham, Millwall, Portsmouth etc).

I would have thought that one solid piece of wood would give a far better sound than two halves/pieces stuck together. No?
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schroeder
Posted 2005-05-27 6:25 PM (#149556 - in reply to #149532)
Subject: Re: two halves and to hold!!!


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No.
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