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| I tried out half a dozen Ovations in our local store, and fell in love with the Celebrity CC024 shallow bowl with quilted maple finish. I went back again today to have another try before parting with my cash and was surprised at how high the action seemed on this second visit, no real chance for easy string bends like I'm used to on my ancient Ibanez acoustic...
What I want to know is, is that a string type issue. With light strings (011/012) would I be okay for bends and stuff without losing the great tone?
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Lighter strings will definitely effect the tone. |
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| But, where's the compromise point? Tone vs bendability? |
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Location: south east Michigan | I take some heat for using light strings but I'm okay with it. Try a few sets and see what fits best for you. |
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Location: NJ | Take a shim (or two) out from under the saddle when you get it home to lower the action a bit . . . .
. . . now that I've made a that assinine statement, lemme ask . . . .
. . . . do Celebs HAVE shims?? :rolleyes: |
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Location: closely held secret | I know my Ultra did. I would assume Celebs do as well. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | There's a lot to consider. If you are playing plugged it will certainly make less of a difference. If you are playing acoustically it's what is acceptable to your ear. I personally like the power and tone of medium gage (13s), I can't hardly tolerate the sound of lighter strings. Bending the mediums is not difficult for me, but that's because I play nothing else.
You should consider lowering the set-up with the current strings, though that will also effect the tone, because you are softening the break angle of the strings over the saddle.
You should just experiment with finding a balance between tone and playability |
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| "Bending the mediums is not difficult for me, but that's because I play nothing else."
He also kills a bear most days before breakfast.
Start light and go up - and welcome to the club. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Originally posted by schroeder:
He also kills a bear most days before breakfast. Actually, I just wrestle them to the ground until they say, "Uncle" |
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Location: East Tennessee | Celebrity's have shims. Two I believe. I think they are different thickness so check and try removing the thinnest one frist. |
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| How typically American. Not only are your bears the biggest and the meanest they can talk as well. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | ...And they have remarkably good grammer. |
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| Okay...good advice. So, I should go with the CC024 and just choose lighter strings/remove shims to get that movement. Isn't there an issue with taking all the strings off a guitar at once though to make that adjustment. I was always advised not to do that. |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Don't listen to those naysayers. Just do it...everything will be OK. |
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| Okay. So, I'm going to be happy with a CC024 - is that the consensus, they do a lovely black model... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Go for it. Make sure the neck is straight first, push down the first and 14th fret on the same string and the gap around the 6th-7th fret should be only about .005. If it is then pull the shims and lighten the strangs, all at once and play alot and add a verse to the my fingers are sore post. |
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Location: NJ | " . . So, I'm going to be happy with a CC024 - is that the consensus . . ."
You've evidently played it. A couple of times.
Are YOU happy with it??
There's only one "concensus" that MATTERS - Yours.
Personally, I'd search out a USA model (even used), but that's just me. T'me, the Celebrities just don't feel/sound the same, but there are others here who love 'em . . . to each his own.
My advice (fwiw): Go back and spend a considerable amount of time with it. Does the guitar "speak" to you? D'ya think that (after you've yanked a shim) it'll be a natural extension of you??
If so,. . . buy it. If not, . . . walk away.
g'luck. |
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Location: Evansville,IN | Originally posted by cliff:
My advice (fwiw): Go back and spend a considerable amount of time with it. Does the guitar "speak" to you? D'ya think that (after you've yanked a shim) it'll be a natural extension of you??
If so,. . . buy it. If not, . . . walk away.
g'luck. That's exactly what I do. Even though I'm not that experienced of player. If it just doesn't sound and feel right, I just chalk it up to experience, and move on.
I figure I'll find the "right" one. Just takes time. :D |
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| "If so,. . . buy it. If not, . . . walk away."
I've heard this is cliff's attitude to women as well. |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | See recent post in 'For Sale' section -alpep's "u681t..." thread.... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | He might have to *run away* (real fast) from her... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I always thought that for women you were just supposed to rent them?
It's awfully expensive to buy. |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | Bought my wife 18 years ago. Costs me everything. Best purchase I'll ever make. |
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