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eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str

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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-13 1:36 AM (#144399)
Subject: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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This could be a great deal for an outstanding 12-string.

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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-13 6:20 AM (#144400 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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I saw that one too, Tony. But the description of the cracks with no pictures scared me.
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-13 9:14 AM (#144401 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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If the price is right to grab the guitar, the factory can fix the cracks.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-13 9:24 AM (#144402 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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True. I'm just not yet used to the concept of a guitar maker who actually cares about them once they go out the door...

I'll keep my eye on it.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-13 12:05 PM (#144403 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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I have two 1658 Custom Legend slotheads (the a/e version of this.) My first Ovation was this model in dark sunburst.

Ask seller for closeup of finish cracks. Also, details of other damage.

A natural finish is easier to work with than dark sunburst - either at the factory or on your desk. You can either eliminate, mitigate, or at least seal the cracks. A thin sealed crack can be character...it is over 25 years old. StewMac has the fine grit (I use 3,200 to 12,000) and #4 swirl remover. You can even touch up the crack to blend with the other surface area. Can fill with water sol glue or CYA, then sand. Excess CYA comes right off with CYA solvent w/o damaging the finish.

If this scares you, send directly from the seller to the factory...very, very inexpensive for the pros to bring her back to near-new.

These guitars are not cheap so if it goes for a low price, super deal.
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Stephen P
Posted 2005-07-13 12:36 PM (#144404 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str


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For $125, even with the cracks, it'd probably be a good deal.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-13 12:48 PM (#144405 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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Well, fixing the cracks doesn't sound that scary.

Tony, do you think it would be possible to install an older style one-knobber preamp like the FET and p/u in one of these?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-13 7:06 PM (#144406 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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anything is possible but wouldn't it be better to get the 1658 and leave this great ol' lady intact?

I have an acoustic GC - wouldn't consider changing.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-13 11:45 PM (#144407 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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just got a picture from seller...major cracks, email if you want a pic.

would recommend having it sent direct from seller to factory.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 9:48 AM (#144408 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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Originally posted by Tony Calman:
just got a picture from seller...major cracks, email if you want a pic.
yeah, I got it too... ouchie. They can fix that?
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John B
Posted 2005-07-14 11:41 AM (#144409 - in reply to #144399)
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I thought that the bids looked a little low. That would explain it.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 12:03 PM (#144410 - in reply to #144399)
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Looks like a third crack is starting at the bridge, which looks like it could let go any time...
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John B
Posted 2005-07-14 12:37 PM (#144411 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str


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Oh Man, what a mess! I'm not an expert, but it looks like the whole top needs to be replaced. It looks pretty buckled as well as cracked.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-14 12:41 PM (#144412 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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I AM NOT AN EXPERT...although I have been successful...
Sure, this can be fixed...either have it sent direct to factory from seller or do it yourself.

Two choices:

Full top refinish (down to wood) which was about $350-375 for my CL 1658 (a/e version of this) plus factory shipping to me.
Or, have factory seal, sand, and buff for pocket change.
Or (in addition to checking braces), seal, sand and buff using material from Stew/Mac.

Was told (and agree) that natural is easier than dark sunburst - repaired a bad finish crack in dark sunburst that is smooth, hard to see. On this, even if the crack is visible, will look more like the grain.

Here's the deal...if anyone from OFC is going to bid, let me know. These are hard to come by and the best wood-top 12 that I have ever had or played. I wouldn't sell my natural 1658 for less than $1,200. So, if it will go too low, I will get it, send to Kim (sorry Kim, know everyone is busy), full top refinish, then sell it for big bucks. I would easily pay at least $350-400 for it. However, I have two 1658's - would rather someone on the OFC get a fine instrument.

You want an a/e 1658 or a 1659 non slothead - both dark sunburst that I might sell (stacked tone/vol) - suggest that this one be left acoustic.
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-14 12:43 PM (#144413 - in reply to #144399)
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That needs a new top.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 12:58 PM (#144414 - in reply to #144399)
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Ok, Tony, I'm going for it. Thanks for the advice.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-07-14 1:02 PM (#144415 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str


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G'luck Waskel. I was tempted too. Hope you get it.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 1:05 PM (#144416 - in reply to #144399)
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We'll see. I have my financial constraints at the moment.
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-07-14 1:09 PM (#144417 - in reply to #144399)
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I may also be taking a shot at this, will know more tomorrow.
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Jeff
Posted 2005-07-14 1:14 PM (#144418 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str


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Aren't the Custom Legend slothead 12-strings and Glen Campbell 12-strings essentially the same guitar except for the upgraded cosmetics on the CL?

Jeff
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-07-14 2:59 PM (#144419 - in reply to #144399)
Subject: Re: eBay-1158 Custom Legend slothead 12str



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as to playing...appears awful close. not sure if AAA spruce on GC but believe so.

as to appearance - the abalone inlaids, rosette, carved walnut trc & bridge, etc., highlight the CL. and, these items added to the cost, when new or used.

both are great 12's.
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ChatMan
Posted 2005-07-15 9:04 AM (#144420 - in reply to #144399)
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I'm in on this one, but I'm not super committed to it. All interested parties are welcome...
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-15 9:13 AM (#144421 - in reply to #144399)
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I am. Please don't drive it up too far! :)
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stephent28
Posted 2005-07-15 9:15 AM (#144422 - in reply to #144399)
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Dun dun dun dun dun (poor version of the theme from Jaws!) :cool:
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-15 9:17 AM (#144423 - in reply to #144399)
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The mind of T28 works in mysterious ways...
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