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Kamansucksass
Posted 2005-07-14 1:45 PM (#144141)
Subject: Nikki sixx ad... Can you say why?


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Why would a company like Kaman Music let a hack bass (Nikki Sixx) player in one of their ads, let alone let him design a Bass guitar?

Kaman Music, always bottom feeding. No pun intended...

I guess when your career is 20+ years over the only company that will give you any digs in Ovation and Kaman Music., Why... they're cheap and not hip any more.

Sorry Charlie, but the bean counters just knocked your vision down another notch by cutting corners on good ad work and finding up and coming artists that kids today actually care about... what does this ad do for Ovation/ Kaman?
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-07-14 1:51 PM (#144142 - in reply to #144141)
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Welcome. I see that this is your first post. Nice to have you on board. Dave
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Joey Joe
Posted 2005-07-14 1:56 PM (#144143 - in reply to #144141)
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Nice name - tell us how you REALLY feel... Welcome to the board.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-07-14 1:58 PM (#144144 - in reply to #144141)
Subject: Re: Nikki sixx ad... Can you say why?


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You seem to have answered your own question...

Welcome to the board.
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cliff
Posted 2005-07-14 2:03 PM (#144145 - in reply to #144141)
Subject: Re: Nikki sixx ad... Can you say why?


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While I'm sure that Kaman appreciates you wishing them "success" . . . . I think you might have mis-spelled it.
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Joey Joe
Posted 2005-07-14 2:05 PM (#144146 - in reply to #144141)
Subject: Re: Nikki sixx ad... Can you say why?


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Nicely done Cliff.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-07-14 2:40 PM (#144147 - in reply to #144141)
Subject: Re: Nikki sixx ad... Can you say why?


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OK. While it's been discussed here before about Artist endorsements etc. for advertising. I have no problem with them using nikki Sixx or whoever they want for print. As far as I'm concerned as long as Ovation makes print I'm happy they are getting exposure. attacking The company because you disagree with them does'nt help or solve anything. :mad:
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-14 2:55 PM (#144148 - in reply to #144141)
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Nikki Sixx is obviously being used because he is part of that hot property known as Motley Crue. Why they're hot again confuses the hell out of me but open your eyes - the boys are everywhere.

Tommy Lee's Back To School reality show is set to begin and Vince Neil seems to have never left the public eye whether it's for whining about having no career anymore, punching somebody out for no reason or MTV's reality show. And now they're back on tour. A shameless scream for attention? Absolutely but no matter how you look at it - they're back in a big way.

For Kaman to take advantage of that by buying Sixx (cheap) is a stroke of brilliance in my opinion. The Crue definitely has an audience again so why shuldn't Kaman jump on?

Oh, yeah, and good to have you here too. I've noticed a huge shortage of uninformed and misguided foolishness lately.
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John B
Posted 2005-07-14 3:00 PM (#144149 - in reply to #144141)
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Artists that kids care about? Yeah, I agree!

How about a Britney Spears signature model. They can make it look pretty and sound like crap.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 3:20 PM (#144150 - in reply to #144141)
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Originally posted by WeaserP:
Oh, yeah, and good to have you here too. I've noticed a huge shortage of uninformed and misguided foolishness lately.
Ditto. My feelings exactly. Welcome, junior.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-07-14 3:37 PM (#144151 - in reply to #144141)
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You guys complaining about my uninformed and misguided foolishness? I'm almost through caring about what the kids care about. I think my oldest may be getting over Korn and Slipknot. The last time I listened to her music was when I had to move her car and couldn't figure out how to shut off the CD player, where some guy just kept shouting "Star F--kers" at me. I asked her if her boyfriend was going to play that for her at her wedding like I played "Wedding Song" and "Beautiful" for her mom at ours.
I know. When I was a kid I listened to some trash, too. Fortunately, Ovation picked people like Jim Croce then.
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Beal
Posted 2005-07-14 3:47 PM (#144152 - in reply to #144141)
Subject: Re: Nikki sixx ad... Can you say why?



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Hey Kamansuckass, where did you get that att-a-tude? If I were to guess you sound like an unhappy employee. But then again, if you were you'd know that the Beaners (that's slang for accountants, not to be confused with a racial slur) don't call these shots, it's the marketing people. Not that I have an opinion on them but I think perhaps you're being a little generous?
On the factual side I think Nikki has played Hamers for 10-15 years so this isn't new. As far as running an ad with him instead of somebody new, up and coming, etc.... well that's all marketing and on that note,
click.
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-07-14 3:52 PM (#144153 - in reply to #144141)
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Don't misunderstand, Mark, I'm not necessarily agreeing with the use of Sixx as a stand up corporate spokesperson nor am I saying that it's not trash (in fact I've always thought the Crue was garbage). What I am saying is that the Crue does have an undeniable audience and Kaman is reaching that audience through Sixx regardless. If Kaman can reach an audience that is that big and do it at a reasonable cost, why wouldn't they?
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 3:59 PM (#144154 - in reply to #144141)
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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
You guys complaining about my uninformed and misguided foolishness?
Not at all. It's what we love about you. :D
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2005-07-14 4:36 PM (#144155 - in reply to #144141)
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Weaser and Waskel,
I was being sarcastic in print again, even though I know it doesn't come across well. What I really wanted to respond to was Mr. "...sucksass" comment about paying attention to what the kids today really care about. Now, that's important. Body piercing and tattoos. Maybe all O's should come tatooed with nose rings.
I didn't know who Niki Sixx was when I saw the ad and didn't care when I found out. If he was from a different era, I'm glad I missed it.
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Mike O
Posted 2005-07-14 4:56 PM (#144156 - in reply to #144141)
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Cliff,

Thank you for re-affirming what prompted me to join this forum.

LMAOROTF, :D
Mike O
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 5:00 PM (#144157 - in reply to #144141)
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Mark... I know it was sarcasm. So was mine. :D


Or was it irony. I get them confused. No, no, I'm sure it was sarcasm. Irony would have been if your daughter had answered 'yes'.
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Northcountry
Posted 2005-07-14 5:00 PM (#144158 - in reply to #144141)
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Your just not worth the time my foolish friend.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 5:05 PM (#144159 - in reply to #144141)
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north, you're gonna have to be more specific than that.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-07-14 5:07 PM (#144160 - in reply to #144141)
Subject: Re: Nikki sixx ad... Can you say why?


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I was utterly disgusted the first time I clicked on the web page and found Nikki Sixxxxx staring back at me.

Slight over reaction though, don't you think?

And they are making a big deal out of Kaki.

Over here they put WAY more effort and serious competitive pricing into Takamine. It's been mention before (by me, many times) that you guys would not believe what they charge for US Ovations here and there isn't a single full range dealer. And now they've got a distributor (different from the guitar distributor) for Genz Benz I emailed them about an amp, they told me they didn't have one, didn't know if they were going to get one and offered me the one they do have for a higher number of pounds than you pay in dollars LIST in the states. Possibly they ship them over first class on the QEII, at least that would explain the price. All in all I think the marketing (as opposed to the products) sucks.

Anyway, welcome to the board sucksass, can't wait for your next post.
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Northcountry
Posted 2005-07-14 5:09 PM (#144161 - in reply to #144141)
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NO.... not really.

Anyone who joins a group like this to simply try and offend it's users does not deserve even this much atttention.
The worlds full of fools. I used up what time and patience I had for them, from the few I delt with already today.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 5:16 PM (#144162 - in reply to #144141)
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Originally posted by schroeder:
they told me they didn't have one, didn't know if they were going to get one and offered me the one they do have
Huh? Pain killers?
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schroeder
Posted 2005-07-14 5:20 PM (#144163 - in reply to #144141)
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They told me they didn't have the one I was interested in....

I apologise profusely and would not have you blacken the name of prescription drugs on account of my stupidity.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-07-14 5:42 PM (#144164 - in reply to #144141)
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s'ok. I was just confused.
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schroeder
Posted 2005-07-14 5:46 PM (#144165 - in reply to #144141)
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Pain killers?
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