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Ced
Posted 2005-09-03 8:34 PM (#138417)
Subject: My Adamas


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Hello everybody,

This is my first on here. I am the owner of an Adamas W597 made in 2002. I never thought much of it beside that's it the best accoustic/electric that i have ever played.
But a friend of my wife came along and said that it wasn't an ordinary Adamas. That it was special in some way.

Could anybody here tell me if it's true or not, how much it's worth ballpark... ect that kind of stuff.

Thank you very much for you responses.

Ced
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-03 9:22 PM (#138418 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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W597 is a standard model. Maybe yours was custom configured w/ different color or different pre-amp, etc. Try comparing it tot he description and photo of W597 on the adamas website. Dave
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stephent28
Posted 2005-09-04 2:50 AM (#138419 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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Maybe your wife's friend had only seen the original series and not the newer ones.
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Ced
Posted 2005-09-04 12:45 PM (#138420 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Thank you for answering.
I will compare it on the website. But i thinks it's more like Stephent28 said. I think the carbon top is what got him confused. The cross patherns that look like stiches to me.

It is a very nice guitar thaugh.

Thank you

Ced
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2005-09-04 6:02 PM (#138421 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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He's probably used to seeing the unidirectional tops. The Adamas I and II reissues as well as the U681T have them. The W597, Q597 and Melissia Ethridge are done in the "new" CVT cross-woven material. the 1857/1598 are SMT's with the "wood-grain" look. The new Adamas literaute (not the website though) describes the differences in the tops. There is a difference in sound. One is not "better" than another, they each have a unique voice. I just aquired my first CVT. it sounds even better than it looks (if you can believe that).

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stephent28
Posted 2005-09-04 7:05 PM (#138422 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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Your tagline list is growing more awesome by the month! :)
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Hal Jordan
Posted 2005-09-04 10:03 PM (#138423 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Originally posted by mtnbikerfred:
He's probably used to seeing the unidirectional tops. The Adamas I and II reissues as well as the U681T have them. The W597, Q597 and Melissia Ethridge are done in the "new" CVT cross-woven material. the 1857/1598 are SMT's with the "wood-grain" look. The new Adamas literaute (not the website though) describes the differences in the tops. There is a difference in sound. One is not "better" than another, they each have a unique voice. I just aquired my first CVT. it sounds even better than it looks (if you can believe that).

hey man, beautiful guitar. can you describe the tonal difference between that axe and say, a legend? or another higher-end ovation with a wood top? just curious.
again- sweet F-ing axe there man! and are those planetary inlays i see there??? how about some more pics!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Tony Calman
Posted 2005-09-05 12:23 AM (#138424 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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Check out my gallery...

This is the Millennium...about 50-75 made for year 2000.

First of all, this is an Adamas and, IMHO, Adamas guitars have a different voice (and projection) than a wood top.

We can break it into three "voices" - textured top (Adamas I and II), the CVT (which includes the Millennium), and the SMT. All great.

Haven't had an opportunity to play another CVT but this one has a harpsichordic element in its voice. Hard to describe other than comparing it to a slothead 12-str v. standard headstock.

Guess, as W-2 often says, ice cream. Only this one is the full sundae, complete with topping and a cherry on top.

Won't belabor the point but everyone compares guitars against the holy grail (pre-war Martin.) As if the guitar can't be improved. Personally, again IMHO, all three lines of Adamas have improved from the wood box. Acoustic guitarists are a rare group - they want to be "purists". Yet, everything around them, has improved through technology and someone who thought "outside of the box." Course, they want pre-amps, mikes, amps, etc., that no one even imagined in 1900.
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2005-09-05 12:38 AM (#138425 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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I haven't owned or played as many other high-end O's as others, but here's my take. From what I have played (Custom Legend 30th, '05 Collectors, custom Elites, etc), as well as some nice wood boxes, I can say The Adamas are just different. They have a very "Live" top with many well balanced harmonic overtones. I have heard and heard people call them "12 string like", or "harpsichordal". There is allot of sound coming up from these guitars. They just seem to ring forever. The wood tops can have this too. I first heard this on my 1763 when I found the right strings for it. I kept hearing extra notes that I wasn't playing in certain chords. I know it happens with many wood boxes, but not many for under $3K. The funny thing is, my U681T lacks this delicacy compared to other Adamaii. It's tone is more "pure" and centered. Allot more!! I have lived with an Adamas I for awhile and although it'w not my favorite to play, I kept coming back to it for the sound.

I also have some pics in my gallery.
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Ced
Posted 2005-09-06 4:32 PM (#138426 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Wow,
Very nice guitar. I'll see if i can post pictures of my Adamas, humbly.

Now I'm gonna give my two cents about what's been said. I'm new here and i don't to sound like i know everything...etc
cause i don't.

So here it is, i have had pretty much only Ovations Guitare in the last 25 years i've been playing. Some made overseas and some made in USA. And I have to say, that to me, there are only two Ovations that are on league of their own. And to me that includes all brand all years. So of course any Adamas i've payed is a dream come true. And there was one other, that was stolen from me at show (damn backstage passes given away like candies to kids). And that one, i can never find again to buy for some reason. It was a natural wood top, the one without the gloss, from the early 90s, 91 or 92 i think. It was Elite Ovation. Don't remember the serial or anything, but i do remember that this Elite sounded as good if not better than the adamas. Something out of this world. Does anybody has any infos on this one because it would really make me happy to get another one. I've never really got over my loss. LoL!!!!!!

As for the Martin pre war or not, or any other Taylor...etc
Well, again my humble opinion. Beside the fact that they are old, look like you've been playing the guitar for 100 years and that the wood really setled in and dried well, i would still go for an Adamas over those any day. And if you had the Elite i was talking about earlier, to me you don't need anything else, for the Elite will give you what the Adamas can't, to me that is that special wood sound.

Thank you very much and i will tried to post some pics of my Adamas later
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MWoody
Posted 2005-09-06 4:42 PM (#138427 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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Ced,

More clues on your Elite. Probably a 1537.

Any pictures?
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stephent28
Posted 2005-09-06 4:45 PM (#138428 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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That's what I was thinking.....1537, except his date would be off by about 10 years
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Ced
Posted 2005-09-06 7:11 PM (#138429 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Thank you for trying, awesome if i can get enough infos here to be able to buy it back.

So I'm very sure of the date as far as 1992ish.
Also the raw finish on wood (i can remember the smell of the wood every time i opened the case. I ricked SO GOOD!!!!)

One thing i just remembered. The neck had some little wooden triangle things instead of just being plain. I mean where the fret spots are. Remindes me of the one on the early Adamas.

Some now i'm hopeful that someby here can help me out. That would be something if i can find out exactly what model and get it back.

Thank you so much for all your help.

Ced
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Ced
Posted 2005-09-06 7:13 PM (#138430 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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I forgot.

I'll see if there is a picture of it somewhere but i doubt it. It got stolen in 1995. Saddly!!!!
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-06 7:29 PM (#138431 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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was it a stereo pre amp??

did it have two wooden knobs near the bass side waist...

Did you click on my "Opics and look closely at the highly detailed photos?

Well then, git on it man!
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Ced
Posted 2005-09-06 7:38 PM (#138432 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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YES!!!! I found it!!!!

I went in the 4 sale section on this forum and did a search for Elite, and sure enough, there was on ebay a little ago.

Here's the link.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&category=33029&item=7...


Oh my God, I can't beleive it. Now I just got to find a 1993 Elite serial 461005 or around that, you know what i mean. Cedar top, that was the smell.

And it went for $700.00

That guitar sounds incredible. Anybody has one for sale???????

Thak you for helping me. You guys Rooooooooock!!!!!!!

;0)
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Ced
Posted 2005-09-09 1:02 PM (#138433 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Hello,

I finaly took a couple of pictures of my beloved Adamas. I'm looking forward to read your reaction.






It is my favorite guitar.

Thank you very much

Ced
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MWoody
Posted 2005-09-09 1:50 PM (#138434 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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Ced,
It is beautiful!

But we have to work on your choice in straps!
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-09-09 1:55 PM (#138435 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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If only Ovation would make a nice strap.
If only....
If only....
If only.......
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cliff
Posted 2005-09-09 1:56 PM (#138436 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Agreed.
Something in a nice Levy's (w/StrapLocks installed) . . .

NICE CVT!!!!!
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Waskel
Posted 2005-09-09 2:03 PM (#138437 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas



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Kinda takes us back to this thread.
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Ced
Posted 2005-09-09 2:04 PM (#138438 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Hahahahahahaha!!!!!!!!

Thank you very much for the compliment MWoody. Maybe it's because it is my guitar, but i have yet to see another Adamas, excluding the "Beige" (white/blue) of the originals Adamas, that stands out like that. Every time i take it out to play, there's a big "Wow!" coming for everybody.

I think that's why people say it's a special guitar. But there must 1000s of those out there. I'm surprise there's not more people using it in the industry.

I was thinking what a beautiful instrument it would be if Ovation was making the same guitar only with the round back made out of the same material as the top. That would be something.

Now as for the strap. Man, I usualy play everything (electric, accoustic, ukulele) sited, I found years ago that it gets more focus from the audience, my opinion, but here and there I have to play standing. And I pretty much hate every single strap I see. So i fugured might as well not buy any and wait until people give them to me when they have no more use for them. So that's how I get some old, usualy 30 to 40 years old Ace Strap that are beat up and look like this one.

Thank you very much

Ced
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cliff
Posted 2005-09-09 2:34 PM (#138439 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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". . if Ovation was making the same guitar only with the round back made out of the same material as the top . ."


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Ced
Posted 2005-09-09 2:44 PM (#138440 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Wow!!!!! There i go!!!!! Super nice!

Thank you very much for posting the picture.

Ced
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BruDeV
Posted 2005-09-09 8:46 PM (#138441 - in reply to #138417)
Subject: Re: My Adamas


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Is that the one with the hollow graphite neck?
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