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I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)

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BrianT
Posted 2005-09-23 8:45 AM (#136099)
Subject: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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Well, here is what I bought from the proceeds of selling two of my Ovations, a Taylor T5 Thinline standard - spruce:

http://i5.photobucket.com/albums/y169/BKOK_T/DSC00799.jpg
For awhile now I've been trying to find a way to bring out the lead solo's in the duo Brad and I are in. This ought to do the job. I also really like the fact that you can plug it straight into a PA (like at at open mic) and get a pretty decent acoustic sound out of it. Plug it into an electric amp or use some effects and the humbuckings make it almost as good as a Les Paul. Plus it's beautiful and extremely well made, I cant find one flaw on it.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-09-23 8:48 AM (#136100 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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I have spent some time with this.
It is very nice.
The controls are very well placed.
I would like to A/B it with a Hamer Monaco.

And fear not and don't morn for our OFC brother BrianT.
He has currently gone astray but he will be offically back in fold soon enough.
I give it 6 months.
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cliff
Posted 2005-09-23 8:50 AM (#136101 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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I used to LIKE you . . .
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-23 8:52 AM (#136102 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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Nice Brian.

....now, go to your room. No Dinner.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-09-23 8:53 AM (#136103 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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"He seemed like such a quiet, pleasant, reasonable fellow. I can't imagine him doing anything like this."
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-09-23 9:05 AM (#136104 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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The Taylor T5 is a very cool guitar. Give us a full review after you've had it a few months. I'd be interested in your thoughts. Hope it works out for you.

My biggest problem with hybrid guitars is that they'll do several things well, but nothing great. But we'll see......
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-09-23 9:07 AM (#136105 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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Also, in the next week or so, I have to hook up my buddy BrianT with a program to size his photos.
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Waskel
Posted 2005-09-23 9:11 AM (#136106 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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There's a very popular one, that's free and easy to use. In fact, if he's using windows he already has it. It's called "Paint".
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-23 9:17 AM (#136107 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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That's a great guitar. Congratulations. Dave
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-09-23 9:32 AM (#136108 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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I have always used the "export" feature in Adobe Photo-Deluxe. It may be harder but I at least feel like I've accomplished something.

BTW...BrianT and I will be having our first "plugged in" practice with the T5 saturday afternoon at my house. Any here are welcome.
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alpep
Posted 2005-09-23 9:40 AM (#136109 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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one word

VIPER
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Zen
Posted 2005-09-23 9:45 AM (#136110 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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Does it have a round back?
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BrianT
Posted 2005-09-23 9:56 AM (#136111 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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I considered a Viper but I really want to get away from Piezo pickups, they just dont work well into effects. The T5 has a body sensor pickup for acoustic sound and two stacked humbuckings. The 5-way switch then allows you to select various pickup combinations.

I agree that hybrid guitars tend to do neither function well (acoustic or electric). But I think Taylor is breaking down that barrier. With two humbuckings it sounds great as an electric guitar (into an electric amp), plus my effects pedals sound great due to the magnetic pickups. It also sounds surprisingly good as a plugged in acoustic, better than many full-sized acoustic electrics I've heard. I think the steel strings sacrifice a bit of tone, but in my opinion plugging in any acoustic is a compromise in some form and tone will be compromised.

In the end it's really the only guitar I could find (maybe with the exception of the Godins or Variax) that closely matches my needs in a plugged in stage guitar.
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Stevechapman
Posted 2005-09-23 10:03 AM (#136112 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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Brian,
Gee that Taylor sure looks great,...but isn't it supposed to be Blue??? :rolleyes: :D
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WeaserP
Posted 2005-09-23 12:08 PM (#136113 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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It can be...you just have to kick it in the Pings. :eek:
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-23 12:29 PM (#136114 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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Rimshot.
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alpep
Posted 2005-09-23 12:55 PM (#136115 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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a second word for you

Hamer duotone
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2005-09-23 1:00 PM (#136116 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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What's the street price on the Duotone? My guess would be that it's a better guitar than the T5, but probably more expensive.

Of course, there's also the Al Pepiak Signature Viper......
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Jeff W.
Posted 2005-09-23 1:11 PM (#136117 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Of course, there's also the Al Pepiak Signature Viper......
...and other medical oddities
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Thanksforallthefish
Posted 2005-09-23 1:14 PM (#136118 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)
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I have picked up and played the T5 at another of our local stores here(used to be our local Ovation Dealer but dropped the line for some reason) so I won't mention their name.

they have 3 on the rack, a blue fade, a black and a burst, all are very nice... too pricey for my blood when I compare to O's and A's I could get for the same money.

kinda felt like I was cheating on my wife tho or ditching a best friend.

nice guitars.. just not for me.

God Bless,

Glenn
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an4340
Posted 2005-09-23 1:21 PM (#136119 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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Isn't there an offshore duotone and a US one?
The T5 is not my cup of tea. Never liked guitars that tried to do more than one thing. I used to think that the more bells and whisles, the better, but that's no more. The fewer knobs and pickups the better. I'm getting simplier as I get older. Probably, in terms of marketing, Taylor has a winner. Allow me to digress ...
In the old days, when I bought a pair of pants for school, I had a selection of about 3 choices. Now I go into a store and I have a million options, different flys, cuts, fabrics etc. What used to take a moment decide is like trying to buy a car. Look at your cell phones and what they do. Pictures, annoying email, text messages ... I told verizon to turn off those things, just give me a phone!

Similarly, Taylor's doing it with this guitar, frankly it's nuts, but it'll probably be popular.
Ovation should conduct an experiment, and build something similar. Probably would sell great. It wouldn't be for me though.

Oh yeah, on my electric I have only one pickup and use only the volume control.
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Slipkid
Posted 2005-09-23 1:46 PM (#136120 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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I have spent some time with a Variaxe. The phrase "does a lot of things, not many of them well" fits. I do not get the same opinion with the T5. The T5 does not try to be a banjo or a 12 string. Like I said....I'd love to A/B it with a Hamer.
So...whos coming over on Saturday???
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BrianT
Posted 2005-09-23 1:58 PM (#136121 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)


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As far as cost goes, I payed $1850 plus tax, far less than a lot of Adamas and other guitars go for (I did buy the lowest price model). And it really is not that complicated. It has three pickups, a body sensor similar to the Taylor expression system and two humbuckings. It also has volume, bass, treble, and a pickup select switch, same basic controls as a stratocaster.

I am not an expert regarding this guitar, but what makes it different to me is that it has a flat spruce top like an acoustic (unplugged it is fairly loud, much louder than say an archtop or a traditional hollowbody). That and the body sensing pickup give it realistic acoustic tone into a PA, flip the pickup select and bring the humbuckings in and your ready for some electric tone or effects.

For my use, which is in a duo playing mostly open-mic type venues, it seems an ideal fit. My problem with traditional acoustic-electrics is that I could never get a convincing lead tone, lead solos on an acoustic tend to sound plinky to me. Now I am armed for bear.

I personally could not see paying $600-$800 more for a Koa or Maple top and some abalony. I'll tell you more when I've had more time to play it.
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Standingovation
Posted 2005-09-23 2:29 PM (#136122 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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Originally posted by BrianT:
I payed $1850 plus tax, far less than a lot of Adamas and other guitars go for.
And not too much more than a nice ukulele ...
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Beal
Posted 2005-09-23 2:30 PM (#136123 - in reply to #136099)
Subject: Re: I've crossed over to the dark side (WARNING - Taylor Content)



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warm 1% milk.
BUT, If you like it these other opinions don't matter. Enjoy it! New toys are always great.
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