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Showtime_100
Posted 2007-01-21 11:45 AM (#119647)
Subject: What amp set up do you guys use ...


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Location: Virginia
As you all now I'm a NOOB here AND in the world of acoustic guitar.I play and own 2 electrics and I play them through a Behringer GMX 212 but never a acoustic much LESS an Ovation.

Welp ... last week I went and killed 2 birds with one stone and bought a Ovation and MAN I'm am SOOO pleased .

ANYHOO ... I went to my local pawn shop Saturday afternoon before work and bought me a amp to play the Ovation on... a Fender Frontman 15G. Not anything big and I got it for dirt cheap, it does sound nice and I play it through a chorus floor unit which enhances the sound ...

SO ... I was just curious as to what YOU guys use to play your Ovations on and what effects if any do you use ...

Sorry this was so windy but I can get that way at times when I get excited ;)
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Beal
Posted 2007-01-21 12:32 PM (#119648 - in reply to #119647)
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Location: 6 String Ranch
I use a Trace Elliot 35 or the bass acoustic or a G-B Shen Jr or an Ashdown Reso1. Just fiddle with the knobs till it sounds good. Each guitar and room will need something a bit different.
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an4340
Posted 2007-01-21 12:39 PM (#119649 - in reply to #119647)
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For my acoustic, I use a generic 10watt Yamaha keyboard pa.
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Omaha
Posted 2007-01-21 1:15 PM (#119650 - in reply to #119647)
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I play acoustics through either my church's or my band's PA. At church I play without effects. My band gear includes an Alesis Midiverb unit that we use to add a touch of reverb.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-01-21 1:37 PM (#119651 - in reply to #119647)
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I now have a Hughes & Kettner Edition Blue 15-R (fancy name, huh?). The clean channel with reverb is really good. I add bass to the GC057 for straight acoustic. I also use the overdrive to get strange with that one. The others I just play clean, touch of verb.
Previously, I had/still have an Orange Crush 10. Better for the Strat.
I also have a generic 10w AC/DC, that I can take outside.
All cheap (inexpensive) but effective.
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worshipleader
Posted 2007-01-21 2:32 PM (#119652 - in reply to #119647)
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Location: NW NJ
Genz-Benz Shenandoah 85 (precursor to the Shen 100). Sweet! Like Bill said - tweak it till it sounds right.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-01-21 2:36 PM (#119653 - in reply to #119647)
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Yamaha SPX-90 into a Fender BXR sixty. The 15" speaker covers the full acoustic range nicely.

That or, most often, just into whatever PA the place has when I show up.
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Showtime_100
Posted 2007-01-21 2:57 PM (#119654 - in reply to #119647)
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This 15G doesn't sound to awful bad with the chorus ... I also tried my digital delay and it sounds O.K. to me .

I was just wonderin' like I said what other's here were use'n !
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-01-21 3:11 PM (#119655 - in reply to #119647)
Subject: Re: What amp set up do you guys use ...



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Don't worry Show, it's a junky/addict behaviour to try and convert everyone to your way of seeing and doing things... Whatever keeps you playing out is perfectly fine.

The only reason I use the equipment I do for my O's is....it's what I already owned! (plus I get paid more often for bass than anything else.)
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E.Sherman
Posted 2007-01-21 3:14 PM (#119656 - in reply to #119647)
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Location: Chicagoland
Try running your Ovation through an aucostic amp and you will see the sound quality you are missing.
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lanaki
Posted 2007-01-21 3:57 PM (#119657 - in reply to #119647)
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Marshall Acoustic Soloist AS80R for me. It's about 10 years old now and was Marshall's entry into acoustic amplification. I like it alot! It has an XLR input for microphone and a magnetic auxiliary for an electric guitar/drum machine and a transducer channel where i get the sweetest acoustic guitar amplification I've ever heard coming from such a compact unit. Sucker weighs 50 lbs. though!
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-01-21 4:03 PM (#119658 - in reply to #119647)
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I use a Roland AC 60.

Bass at 2 O'Clock,Mid at 11 and treble at 1

Add a little reverb and a touch of Chorus.
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Showtime_100
Posted 2007-01-21 4:04 PM (#119659 - in reply to #119647)
Subject: Re: What amp set up do you guys use ...


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So an acoustic amp will make what I have sound MUCH better then the amp I'm currently use'n ?

Why is that ? What makes an acoustic amp sound better ? I might have to look into gettin' one of those ... MAYBE ;)
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45flint
Posted 2007-01-21 4:13 PM (#119660 - in reply to #119647)
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Location: Wooster, Ohio
Genz Benz Acoustic 200 stereo with two extention speakers. Not small but can play anything and voice is excellent. Enough inputs to do a duo as well.
Steve
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-01-21 4:14 PM (#119661 - in reply to #119647)
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Quick Question-- Do cloth-covered wires (tweed) reduce the noise I get when I kick my wires around?
Answer quick, I'm on my way to the store for other stuff.

Kinda off-topic, but we are talking about amps.
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wilblee
Posted 2007-01-21 4:17 PM (#119662 - in reply to #119647)
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Acoustic amps are voiced for piezo pickups. Electric guitar amps are voiced for magnetic pickups. Acoustic amps are designed (generally) to run clean at high volumes. Most electric amps assume that you're gonna want to overdrive them. So, it's a metter of voicing and cleanliness.

My three favorites in descending order (both price and how much I like 'em) are the Bose PAS (it's what I use now), the Fishman Loudbox performer (it's what i'd be using if I hadn't heard or couldn't afford the Bose) and the Roland AC-60. Even though I have the Bose I'm thinking about getting he Roland, too. They're just so dang portable.
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BruDeV
Posted 2007-01-21 4:44 PM (#119663 - in reply to #119647)
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- Old Man Arthur:

Handling noise is mostly caused by the internal construction of the cable rather than the outside covering. 'Spectraflex' is one brand that has low handling noise.
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an4340
Posted 2007-01-21 5:39 PM (#119664 - in reply to #119647)
Subject: Re: What amp set up do you guys use ...


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Electric amps, are in a sense, part of your instrument, they are "tuned" to take advantage of your magnetic pups.

Acoustic amps, are "tuned" to transfer the sound as is, without coloring. Some like acoustic guitar amps, others like keyboard or bass amps, others like using a PA. It all depends on you needs and how much money you have and how much equipment you want to lug around. You can add effects to warm up the sound.

I go for the less is more approach.

I've seen some four channel PA's that work great for solo act, I think it was a fender 150 watt deal. Seemed very portable, definitely less than 50 lbs. I always look at things as how much I can get on my bike to the gig. That's a bicycle, not a motorcycle.


I've found that at low volumes an electric amp will work, but once you get it above, I don't know, say "5" the amp starts drasticly changing your sound, if not sooner.
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Old Tele man
Posted 2007-01-21 6:01 PM (#119665 - in reply to #119647)
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...I play both my DeArmond-equipped Roundback and EA68 Viper through my Super Reverb with JBL/D110Fs...works fine for chordal jazz.
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Old Applause Owner
Posted 2007-01-21 6:02 PM (#119666 - in reply to #119647)
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an4340 is right....electric amps are voiced to "color" the sound. You can use one, but know that there is some tone in what you are hearing that is from the amp and not your guitar.

I have a Crate Taos 30-watt acoustic amp for my Ovations. Crank in some reverb and chorus, and I'm a happy camper.

Roger
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Paulcc1
Posted 2007-01-21 6:10 PM (#119667 - in reply to #119647)
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I run through a Fender Acoustasonic 30 with a delay, phaser, and a bad monkey for color.
Pauly
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Showtime_100
Posted 2007-01-21 6:32 PM (#119668 - in reply to #119647)
Subject: Re: What amp set up do you guys use ...


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Thanks guys/gals for the explaination ...
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an4340
Posted 2007-01-21 7:57 PM (#119669 - in reply to #119647)
Subject: Re: What amp set up do you guys use ...


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Paul,
what brand are your pedals? I know the Bad Monkey is digitech. I've been looking for something to add some warmth to my acoustic sound and I found the sansamp to be first rate, but I don't have the scratch to buy one now. I was wondering how long you've been using the Bad Monkey (what a name!) and if it added noise to the signal when the other pedals are also on.
I've found that when I've used digitech's distortion, I think it's called the tone driver, in front of a digitech reverb, I get alot of noise, but when I use each alone, the tone is pure. Any thoughts are welcome.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-01-21 8:03 PM (#119670 - in reply to #119647)
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I have a little Epiphone 30 watt acoustic amp. Has a reverb, and that's about it. Nobody listens to me except me, so I don't need much. I just got it because it was $120 new a couple years ago. I haven't seen an Epiphone acoustic amp since.
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Old Tele man
Posted 2007-01-21 9:01 PM (#119671 - in reply to #119647)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:
Quick Question-- Do cloth-covered wires (tweed) reduce the noise I get when I kick my wires around?
Answer quick, I'm on my way to the store for other stuff.

Kinda off-topic, but we are talking about amps.
...what you're describing is the "triboelectic" effect, which is what happens when you "sqeeze" the insulator-material between the outer braid shield (ground) and the inner core (signal). It'll happen with ANY cable, but will be less noticable in cables using higher quality coaxial insulation.

...so, it is NOT the outer material, but rather the inner insulation, that's causing "noise."
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