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lanaki
Posted 2007-03-03 1:14 PM (#112324)
Subject: Mothership or Motherlode?


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okay folks, i have a potential dilemma (in a positive sense :) ) this is probably a poll worthy subject but i'll just keep it simple.

this morning, upon waking up next to my beautiful wife, she smiles and says, "honey, if you had the chance to go to the OFC function in may, or buy that adamas 12 string you've been eyeballing (1688-5 from jenny), or wait a bit longer to save up for another brand new gibson j-200, which would you choose?
i was flabbergasted to say the least and realized then that i had not mentioned to her that a UTE may become available soon. :rolleyes: that, of course, would make the choice even more difficult. she is seriously cookin' something up here or she would not ask me this question.

i imagine few if any of you would recommend the gibson route, but nudge me a little please and help me with my stupor.
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MWoody
Posted 2007-03-03 1:24 PM (#112325 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?



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First step: confession.

Of your plans, your obsession and most important how you absolutely love the way she surprises you with her love and attention.

Then just let her know how you would enjoy either or any part of what she asked.

No solutions!
Find out if she would enjoy 2-3 days of hanging out with a bunch of guitar players. Maybe she needs to see New York while you stay in CT?

No tricks, it's obvious she amazed you and wants to do something for you.

Let her and be blessed...
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Goober
Posted 2007-03-03 1:29 PM (#112326 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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If I told you what I thought was REALLY going on, Al or Miles would put me in the time out chair. LOL!
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stephent28
Posted 2007-03-03 1:44 PM (#112327 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?



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A J-200 is a nice guitar but can be come by quite easily if funds permit. The other guitars are much harder to come by and sometime in the future might be almost impossible to find.

Now between the tour and the guitar...that's a bit tougher. I personally have not been able to attend any of the OFC gatherings (wife's health problems) but I do have some incredible instruments to console me and I get to read about the wonderful times that so many get to have.

Hopefully that helps you.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-03-03 1:48 PM (#112328 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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I would buy the Adamas 12. And start working on her for next years tour. Dave
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schroeder
Posted 2007-03-03 2:21 PM (#112329 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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No J200 is in the same league as a ute. the OFC tour isn't in the same league as a ute.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-03-03 2:44 PM (#112330 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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Put dead strings on your 1537 if you want to mimic the sound of a J200. I'm with Tup. Get the Adamas I 12 and start putting money away for next year's tour.

I've had an Adamas 12 for 11 years, and quite honestly, as much as I enjoy my rebuilt GC 12, nothing, sound wise, can compare with an A 12...
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Waskel
Posted 2007-03-03 4:04 PM (#112331 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?



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Tell her you'd like to buy the A 12 so you can take it to CT and show it to the middle-aged men you met on the internet.
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-03-03 4:39 PM (#112332 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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Can you buy the A12 from Al and tell her you have to run out pick it up?

The Tour is just down the street...(kinda sorta) ;)
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-03-03 5:29 PM (#112333 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?



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We all hope to in your dilemma. :(

I'd go for the UTE.
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Beal
Posted 2007-03-03 5:44 PM (#112334 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?



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Why is she asking?

1688-5
ute
tour
was there a 4th choice?
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-03-03 5:56 PM (#112335 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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Originally posted by cwk2:
Why is she asking?
Ooo, I see where Bill is going...position!

Totaled the family car? The Ute.

An indiscretion with the local lawn boy? The Ute and the Tour.

Very shrewd, William. ;)
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lanaki
Posted 2007-03-03 6:45 PM (#112336 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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thanks guys. i am contemplating...


goober, you've had a private message from me since 2/28 that is still unread. i'm offended ;)
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Joyful Noise
Posted 2007-03-03 7:07 PM (#112337 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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Randy, this is a pre-emptive strike on her part. What she is doing is giving you a choice of those options because she doesn't want you to have all of them. Or maybe more correctly spend money on all of them.

Use this to your advantage. Act extremely pleased that she is allowing you one option, get some good loving in, and shower her with praise and attention. Reward her for her kindness. Try to give her special treatment above and beyond the normal. This will pay off in the long run, allowing you to actually obtain a second option and if you manage it right possibly a third.

Women are devious, you must be devious in dealing with them. And for those women on this board reading this, you know I'm right! :D
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-03-03 7:14 PM (#112338 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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You guys are all amateurs in this. It's obvious that his wife wants new granite counter tops and this is her opening ploy... give him something so he'll say fine when she wants to spend the really big money.....
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-03-03 7:17 PM (#112339 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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The voice of experience. Take notes y'all.
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Styll
Posted 2007-03-03 7:40 PM (#112340 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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OK...here is the perfect plan.

Go to the OFC tour...but invite your wife

The surrounding are has many great places to shop and eat...for both of you.

Mystic Seaport is in drving distance...and is a very cozy place...once again for shopping and eating...the word being shopping for the Lady.

As you shop....give her nice compliments...all that romantic stuff :)
No no...honey if you want that,,,I will but that for you. :)

This way...maybe just maybe...she goes "you know what...why dont you get that guitar"

BAM... :)

and if not...hopefully you both had a great trip together.
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ignimbyte
Posted 2007-03-03 9:08 PM (#112341 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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What MWoody and Styll previously mentioned: go to the OFC Tour with your wife.

My wife went with me to the tour last year, and she learned to appreciate Ovation guitars even more, after witnessing and experiencing all the manual labor that went into making the guitar at the factory.

In your case, you and your wife might enjoy taking a tour of the so-called "city that never sleeps" after the OFC gathering. Although it may not have much bearing on me these days -- but from a tourist's point of view -- it sure is exciting to take casual walks in Central Park, catching a Broadway show and experiencing all the hype at Times Square, seeing a symphony or opera performance at Lincoln Center, or just plain observing the neo counterculture movement at Greenwich Village.

Just a thought ...
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lanaki
Posted 2007-03-04 4:54 AM (#112342 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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i've been out most of the day today. had a performance early on and then spent the remainder with my in-laws. i performed with the 1537 acoustically for the first time and it was a pleasure.
mahalo to all who posted advice/remarks to this thread.

a few thoughts:
i was performing with a j-200 the moment the woman, who is now my wife, and i met. she was quite disappointed when i made a decision to sell it several months ago. as previously mentioned, it was going to need another neck reset at a cost of about $600.00 locally. she has her heart set on me owning another one and continually tells me she has never heard a better sounding guitar. so far, the adamas w597 is certainly no match acoustically to the j-200, although i love plugging it in for gigs, and the 1537 impresses me for its playability and tone, however, shirley and i both agree that it does not match the volume and warmth of the j-200. i have told her that i really need to try an adamas woven top model to make a fair comparison to the j-200. she danced hula last night up at Volcano and was able to hear an adamas II 12 string that one of the musicians from her halau (hula group) plays. it sounded heavenly and orchestral through the pa system. she could sense my excitement all over again about getting an adamas woven top and eventually a 12 stringer. i believe this is what prompted her question this morning.

i've invited her to the tour which she has not yet declined . we'd have to get the previously mentioned in-laws to babysit our youngest daughters and a few weeks after the tour head back to the east coast for shirley's seminar and my daughter katy's graduation. it would cost about as much money for us to both go to the tour as it would to buy the 1688-5 adamas I 12 string.
we really cannot afford either option but we are receiving the benefits of giving birth to our little tax deduction in this year's federal refund.
sheesh! this is turning into a true confessions monologue. think i'll cut and paste it into a letter to oprah...

i am leaning on the option, as has been mentioned, of getting the 12 stringer now, if still available, and saving towards the 2008 tour.
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Goober
Posted 2007-03-04 10:00 AM (#112343 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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Get more sex: J200.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-03-04 10:50 AM (#112344 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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Wow. Direct and to the point. And it makes sense...
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-03-04 2:36 PM (#112345 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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When it comes to travel, NEVER put off until tomorrow what you can do today. You can get a 12-string in Hawaii, but the only place to see where they are built is CT AND as value added you can really comparison test the guitars, decide exactly what you want and probably find out exactly what it will cost.
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cliff
Posted 2007-03-04 2:43 PM (#112346 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?


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I agree w/Miles.
(and for all we know, something could possibly happen and there might not BE an '08Tour . . .)

Carpe Tourem.
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Northcountry
Posted 2007-03-04 2:52 PM (#112347 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?
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Man, I hate to sound like I'd blow off a trip to the factory but I have to tell ya if I actually had to choose between an Adamas guitar or the trip..........Well let me put it this way, I'd like to meet you guy's, and the music, and that great factory tour would be a wonderful memory but to be honest in a month it would be an awful lot nicer to take an Adamas out of it's case and play it than it will be to look through a bunch of photo's of pale white guy's in hula skirts and brightly colored shirts, drinking beer and oogeling each others guitars. Sorry this sounds like fun but no freekin way I'd do it if I had to actually choose. Besides I'll bet you get your share of Hawian shirts where you are now. ?? right??
Enjoy the guitar, you can always talk you wife into the trip later.

Randy
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Slipkid
Posted 2007-03-04 2:56 PM (#112348 - in reply to #112324)
Subject: Re: Mothership or Motherlode?



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And I'll agree with Cliff who agrees with Miles.
Spending a day at the factory will change your entire perspective on Ovations.
Spending time at the HLJ (Hotel Lobby Jam)changes things too. I haven't figured out quite what as of yet.
.
You will never find a better chance to test drive any number of 12 strings. Instead of a vacation, concider it a research expedition.
"Phil-leap and I will take zee zodiac deep in to zee back woter coves in search of zee rare 12 string A-Da-Meese."

My apologies to Jerome and all the other French OFC members for that awful French accent thing.
I beg forgiveness.
And any French Canadians, too.
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