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Location: ranson,wva | i fianly got around to hooking up my valve jr as that i have a few solidbodys now,right now ive got a crappy cab that i built with left over fiberboard. its got a single eminence 12 in it but it sounds like total crap...are they a good speaker? i know the cab is shit but the speaker is new. if any of yous guys have any ideas please do indulge me with your wisdom as im new to playing electric's and amp/cab setups.....thnaks in advance jason |
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Location: ranson,wva | ive also been thinking about some effects pedals and such, when i play my tele i like to have a little reverb,i think a volume pedal would come in handy as well. as for a tuner iev been thinking about a peterson strobo stomp inline pedal tuner....am i on the right track here or did i toaly slice into the rough..lol jason |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | All I know is that manufacturing speaker cabinets is a science as well as an art. The volume of the cabinet has to be right for the speaker and ports cut out to allow for the air movement.
There's more to it than making a rectangular box and cutting a hole for the cone.
Maybe someone here knows where to find the specifications / recipe on the 'net somewhere.
And sorry, but I know stuff-all about effects pedals. If anyone knows of one that gives the effect that I play better than I am, let me know. |
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Location: Taiwan | Eminence currently has a great line of 12" speakers in their Patriot and Red Coat series' - pretty much something for everyone's tastes and well priced. Their website is pretty good and has soundclips (that are useful if you have good headphones.) I'm not sure what you've got.
A wealth of info is available at the fender forum (www.fenderforum.com) - go to the amp mods section most likely. |
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| I have 10" Eminence Delta Demon in my Rock Petros I, it is a sealed cabinet with about 1 cubic foot of open space inside.. when the speaker was brand new it sounded rough... too tight, it took a few days and some thrashing/playing for it to loosen up.. now it sounds great!! make sure you have the polarity right on your leads... and try the combo with a different guitar with different electronics/pickups the valve jr. likes some better than others.
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Are you running a plain valve jr head into the cabinet, or are you running a valve jr combo into the cabinet?
If it's the combo, how does it sound just using the combo's speaker? |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | If it's just the head, how does it sound thru another source?
Are you matching the impedence? |
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Location: PDX | Eminence speakers are excellent. As mentioned above the cabinet makes a BIG difference. It really does need to be engineered to the speaker and power going to it to bring out the full potential and desired sonic ambiance.
You're probably better off getting an old 1x12 cabinet locally and using that with your speaker.
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Location: Buffalo,NY | johnny cash 83 ,
Give this site a try. On the left hand side is a menu where you can choose amps, enclosures , speakers, etc. The people there are vey knowlegeable about cabinets,etc, etc. Just beware that they are very biased towards Weber speakers(which are OK , but they are not the best for all applications). So take the speaker suggestions with a grain of salt; unless they recommend some other brand speaker ! The site is sponsored by Weber.
At the top of the page there are many makers of speaker enclosures. There is even a place to click to have about 5-6 of these makers quote you a price on a cabinet made to the dimensions you want and finished any way you want also. I have had very good luck there.
http://www.webervst.com/vstbbs/bbs.html
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | Now that U`ve been given sound advice,U could maybe tell us more,..Why do U think that U`re system sounds like "crap" ?.What would U like to Achieve ?..when HomeBuilding is involved ,things can get complicated,most often Unpredictable,and it Never Stops !! However,there`s the Satisfaction of "I Made That" ;)
Wich in itself is no small Feat,I`ve been building ValveAmps.,SpeakerCabinets,X-O filters etc. for well over 40 yrs.I would Like to Help U out,but I need additional info.But are U Sure that U want to go there ?..If Playing the Guitar is U`re Passion,then I suggest that U take a Good Hard Look at FENDER Amplification,Bigger Selection than AnyOne Else,and Affordable,and Most of All,U will more than probably Find Something U can Use/WanttoHave,..BUT...If Building it U`reself is U`re Passion,..Drop me a line :)
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I would highly recommend finding an empty guitar cabinet and putting your speaker in it.
Some excellent choices on eBay at this time. |
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Location: ranson,wva | thnaks guys, the cab sounds like crap because i built it in about a hour last week on a rainy day..lol rick, rick,its just the head,ive ran it thru my 2x10 extension cab that ive got my marshal hooked to and it sounded better than the 1x12 cab i built,im gonna get another cab and try that. glenn,my tele's got 2 hot texas speical singles in it. i think the bigst problme with my cab is its got too space in side of it.....im gonna try to find a cab on ebay or at a local pawn shop next week.....as i sad im total ignorant when it comes to this aspect of electric guitars.......jason |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Jason,
You are absolutely on the right track.
Cab
I hope you get a good cab. The only thing I'd keep in mind is that if my amp is rated at say 15, I'd make sure that my speaker is rated for more than 15 watts. Not the max number, but the regular handling number. And that the imedance match. Eminence are the standard replacement speaker. Keep an eye on your connections. Good luck.
Effects
For electric, I've gone thru a mess of them. The best distortion is from the amp. I woundn't bother with a stomp box. The only effect, I'd add, is reverb. The best stomp box reverb for the money (IMHO) is Digitech's Digiverb.
I've used different effects: phasing, flanging, delay, echo, compressers, multi-effects units and octivizers and for electric, the only one I like is reverb. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Rick sez "the only one I like is reverb."
I got 2 od's, a chorus, and a distortion pedal(s).
I only use the chorus (rarely). I use the distortion and the reverb in the amp. [Hughes and Kettner edition blue 15-R] I just got the other stuff for my 10w battery power take-out amp... That I rarely take outside. It rains in Portland.
I may not be the one to comment thoough; it has gotten so that I don't really like my solid-bodies as much lately. I just use the O's. I can do just about anything that I want with them through the amp. And they sound nicer.
And I can still play the Star Spangled Banner with them. |
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Location: ranson,wva | thanks rick,ive got a good volume pedal that i use on my other amps,as for effects the only effect i realy like is a little reverb. ive got a pedal that does vibe and trem but it sounds like shit..lol ive upgraded the tubes to grove tubes and im thinking about doing the mod to add the tone control to the head. i realy realy like the sound of the 5watt JR'. rick, do you think the 1x12 is too much for the head?? ive seen guys drive a 2x12 with one but i think they had hotter tubes in. as for cables i use gorge L'S cables....are they good or should i look in to some thing like monster cables.....thanks jason |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Pedals
It's taken me years to get to the point were simpler is better. Let me add, that I've used trem pedals, though I've never used a roto vibe effect. That would be cool. Anyway, for the time being Amp plus reverb works for me.
Cables
Cables to plug your guitar into the amp? I'm happy with those 20 foot $10.00 musician freinds tweed cables (with the oxygen in the copper?) They stay in my house, except when I take them on vacation, or over to my guitar friends once every 3 months. So since I don't gig with them, they're great! And cheap too! I don't think the problem is with the cables.
Speakers
You know, that's an interesting question, can you underpower your speakers? As far back as I recall, it's been the reverse problem, where people are trying to super distort the speakers. I think the rule is you want speakers that can handle twice (or is it three times?) the rated power of your amp. I always assumed that was so that you get a balance between clean and overdrive. And the effect of tubes ... that is a question for one of the pros here ... or maybe the people at eminence might be helpful? |
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Location: ranson,wva | thanks rick,im gonna get the speaker/cab problme fixed then ill worry about effects.
i got a deal on the george L's at a local shop that closed up. i bought the roll of cable and all the ends they have. im gonna use the georg ls for the pedals,tuner and to run for the pedal board to the head. for the cable that runs from the guitar to the board ive got a couple of 20ft heavy shielded tweed cables that i bough on ebay a while back.......ill call my tube amp guy in wva tonigth and ask him what he thinks about the power/speaker sitition. im gonna take the head to him next week to get the tone mod done to it......jason |
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Location: North Cal. mountains | Is it spelled 'audiophile'? That's your search keyword. Check spelling. |
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Location: ranson,wva | im going to GC today,i called and they have a couple of used empty cabs for sale. plus i just wanna play some new guitars..lol jason |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Gotta try-out what they've got...
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | Jason, how do you like your epi? I've had mine a couple mos and it's a blast. I'm getting all kinds of tone straight out of the box. I picked up a beat up peavy 2x12 cab for $60 they are wired in series for 16ohms. I have a lil' peavey predator suped up with emg ssh with a coil tap.
I just turn up the volume knob to 3 or 4 o'clock, and adjust the tone with the volume knob on the guitar, less for clean, more for crunch and distortion. No pedals required. At this point I'd like to add a selector switch on the cab for 1 spkr (8ohms) and chose between series or parralel for 2 spkrs (4 or 16 ohms) to see how different loads effect the tones. Its a 2x12 cab so I'm stuck with LOUD! but it's a lot of fun...phil |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | Make sure you use SPEAKER cables, guitar cables could blow your amp... |
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Location: ranson,wva | phil, i love my little epi,they had the vlave jr at gc hooked to a 2x12 marshal cab with a tone/boost pedal,vloume pedal and a reverb pedal, i played a tele single coil,tele deluxe,strat with 3 texas speicals and gretsch with bigsby,tv jones pups..btw if i was buying a new semi hollow it would be a gretsch....and a gibson hollow body thru the little guy...i loved the tone from the amp alone but add a little effects and its a blast.....i played the intro to layla on the strat..the knob placement is great.....im gonna look on ebay for a used empty cab and go from there. i was a bit reluctant to belive that it would drive a 2x12 but it does....and the quest goes on.....jason |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | Sounds like you had a GREAT day!!!
I suppose you could drive as many speakers as you want, as long as you end up with 4, 8, or 16 ohm load. btw did tell you this lil' bugger is FUN!!! :cool: |
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Location: Hiram, Georgia | I need to go to an 8 or 10 in. spkr at 45 yrs old everything seems louder than it used to... :eek: |
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