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| Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | Saw a recent show where some guy brought in a '54 Strat. The appraised it at 50 grand...incredible. | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Yesterday, there was a '63 Strat, $30K Starting bid. And it is gone today! And it was chewed-up looking. And it didn't even useta belong to "somebody"? Now there is one for $24K. It's alot prettier, but it's just a strat... | ||
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| ProfessorBB |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I saved an eBay auction listing where a '51 Telecaster sold for almost $51,000. A real bargain considering a 1942 one-owner Martin D-45 sold on the Bay two months later for $255,100. Even a vintage Fender silk banner fetched nearly $1,500. The affluent boomers who grew up with this stuff can't get enough of it. | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | roadshow prices are often very inflated. that makes good tv. | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Yeah, yeah, Jimi played a Strat. I was actually surprised in 1973 when I saw Jimi playing a red Flying V. Marketing, man... | ||
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| Steve |
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Joined: July 2002 Posts: 1900 | Like those high-dollar adds in that Vintage Guitar newspaper... It's ok for collectibles if you have a comprehensive knowledge of the industry. An original 1950 Fender Esquire would be rare. Kind of like a Honus Wagner baseball card... | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | It seems that generally the following is a guideline D-45 $250ish D-28 70-80 D-18 30-40 50's tele 40-80 50's strat 40-80 P90 LP 25-50 57,8,9,60 pauls 250+ | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Me thinks Bill is trying to rationalize a recent purchase ??? | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | The trick is to pick them up before they become collectable. Tony Rice, in 1975 bought Clarance White's old 1935 D-28 for $550. At the time, is was just an old guitar in horrible condition. | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.: Which is why people should be buying Tak75's NOW! The trick is to pick them up before they become collectable. Dave | ||
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| Tupperware |
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Joined: January 2005 Posts: 4903 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by moody, p.i.: Which is why people should be buying Tak75's NOW! The trick is to pick them up before they become collectable. Dave | ||
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| stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | +1 Dave. There can't be many of these guitars still available. | ||
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| moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15682 Location: SoCal | Probably true.... | ||
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| Omaha |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 1126 Location: Omaha, NE | Originally posted by moody, p.i.: Isn't that what we say to our wives? The trick is to pick them up before they become collectable. IMHO, the market for 'collectible' guitars has absolutely nothing to do with the market for guitars. Its a singular thing on its own. $25k for an old Fender? $250k for an old Martin? Insanity. Its all tulip bulbs and beanie babies. The good news is that even as 'collectible' guitars are soaring to insane prices, this has got to be the best time ever to buy playable guitars. For acoustics, brand new $500 will get you a perfectly fantastic instrument. Step up to $2k or $2.5k and you can go to the moon. For electrics, you can get absolutely adequate 'bar cover band' grade units for $300. Step into the $1.5k to $2k range, and you can get stuff that's a thousand times better than any Strat Leo ever made. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | I just follow it. Not rationalizing, I already got the D-18. It was really expensive, but Dave, Bob and Al, you've seen it and it will only be more in the future. It also sounds realllly good. I am seriously thinking that with the Merrill I don't need a D-28 bone except for the investment side. The 53 tele and paul I bought for 1250 and my 57 strat was 2500, all about 30 years ago. And yes, it's a good time to get a Tak EF75. | ||
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| Jkf_Alone |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 82 Location: Michigan | that program has absolutely ruined garage sales, flea markets, junk shops and pawn shops. between that and ebay, everyone thinks there grandpas plywood klunker is the lost holy grail. you used to be able to pick up a playable campfire guitar for $20 then when you were ready to go, send it up blazing the last night (joking). i dont mind the outragous values on TRUE vintage instruments, its just that they dont show the low value items much anymore. | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | At Wm. Temple Thrift Store, they had an old Harmony (Beater). I asked about it. The dude warned me that they wanted $380 for it. It had a 1983 sticker on it, so it is a classic! I informed him that in '83 the thing was worth about $83. And if he fixed the broken tuner, it might be worth that much again. I wanted the case! Some things are Antiques... Some things are just OLD! | ||
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| First Alternate |
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| Joined: May 2005 Posts: 486 Location: North Carolina | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur: Amazing he could do that, since he died in 1970.I was actually surprised in 1973 when I saw Jimi playing a red Flying V. | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Details! Just small details. | ||
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| Jkf_Alone |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 82 Location: Michigan | Hendrix also played a white 3 pickup SG, and i think i saw videos of him with a white flying V, as well as an acoustic 12 string. i know there is no way he could get that humbucker sound on some of his tracks with a strat. I love the vintage instruments , but really (esp in solid body electric) do you get your money's worth in SOUND and PLAYABILITY? It's the same as buying a lexus or cadillac to get you to work. a toyota would get you there fine and just as long, but the luxury car gets you there in style. | ||
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| ignimbyte |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 812 Location: Hicksville, NY | I watch the show every now and then. I've seen its share of Martins and Gibsons valued for big bucks at the show. The Fenders I saw was a 1957 Fender Strat with missing whammy bar which was appraised for about 15-17k by some representative from Mass Street Music. The other one, which I saw a while back was a 1964 (I think) Jazzmaster, which was valued at 4.5k. The appraiser even added that if it were a Strat, it would've been valued at $8600. | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | hendrix had a guild 12 string or at least was filmed playing one. I had a poster of him with an upside down LP when I was a kid. what I often tell people is a student grade guitar made in 1930's is still a student grade guitar now. | ||
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| Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Originally posted by First Alternate: Maybe I didn't make it clear... that was at the movie theater, Midnight movie, Originally posted by Old Man Arthur: Amazing he could do that, since he died in 1970. I was actually surprised in 1973 when I saw Jimi playing a red Flying V. "Isle of Wight Concert" footage. [I was not trying to mislead anyone.] "Oh Lord, please don't let me be misunderstood." | ||
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| Jeff |
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Joined: June 2002 Posts: 863 Location: Central Florida | Originally posted by Old Man Arthur: How true. Remember about 10-15 years ago when you couldn't hardly give away a '70s/CBS era Fender? Nobody wanted them because they were considered the poorest quality guitars that Fender ever produced. Now, dealer's are asking anywhere from $2000-5000 or more for these overnight "vintage classics." I don't lknow if people are actually paying that much for them, but you know the old saying, "There's one born every minute." Some things are Antiques... Some things are just OLD! I personally think a lot of the vintage guitar mystique of today is just "voodoo" that was created years ago by dealers that needed a pitch to help them move old used product. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying that pre-war Martins and '50s Fenders and Gibsons aren't fine guitars, but IMHO, NO guitar is worth what some of these collector's are willing to pay. I suppose as long as those that have it remain willing to fork over the big bucks, who can blame the dealers for asking their exorbitant prices. | ||
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| guitarwannabee |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1487 Location: Michigan | I have Jimi Hendrix's original CS 257 Celebrity Deluxe that he played at Woodstock ( backstage ) , and his ME 1598RB 12 string that he made the actual studio recording of All Along The Watchtower with while he was sitting next to Myself,Eric Clapton & Bob Dylan as we were smoking a joint together re-wrighting the melody.I still have the actual roach from that joint. These items could be for sale .I am very reasonable on the price of them.Any Offers??? TRUST ME ....... GWB | ||
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