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Tupperware
Posted 2007-04-17 10:21 AM (#105050)
Subject: Standingovation At It Again


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Our friend Standingovation has been at it again. Check this out. This is absolutely brillient.

STANDINGOVATION



Pisses me off that someone beat me to the punch. Damn it. Ovation should be giving these away with every guitar for people that poo-poo the round plastic back because the guitar points to the sky when you strap it on.

I tell you, I'm SERIOUSLY gonna put some string-tubes up on eBay. I've been working on some concept drawings for the packaging and I already shot step by step installation photos. Just wait.

Dave
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-17 10:46 AM (#105051 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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SH!T!!!
Why didn't I think of that!!!

That IS a very inventive idea!!
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-04-17 10:47 AM (#105052 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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Now you can experience the awesome tone of a roundback with the playing comfort of a flatback.


Dave,

I thought Tupperware was the "new & improved", more responsible of your alter egos... You should have posted a warning man!! Thankfully I wasn't drinking coffee when I read this, or I might have scalded my self and ruined another keyboard :p :D :p :D
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alpep
Posted 2007-04-17 10:50 AM (#105053 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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what a POS
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Phil Wong
Posted 2007-04-17 10:55 AM (#105054 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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What!! No Slothead or Two Knob version?
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Beal
Posted 2007-04-17 10:58 AM (#105055 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again



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Nice,
When will we get the 75 version?
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an4340
Posted 2007-04-17 10:59 AM (#105056 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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Is that guy wearing pants?
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GuitarHomo
Posted 2007-04-17 11:07 AM (#105057 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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Maybe he's just wearing a grass skirt that a llama ate?
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Grif
Posted 2007-04-17 11:11 AM (#105058 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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Welcome to the OFC Guitar Homo (or is that you Tupperware?)

You've obviously been lurking here for a while.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-04-17 11:36 AM (#105059 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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It ain't me, but certainly looks like something I would have done ...

Dave
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-17 11:48 AM (#105060 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again



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A for creativity and inventiveness . . .
B+ for marketing . . .
A- for presentation . . .
C+ for utility and appeal . . .
A- for per unit profitability . . .
C for revenue potential.
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Steve
Posted 2007-04-17 11:57 AM (#105061 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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'C+' ..looks kind of tacky to me, but I've been playing O's for so long I don't think about stuff like that..
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-04-17 12:04 PM (#105062 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again



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Needs a swinging whammy bar....the logo, I mean.

ProfBB; What do you mean...limited revenue potential? You could sell more than a dozen of them on this site alone!

That kind of marketing plan could get you a 7 million dollar product development loan from the Canadian Government! (If your company is in Quebec or Ontario)
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numbfingers
Posted 2007-04-17 12:07 PM (#105063 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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And a D for the name, not just because it's associated with Dave. Seems to me that "Ovation" is the trademark of some major company that might want to enforce its rights. Get one of these now- it could soon be the famous early production "lawsuit model".

-Steve W.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-17 12:09 PM (#105064 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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". . A- for presentation . . ."


Aw, c'MON!!! . . .
The frowning/smiling girl in the before/after pictures???
:D
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GuitarHomo
Posted 2007-04-17 12:37 PM (#105065 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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Cliff,
Before and after, you mean you just turn them upside down?
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Weaser P
Posted 2007-04-17 12:41 PM (#105066 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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And nobody here's going to come up with a rounded brace for those "other" guitars? Maybe the "contour" brace as well...
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cholloway
Posted 2007-04-17 12:46 PM (#105067 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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It is created from the same material as the back of your Ovation.
Would that be the patented Lycrachord, or just some generic plastic?
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-17 1:00 PM (#105068 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again



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Originally posted by fillhixx:
ProfBB; What do you mean...limited revenue potential? You could sell more than a dozen of them on this site alone!
My thoughts exactly.

The patent search and application fees are up to $1500, the logo design was probably at least another $500, and if attorneys are involved, you can double these costs. That's four grand without any product. Add start-up costs of tooling (at least a cutter and press), then labor, materials, packaging, and other product costs, plus liability protection in the event some infant swallows one of the units or a holder snaps off causing irreparable damage to some unsuspecting user's genitals, I'm guessing about 400 units would need to be sold just to break even with the initial outlay.

O.k., its all theoretical, but assuming everything plays out and he can sell 400 in the first two years and begin turning a profit in year three, how many more potential buyers could there possibly be out there? Now if this thing was disposable so it had to be replaced, that might have better profitability and earn the inventor a B. Or much better yet, design something similar that fits a Strat style guitar, where the potential target market might be, what, 100-fold more than us roundback lovers, then it would be worth an A, except the cost to Fender to use its trademark names would likely push the start-up costs much higher.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-17 1:09 PM (#105069 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again



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Originally posted by cliff:
". . A- for presentation . . ." Aw, c'MON!!! . . . The frowning/smiling girl in the before/after pictures???
:D
My personal values aside, and from a pure marketing perspective, there isn't enough sex appeal to warrant an A. Now if she was wearing a bikini, and there were some close-up photos to show how more precisely how the holder fits the contour of the body, then an A would be in order.

Again, this is new product marketing, not family values.
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an4340
Posted 2007-04-17 2:02 PM (#105070 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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I have to agree with BB, it would be better if she were in a bikini. Though if it were me, the close up photos would be how the guitar fits the contours of the model's body.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-17 2:08 PM (#105071 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again



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Originally posted by an4340:
. . . the close up photos would be how the guitar fits the contours of the model's body.
Precisely.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-17 2:09 PM (#105072 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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That's good marketing for ya'...
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-04-17 4:07 PM (#105073 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again



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Originally posted by ProfessorBB:
My thoughts exactly.....
So it's really true.

Irony is dead in America.
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schroeder
Posted 2007-04-17 4:40 PM (#105074 - in reply to #105050)
Subject: Re: Standingovation At It Again


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They think it's something to do with laundry.
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