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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-18 2:01 AM (#104952)
Subject: oiled neck question.


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i got my adamas back in january and it has the oiled neck. ive waxed it a few times but the more i play it the darker the neck gets,i do put a bit of powder on my palm when i play. will that have any ill effect on the neck? is there something i should be doing oit that im not? just dont wanna mess it up......thanks in advance...jason
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-18 2:27 AM (#104953 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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I hope you get some good answers Jason. It's about time for me to give my 1860's neck a bit of a clean up and I've got no idea where to begin. I've seen a few posts where people talk about steel wool and lemon oil so I'll be watching this with interest.

In 13 years I've only ever given the neck a bit of a wipe but there's a bit of a build up there now.

BTW...what time is it over there right now?
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-18 2:33 AM (#104954 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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2:30am april 18 2007. does your 1860 have a glossed or oiled neck??/ jason
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-18 2:53 AM (#104955 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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Originally posted by Jason_S:
2:30am april 18 2007. does your 1860 have a glossed or oiled neck??/ jason
I've posted some dumb questions in the past week or so which shows my lack of knowledge and your question is gonna make me look even dumber lol.

Glossed or oiled??.....I dunno :confused: I think it's oiled but how do I tell. This is why I haven't been game to do anything to it.

It's nearly 5 o'clock here, Wednesday afternoon.
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-18 3:05 AM (#104956 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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here is a glossed neck

ill try to find a oiled neck for exapmle jason
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-18 3:21 AM (#104957 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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I don't think my neck has ever looked like that so I'm guessing it's oiled.

Don't want to hijack your post Jason so I'll check back in later or maybe post another dumb question re necks :)
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-18 3:35 AM (#104958 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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hgijacking is welcome..lol i prefer the oiled necks over the glossed my self....jason
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-18 3:37 AM (#104959 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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I'll put a couple of pics in my gallery in the next few minutes if you want to have a look. I still don't know how to post photos here.
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-18 3:44 AM (#104960 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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from the pegheag view of your 1860 it looks like a oiled neck....jason
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-18 3:50 AM (#104961 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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I just took a couple of shots of the neck but my camera won't talk to the computer so I'll try again later.

Wow...this is like the Jason and Oz show...I'd better give someone else a chance :D
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-18 3:56 AM (#104962 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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ive got a camera that wont take anything with a glossy finish..ive got a couple of nickle plated resonators that i cant take pics of...now i got a better camera with changable lenses that the damn pc wont communicate with......damn junk!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!....jason
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-18 8:55 AM (#104963 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.



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These are good questions. Regardless of whether the neck is gloss or satin finish, I always thought it was, indeed, sealed and finished. Therefore, no oiling would ever be required to maintain the finish. Maybe a ittle polish to keep it clean, but not something to preserve the wood. Anybody know for sure?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-18 8:59 AM (#104964 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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Somebody in this thread mentioned steel wool and lemon oil. That should be used on the fretboard, not the neck. Wax the neck, if you want (I do that on a couple of guitars with oil finished necks, notably Big Blue and the FD14),but nothing more.

Ovation used to seal and gloss all their necks. Then in the mid/late 80's they went to a satin finish, then finally, it seemed, in the mid 90's to an oiled neck. With the advent of the LX models they went back to glossed necks.
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-04-18 9:03 AM (#104965 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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I think there are three different types: 1) gloss, 2) satin and 3) oiled. The oiled necks look like bare wood. I use Watley's Olde English oil on the necks. Dave
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2007-04-18 9:29 AM (#104966 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.



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Thanks, Tupp. No wonder I'm confused.
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-04-18 10:43 AM (#104967 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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This is why I was asking about wax on another thread. The 47RI and the Millenium both have what I assume to be oiled necks. According to the owners manual:

"The Hand Rubber Urethane Oil Neck:

This neck finish is available on some Ovation models. If your guitar has it, you will notice a natural wood feel on the neck. It requires a higher level of maintenance than a gloss finished neck.
Approximately once a month, if you play daily, you will want to apply a commercially available wax. We recommend...
- Trewax
- Lundmark's Clear Paste Wax
- Butchers Bowling Alley Paste Wax

They are available at most hardware stores."


It was difficult to find any of those waxes, but I ended up with the Bowling Alley wax from an Ace hardware store. None of the big stores had them.

It doesn't mention the other types of necks, so I assume that you would treat those as you treat the finished top (Dunlop 65 or whatever).
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-04-18 10:55 AM (#104968 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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The neck in the pic that Jason posted looks to be a satin neck. With it and the gloss neck, all you need to do is rub them down with a soft clothe after playing. The oiled neck is the only one that needs any maintenance...
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-04-18 11:13 AM (#104969 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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Here's a couple of pics of an oiled neck:



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cliff
Posted 2007-04-18 12:14 PM (#104970 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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Okay, . . let's throw another spanner into the works . . .

The necks on the original SlotHeads were "resin-impregnated" walnut. Is that what was used on the 47RI's???

I've used Butcher's Wax on 54's neck maybe twice(?).

Other than that, I've been using Dun65 the way talentless restaurant cooks use chicken stock . . .

Perhaps I should wax it again before the Anglo/Franco Invasion on my home next month . . .
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-04-18 12:34 PM (#104971 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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Cliff - the Adamas website says that the 47RI neck is "natural satin". I would have to say that I'm more confused than ever.
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cliff
Posted 2007-04-18 12:41 PM (#104972 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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Then, my job is done here . . .
:D
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MWoody
Posted 2007-04-18 12:57 PM (#104973 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.



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50 points for Gryffendor!

Where's an authority when you need one?
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Jason_S
Posted 2007-04-18 3:06 PM (#104974 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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paul,the neck i posted is a 1983 1567 legend ssb. that one had a glossed neck. on that one i scrubed the hell out of it with steel wool becuase it felt sticky to me....after playing it a few weeks it gets shiny again. but i no longer have that guitar...thanks for all the answers guys...jason
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noah
Posted 2007-04-18 4:09 PM (#104975 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.



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I find that, "Less is More".

I prefer satin and oiled necks. After playing, I wipe down the guitar using a little Dunlop 65 Cleaner/Polish. When I restring, I sparingly use bore oil on any wood that is not glossed... necks, fretboards, bridges.

A sparingly applied coat of Butcher's wax on gloss finishes leaves a nice renewable slippery protective layer.
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ozwatto
Posted 2007-04-18 5:31 PM (#104976 - in reply to #104952)
Subject: Re: oiled neck question.


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I think I can confirm that I have an oiled neck. I've never done anything to it apart from wipe it down. Should I do a bit more serious maintenance on it occasionally?

The guitar is 13 years old and the neck still feels good to me.
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