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dobro
Posted 2007-05-10 4:14 PM (#100851)
Subject: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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Rapper Akon illustrates the essence of his art: how the "artist" relates to the "fan". A thing of beauty is a joy forever! Who needs guitars or "tonality"?

http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=f20_1177010149
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-10 4:50 PM (#100852 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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Yeah, that's real nice.....
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lanaki
Posted 2007-05-10 4:52 PM (#100853 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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what a sad commentary on the state of human affairs.
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-10 5:23 PM (#100854 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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Who's that guy think he is Iggy? Morrison? Mick?

Some guys have no respect for tradition...dry hump is no way to treat a groupy!
:cool:
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tragocaster
Posted 2007-05-10 6:03 PM (#100855 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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She all of 14, and he can get away with THAT?

It's sad. What's sadder is that I know people that would think that's cool, and would love it. The same people that say that I need to get with the modern times, and stop playing that old fogies music.

We're truly a hip hop nation, whether you like it or not.
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giuseppe
Posted 2007-05-10 6:19 PM (#100856 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!
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Very SAD!
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mtnbikerfred
Posted 2007-05-10 6:28 PM (#100857 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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:mad: Creep!! :mad:
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Patch
Posted 2007-05-10 7:39 PM (#100858 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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By almost every states statutes and definitions, that video (if indeed the girl was 14) would stand up in court as child sexual molestation. :mad: :mad: :mad:
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CrimsonLake
Posted 2007-05-10 7:44 PM (#100859 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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Nasty - Patch is right - someone should go after that guy.
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Grif
Posted 2007-05-10 8:06 PM (#100860 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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Problem is, that would give the scumbag exactly what he is after, more free publicity!

We're living through a time where your fame is increased by how many laws you can break. (Paris Hilton, Martha Stewart, any number of gangster rappers)
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-05-10 8:46 PM (#100861 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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The end is near.
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Patch
Posted 2007-05-10 8:52 PM (#100862 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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I noticed that one of the key words for it was "Trinidad." If this was in another country, there's not much anyone can do. If someone can verify it happened in the US, I'd love to know where and when. I'm pretty sure someone at the local child abuse prevention office would find a use for this link that was even more indignant than our posts.
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alpep
Posted 2007-05-10 9:10 PM (#100863 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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the fans killed at chicken at an alice cooper show
iggy pop would cut himself on stage
morrison alledgedly exposed himself in miami
janis drank from a bottle of southern comfort
bird coltrans miles etc were all heroin addicts
ansley dunbar alledgedly liked young girls
the mudshark incident

how many bands passed around joints on stage.

I am not saying that this behavior is correct I am just noticing that it is not the only type of outrageous behavior.

maybe we just target it more because it is rap and we don't like the music?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-10 9:30 PM (#100864 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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People (and I use that term loosely) will always try to "push the envelope."
They go outta their way to numb themselves to their own actions.
To avoid any semblance of Common Decency.

Then they get all bent outta shape when they don't get the Proper Respect!

[Yeah Al... It also annoys me cuz Rap Sux!
But it wouldn't happen at a Pink Floyd concert.]
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Beal
Posted 2007-05-10 9:33 PM (#100865 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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Music is like candy, first get rid of the rapper.
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tragocaster
Posted 2007-05-10 11:30 PM (#100866 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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He says he's sorry now...

He's sorry alright....

He\'s sorry
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Waskel
Posted 2007-05-10 11:42 PM (#100867 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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"He also says his people tried to ensure that the club did not admit anyone under 18, but "that standard was not met."

Oh, good. He's got standards... :rolleyes:
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-05-11 12:12 AM (#100868 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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FTBT
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fillhixx
Posted 2007-05-11 12:22 AM (#100869 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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I'm sorry, I have trouble with a bunch of aging rockers (which many of us are/were) being offended by the actions of a performer on stage.

Given the excesses of our own idols in their day {if vid phones had been around then, how many would there be of Mick Jagger screwing groupies (even as young as 14!) on his way off stage?}with Sex, Drugs, and Rock 'n' Roll and an ethos of "Live fast, die young, leave a beautiful corpse" how can we (the royal we) get self-righteous enough to criticize the excesses of the next (plus 2) generation?

Oh. Wait. It's coming to me.........we got old.

And hypocritical.

Well, awright then. :rolleyes:


It was the best of times
It was the worst of times
It was just the times.
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dobro
Posted 2007-05-11 12:49 AM (#100870 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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fillhixx is right! Absolutely. My reason for posting is the MUSIC ("music"?): I think 30 years of hip-hop is enough. 30 years of a genre with three themes: "I f***k you", "I kill you", "I'm superior to you (rhyme/money/chicks)". I would be willing to endure Akon or any other mutant if hehad a "Gimme Shelter" or "When the Music's Over" or "Close to the Edge" or "Birds of Fire" or "Fun House" or "Pearl" or... or ... Gotta go take my Geritol.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-11 1:22 AM (#100871 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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50 is the new 21 don'cha know!

I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! I'm NOT Old! :p
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lanaki
Posted 2007-05-11 1:25 AM (#100872 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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then why call yourself "old man arthur"?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-05-11 1:42 AM (#100873 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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I'm Not Old, Dammit!

Hey, when I was young(er), Disco Suct! Now Rap Sux.

And I will still agree with Al and Fillhixx...
The fact that I don't like Rap has alot to do with it.

Iggy Stooge rolling around in broken glass and inventing Stage-Diving was cool. Alice Cooper hanging himself was cool. The concept that Keith Richards could even stand on stage was cool. Ozzy is just an idiot, and he says that he never ate a doves head.

I'll admit it... Unless they are rapping about finding Jesus, or at least getting an education, anything the rappers do annoys me. :mad:
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Patch
Posted 2007-05-11 10:08 AM (#100874 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!



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As bad as most rap is musically, I still think (OK...hope) most hip-hop performers would draw the line at dry-humping youthful strangers on stage!

The sad part is that this child is now forced to live with the consequences of her youthfully misplaced idolization. (And I don't just mean a video that has been widely circulated on the internet.) I've intervened with too many such individuals (male and female) who were suddenly shoved into such a perverted, full-blown perspective of adult sexuality. The truly tragic part is, despite the video, this event is still reasonably anonymous; which puts the child's family in the position of rectifying their daughter's experience in a healthful and recuperative fashion. Surprisingly, there are a lot of good, capable parents out there. I sure hope this girl's folks are up to the challenge.

Frankly, this child and her family need prayers as much as anyone else that this forum has so ably, and nobly, supported.
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Brian T
Posted 2007-05-11 10:41 AM (#100875 - in reply to #100851)
Subject: Re: beauty & artistry of RAP!


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If there is a bright side to such a incident, it might be that the unfortunate girl, her friends, or other on-lookers might just realize what pigs some of these rappers are.

Also the girl should be grateful that humiliation and some rough handling was all that she suffered. Imagine if she had been foolish enough to accept an invitaion back stage or to a party after the show. Don't get me wrong, this guy is still a pig, but kids (especially girls) need to learn that the world is full of pigs.

As other's have commented, some of the rock stars from earlier generations were complete pigs as well, but often kids will not believe this until they see it with there own eyes.

I really hope the girl wasnt overly traumatized, but I'll bet that she wont be climbing up on stage at concerts any time soon, also hopefully her tastes for rap music will be somewhat diminished.
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