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alberto
Posted 2007-07-13 12:22 PM (#90462)
Subject: Adamas Q



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Hi. I've been spending a lot of time trying to find information about the original, full carbon 2004 Adamas Q, but I cannot find anything more than the image displayed on the Adamas official site. I know it eventually gave life to the Q 181, but I wander why the origina full carbon structure never saw life. Anybody has any information?
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-07-13 2:07 PM (#90463 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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It just never got legs...
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-13 2:19 PM (#90464 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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Saw one hanging in the repair shop racks at the factory. It was black with red sparkles and I thought it looked pretty cool. No idea what they sound like, though.
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-13 4:42 PM (#90465 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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I know where #8 and 10 are but I don't think there were any past #12. It never made it to production. More rare than a PF22.
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Jérôme
Posted 2007-07-13 4:52 PM (#90466 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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Some info in THIS CATALOG.

A very special instrument!!

J :)
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45flint
Posted 2007-07-13 6:32 PM (#90467 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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Why didn't it make it? A total graphite guitar is an obvious evolution and others have done it?
Steve
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BruDeV
Posted 2007-07-13 6:39 PM (#90468 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-13 6:47 PM (#90469 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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lots of reasons and that's only one.
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-07-13 6:52 PM (#90470 - in reply to #90462)
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Would be kinda cool to see it available from Adamas Custom Shop....
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Capo Guy
Posted 2007-07-13 7:54 PM (#90471 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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I saw Glen Campbell play one 8 or 9 years ago.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-07-13 8:27 PM (#90472 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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It's only a guess - but I doubt they sounded half as good as they looked. The ones that played it (and own it), please teach me, if I am wrong.

Anyway, to own one of the Q's - I would immediately get rid of one or two of my best sounding O's or A's for a Q. These guitars are way too cool!

By the way - I never did a search for these. Bill, did they all stay in the USA?

Kurt
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2007-07-13 8:46 PM (#90473 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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There was a list price for them: 5.999$

Did one of them get sold?

You made me nervous,
Kurt
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Tupperware
Posted 2007-07-14 8:14 AM (#90474 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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I believe someone at Ovation told me that the motivation to building this guitar was the "Q" ...

NAMM DISPLAY

Dave
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Jeff W.
Posted 2007-07-14 8:23 AM (#90475 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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That thing is sexy.
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-14 8:34 AM (#90476 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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I don't remember if any were sold. DJ has one, #12 I think, and I have 8 and 10.
It would have been pretty expensive. So What?
Marketing was afraid to ask a really high price. Chickens!
The guitar was only 90% there and needed some final refinements that never got done. OOPS!
What was finally done was a big compromise down the middle that missed just about all the major cool points. And those wavey sound holes are like something you'd see on MOB (My Other Bitch)

They sounded more wooden that any box I've heard. Chalk another one up in the shuddadoneit column.
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45flint
Posted 2007-07-14 9:10 AM (#90477 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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Can't really understand this one. Does the Ovation fiber glass body go on for another 20 years? Obviously graphite composite or something like it is the future. Other smaller companies have pulled it off but don't know how profitable they are? Is the composite manufacturing process so expensive, difficult, that it is hard to get it to a market price that makes sense. Rumors were that CA almost went bankrupt retooling and their price point right now may be at a marketing point of pain. The Q design still looks superior to anything out there.
Steve
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cruster
Posted 2007-07-14 9:56 AM (#90478 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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I wonder how 'the market' would react, though, if Adamas moved into full carbon-fiber, considering that CA and Rainsong (and even Steinberger among others?) have been doing full-CF/graphite guitars for a while now. Almost like the original innovator playing catchup with the competition.

Still, that Q with the red sparklies in the repair shop looked awfully sharp. I'd consider one, but the price would have to be right and it'd have to sound better (or at least different, but just as good) as the A2 2-knobber I have now.
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cliff
Posted 2007-07-14 10:19 AM (#90479 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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". . sounded more wooden that any box I've heard . ."

amen.

. . and it's such a DAMN "sexy" guitar to play t'boot . . .

Q10 is a masterpiece!
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edensharvest
Posted 2007-07-14 11:26 PM (#90480 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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It would be cool to see the Custom Shop offer two different setups; one being the more traditional texture tops & epaulettes, and the other along the lines of that NAMM model...something completely cutting edge both in technology and design.

I don't know for sure, but I'd have a hard time imagining that it couldn't be made profitable in a custom-shop situation. After all, has anyone looked at all the SERIOUSLY overpriced reissues that the Fender custom shop has turned out lately?
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stephent28
Posted 2007-07-15 12:53 AM (#90481 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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Originally posted by cliff:
". . sounded more wooden that any box I've heard . ."

amen.

. . and it's such a DAMN "sexy" guitar to play t'boot . . .

Q10 is a masterpiece!
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With the success of the OFC and Koa guitars, maybe this could be a future Lost Art/Vintage special edition. I know I would certainly consider buying one.
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45flint
Posted 2007-07-15 1:45 PM (#90482 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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Is anyone else picking up on the irony of all the hoopla given the graphite case in the other post this week. Just think what it would do if they put it in the guitar.
Steve
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-15 8:19 PM (#90483 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q



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Keep in mind these did have wood braces, fingerboard and bridge. Oh yeah, the buttons on the tuners too. Maybe we could get those in grafite too?

The Q guitars I am refering to were the ones with the Dodge grill sound holes, not the My Other Bitch ones. I'm not sure how many of those were made, they were after my time.
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edensharvest
Posted 2007-07-16 11:24 AM (#90484 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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Should I assume that the Q you are referring to is something different than these?


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moody, p.i.
Posted 2007-07-16 11:28 AM (#90485 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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Yup...
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cliff
Posted 2007-07-16 11:30 AM (#90486 - in reply to #90462)
Subject: Re: Adamas Q


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