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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-30 2:21 AM (#88217)
Subject: Tremolo or Tremelo


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I have always thought it was Tremelo, but it seems that's NOT in the dictionary that way, at least not in Merrian-Webster Online . I then searched Google for Tremelo and Tremolo to find out I am certainly not the only one who apparently can't spell.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-07-30 2:26 AM (#88218 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo



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My computer spell-check sez that it is "Tremolo"...
But I always called it a "Whammy-Bar!" :p
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-30 2:32 AM (#88219 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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That's what got me going. The spell-check grabbed it. Apparently Tremolo is the proper way, but there are books, businesses and websites that are spelling it Tremelo.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2007-07-30 2:39 AM (#88220 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo



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It looks funny to me, too.
It's just a computer, probably programed in Bhopal, India...
Just hit the Add To Dictionary button.

Apparently alot of folks' computers don't have spell-check anyway!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2007-07-30 6:52 AM (#88221 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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potato potaato.... Oh, sorry, potatoe (as per one of our vice presidents)
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-07-30 9:32 AM (#88222 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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`F course it`s tremOlo..comes from TREMOR....where`s GCG to explain to us the finer art of language....but I say like Mr.O..`t should be tremelo...and by the looks of a Bigsby..whammy-bar should be applicable.. ;)

Vic
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an4340
Posted 2007-07-30 10:38 AM (#88223 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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I always thought tremolo was an effect bo diddley used. And that there's another kind of tremolo related to mandolin flat picking. Both related to volume. And then there's the misnamed tremolo bar on strat, related to pitch and only slightly volume. All with the same spelling, though I pronounce it as trem MOE lo, 'cause it's funny.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-30 2:25 PM (#88224 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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I guess my point is that yes it is technically spelled Tremolo, however, it appears about 1/2 the planet (or at least 1/2 of who is online on the planet) are spelling it wrong. Now I see this at times, but not usually when it's a business name or a bands name or a website address and such.
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ChatMan
Posted 2007-07-30 4:16 PM (#88225 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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There are many cases where an incorrect usage becomes so widespread that it becomes part of the lexicon. My personal favorite peeve on this issue is forte (a particular expertise, pronounced fohrt) and forte (a musical direction for loud volume, pronounced fohr-tay). The latter pronunciation is so widespread that it is now considered correct for both usages. In fact the American Heritage Dictionary list the second pronunciation as preferred for all uses. I guess that's the price we pay for using a living language.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-30 5:09 PM (#88226 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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But at least it's always spelled the same.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-07-30 6:10 PM (#88227 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Somewhere, someone has a warehouse full of those tremolo arms that have disappeared off every used guitar on the planet and he's got them for sale, but no one contacts him because we're all looking for tremelo arms.
When you do a computer search, you have to spell it the same way as the sales person spells it.
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Beal
Posted 2007-07-30 8:50 PM (#88228 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo



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I use the reverb on my amp instead.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-30 9:25 PM (#88229 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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It's not so much the spelling that is wrong, but the definition of the term. Tremolo is a variation in volume, and vibrato is variation in pitch. Leo Fender caused all the problems by calling the Stratocaster's "hand vibrato" a "syncronised tremolo" and perversely the tremolo circuits of his amplifiers "Vibrato" Go figure.
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edensharvest
Posted 2007-07-30 9:30 PM (#88230 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Was that "Stat" or "Strat?" Just checking... ;)
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-30 9:33 PM (#88231 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Oh, excuse me, like you don't hit the occasional typo after a tough gig and a bottle and a half of Chilean Cabernet
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cliff
Posted 2007-07-30 9:46 PM (#88232 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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you OnIsland yet, Paulie?? . . .
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2007-07-30 10:00 PM (#88233 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Days Cliff, just a few more days. I finished with my company on Friday, bunch of legal stuff to do and then I'm semi-retired, or at least working to make my living as and when I feel like it, instead of slogging my guts out to make a goddamn corporate profit.
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cliff
Posted 2007-07-30 10:05 PM (#88234 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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nice.
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Country Artist
Posted 2007-07-30 11:11 PM (#88235 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo



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Welcome to the blues life, Paul.

And yes, it is tremolo.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-31 12:21 AM (#88236 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
When you do a computer search, you have to spell it the same way as the sales person spells it.
Just for fun...

Listed on eBay as of this post there are 17 Auctions and 21 Store listings for a trem-e-lo arm and 73 Auctions and no store listings?? for a trem-o-lo arm.

But wait, there's more.

A search on ebay for Vibrato arm results in only FOUR Auction listings and 33 Store listings..

BUT... there seems to be a pattern.

While the Fender style bar seems to be called a Tremelo or Tremolo, the Bigsby style seems to be referred to as Vibrato.

Now this is just funny stuff...

Search for Whammy Bar and you get 22 results, but wait... If you really need one... a search for Whammy Bar gets 111 auctions!!!! We have a winner.

So basically, if you need one of these, you best search for a "(Whammy),(Tremelo),(Tremolo),(Vibrato)" as this will result in 882 listings!!!!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2007-07-31 12:52 AM (#88237 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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I don't know why I bothered looking. I don't know how to use it, no matter what it's called.
Congrats on the retirement, Paul. You don't look old enough.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2007-07-31 2:27 AM (#88238 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Congrats Paul!!!!!
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Designzilla
Posted 2007-07-31 6:23 AM (#88239 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Miles, don't forget the old Gibson vibrola. Seven hits on eBay, since we're keeping score.
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edensharvest
Posted 2007-07-31 10:37 AM (#88240 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Originally posted by Paul Templeman:
Oh, excuse me, like you don't hit the occasional typo after a tough gig and a bottle and a half of Chilean Cabernet
Touche. Though for me it would be a nice dark Chianti...

Congrats on the quasi-retirement!
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2007-07-31 3:19 PM (#88241 - in reply to #88217)
Subject: Re: Tremolo or Tremelo


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Retirement....what an ugly word...makes me feel old.. :)

Vic
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