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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-14 11:43 PM (#528204)
Subject: Adamas strings


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I know this has been addressed before but I can't remember what was said. Is it currently possible to buy Adamas strings anywhere? In particular I am looking for 1818 light strings which I believe came as stock on my 1681-9.
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-08-15 7:55 AM (#528206 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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I see that some online sellers still show them, but not sure if actually available.

More interesting to me (I know this was discussed, but I'm too lazy to search) are they actually different than the DA's except for the ball ends and the packaging?
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Slipkid
Posted 2016-08-15 9:16 AM (#528207 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Could it be that all the 100 different brands of strings come out of the same 3 or 4 suppliers?
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Damon67
Posted 2016-08-15 12:25 PM (#528210 - in reply to #528206)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Standingovation - 2016-08-15 5:55 AM I see that some online sellers still show them, but not sure if actually available. More interesting to me (I know this was discussed, but I'm too lazy to search) are they actually different than the DA's except for the ball ends and the packaging?

 

I was told they were true to the original spec. 

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alpep
Posted 2016-08-15 12:31 PM (#528211 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings


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I have been trying to get info on them for months.......
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-15 12:46 PM (#528212 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings


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Thank you all for replying. I would love to pursue Standingovation's query as to whether they are really the same as DA's. Anyone know anything about that??
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-08-15 3:07 PM (#528214 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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In a post from 2009 by someone who might know (but can't spell) ...

"sopposedly the adamas 1818 are equal core and wrap where as the EJ16 are a bigger core wire. I use the two interchangeably"
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-15 3:35 PM (#528215 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Sounds like that guy knows what he's talking about
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-15 10:58 PM (#528225 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings


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Meaning the wrap on the Ej16 is smaller than the core?? And would this be of any consequence whatsoever??
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Waskel
Posted 2016-08-16 8:15 AM (#528228 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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More mass, perhaps, in the D'adds would have a greater effect on the soundboard.
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d'ovation
Posted 2016-08-16 9:09 AM (#528230 - in reply to #528228)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings


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Waskel - 2016-08-16 8:15 AM More mass, perhaps, in the D'adds would have a greater effect on the soundboard.

Seems when someone gets a hold of a set they should measure length and weight maybe take a close up photograph of a string cross-section toofor some "scientific" comparisons.

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jay
Posted 2016-08-16 9:59 AM (#528231 - in reply to #528230)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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"measure length and weight maybe take a close up photograph of a string cross-section toofor some "scientific" comparisons"

Like restringing a guitar isn't a big enough pain in the ***...

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Beal
Posted 2016-08-16 12:26 PM (#528232 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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The deal with equal core and wrap was that the string should vibrate more because of a little less tension. Yes the Daddario has a bigger core than the wrap. But this is only a thousandth or so difference.
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-08-16 2:49 PM (#528234 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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And if you are not playing plugged in you should insert a plastic dummy plug in the jack so all that extra tone doesn't escape through the 1/4 inch hole.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-08-16 3:41 PM (#528238 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings


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"String tubes" revisited. "Dummy plug" is an appropriate name for it in this instance. I've noticed that the D'Addario string with the red ball sounds better than the other colors.
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-16 3:48 PM (#528239 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Oh no! The gold ones are better. Another thing to keep in mind is keeping the inside of the bowl clean and highly polished to help the sound slide out more smoothly
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red-twins
Posted 2016-08-16 5:19 PM (#528240 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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As written elsewhere, they are available in Germany in all gauge sizes:

https://www.thomann.de/de/adamas_os1818.htm

They deliver to almost anywhere, so someone may try...

And it says Made in America, which does not necessarily mean the US, right?!

Edited by red-twins 2016-08-16 5:23 PM
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-08-16 8:18 PM (#528244 - in reply to #528240)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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red-twins - 2016-08-16 3:19 PM

And it says Made in America, which does not necessarily mean the US, right?!

Until now I had NEVER seen anything that said "Product Made in America".
"America" is really TWO Continents.
That is like saying "Made in Asia" or "Made in Europe".
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-17 1:29 AM (#528248 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings


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Thank you all for your collective wisdom. Beal's comments were especially interesting. But now me just gonna put on some DA's and obsess no longer!
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-18 9:13 AM (#528273 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Good plan. The most important thing about strings is NEW. Old thudy dead never gets it.
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DanSavage
Posted 2016-08-18 10:35 AM (#528274 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Unless old thudy dead is the sound you're looking for. Sounds perfect for getting that grunge sound...
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leonardmccoy
Posted 2016-08-18 1:58 PM (#528277 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: RE: Adamas strings



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The Adamas strings feature identical core and wrap specs on the 5th and 6th string -- the idea being, I guess, that your low E string no longer outbooms your A string, and vice versa, in order to make for a better balance in terms of loudness and attack.

Adamas Strings vs. D'Addario EXP16 vs. D'Addario Nickel Bronze

Adamas Strings vs. D'Addario EXP 16 vs. D'Addario Nickel Bronze



Edited by leonardmccoy 2016-08-18 2:06 PM
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Damon67
Posted 2016-08-18 2:12 PM (#528278 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Leonard, It's the core and wrap that are the same dimension. not the E and A cores.

"Their Composite GaugingTM technique utilizes core and wrap wire of identical size so that neither part of the string dominates the various modes of string vibration. Thus, the strings vibrate more consistently and with greater amplitude to produce a sharper, more precise tone."
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Beal
Posted 2016-08-18 9:57 PM (#528279 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings



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Didn't realize Lenny was an expert.
So let's try this again. Equal core and wrap on the would strings.
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nerdydave
Posted 2016-08-18 10:49 PM (#528280 - in reply to #528204)
Subject: Re: Adamas strings


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I am unable to see the equal core & wrap on the E & A cores to which he referred. Although Beal and Damon as usual are correct.
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