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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-02-10 6:56 PM (#522090)
Subject: Say hello to my little friend! Feedback Welcome.



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So I was able to acquire a 1975 1114-4 Folklore. This little gem was well taken care of. There is literally not a scratch, blemish, or ding to be found. The action is good and the neck appears to be straight. The only concern I have is the bridge is a little low, looking like it may have been shaved down at some point. I took a straight edge ruler and checked from the frets to the bridge and it hits a hair below the bridge.

Does anyone have an opinion on whether or not I should use an in hole humidifier? I live in North Florida where the current temp at night is around 40 degrees and it is dry.

Thanks for all advice and opinions!
Steve.

 

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Darkbar
Posted 2016-02-10 7:11 PM (#522092 - in reply to #522090)
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I can't see any reason for a humidifier in Florida. Now THAT is a real beauty!

Reading the title of your post, I just naturally assumed it was from Weaser...


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Beal
Posted 2016-02-10 7:25 PM (#522093 - in reply to #522090)
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I never used them when I lived in north Florida.
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BanjoJ
Posted 2016-02-10 7:36 PM (#522094 - in reply to #522090)
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Very nice indeed. Enjoy!
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MWoody
Posted 2016-02-10 7:50 PM (#522095 - in reply to #522090)
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Nice!
Just keep it in the same place that is comfortable for people.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-02-10 8:10 PM (#522096 - in reply to #522090)
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Purdy! Folklores are just Great!
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Standingovation
Posted 2016-02-10 8:37 PM (#522097 - in reply to #522090)
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I know this was discuss at length but I can't find it in the archives ... why did some Folklores have classical slothead tuners and some have steel post slothead tuners?
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-02-10 8:51 PM (#522098 - in reply to #522097)
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I think that Ovation simply used the same plastic shafts for both nylon string and steel string 1114's until around 1975. After that they started using metal shafts for the steel string models.
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Nancy
Posted 2016-02-10 9:37 PM (#522099 - in reply to #522098)
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CONGRATULATIONS!!!

I just Love seeing these Older O's in such Wonderful shape!!
That one is just SWEET!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-02-11 10:21 AM (#522104 - in reply to #522098)
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Steveomatic - 2016-02-10 7:51 PM

I think that Ovation simply used the same plastic shafts for both nylon string and steel string 1114's until around 1975. After that they started using metal shafts for the steel string models.


That's what I remember, too, except for the last of the nylon shafts were in 1977, which is when my Folklore was made.
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bburg
Posted 2016-02-11 11:09 AM (#522105 - in reply to #522090)
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If you upgrade the old tuners to the new ones without the plastic sleeve, you can press some brass bushings into the inside of the headstock and get the best tuning machines on the planet. The shaft is rotating in the brass bushing and not in the wood.... They will go as smooth as no other tuners. Ah, and take the small ones, they have a better gear ratio.....


Bernie
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-02-11 12:13 PM (#522106 - in reply to #522090)
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Sounds like too much work, but every time I think about changing strings on mine (they're long overdue) I think about what a pain it is to keep the strings on the nylon posts.
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bburg
Posted 2016-02-11 1:51 PM (#522107 - in reply to #522090)
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Mark, thats easy: Take off the 4 screws on every side of the tuners and take them off. Put the bushings ( they are delivered with the new tuners) into the holes (allmost posiblle with your fingers) and install the new tuners with the 4 little screws. That's it!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-02-11 2:36 PM (#522110 - in reply to #522090)
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Thanks. I thought you were finding the bushings that would fit or manufacturing them yourself.
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bburg
Posted 2016-02-12 11:38 AM (#522120 - in reply to #522090)
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BTW, these are my favorite guitars. Mine is made in '74, also in great shape, upgraded with the newest generation of pickups and preamps with XLR and the tuners in gold with the bushings....

Congrats for yours, Steveomatic! Hope you will love it too.

Bernie
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-02-12 11:53 AM (#522123 - in reply to #522090)
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I'm with you, Bernie. I found mine on ebay just after I found the OFC. The prior owner was told that it was a nylon string guitar and couldn't figure out how to get the nylon strings on it. He thought there was something wrong with the guitar and apparently everyone else did to, because I got it for $305. It was perfect, except for some fret wear (someone apparently knew how to use it) and a loose brace that I easily fixed. They sound like I think Ovations should sound. I like the old preamps. Simple. A built in tuner would be nice, but a Snark works great for that.
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ovie26
Posted 2016-02-12 12:12 PM (#522125 - in reply to #522090)
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Very nice, Steve! I have its much younger cousin, the FD-14. Still, there is nothing quite as nice as a vintage model in the condition of yours. Enjoy!

Vin
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Jonmark Stone
Posted 2016-02-12 12:52 PM (#522127 - in reply to #522090)
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Looks like new-old-stock. Beautiful.
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arumako
Posted 2016-02-13 8:28 AM (#522134 - in reply to #522123)
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Mark in Boise - 2016-02-12 1:53 AM

I'm with you, Bernie. I found mine on ebay just after I found the OFC. The prior owner was told that it was a nylon string guitar and couldn't figure out how to get the nylon strings on it. He thought there was something wrong with the guitar and apparently everyone else did to, because I got it for $305...They sound like I think Ovations should sound...

$305! Jeez...that's better than a Disney Princess story! What a gorgeous find, Steveomatic! Congratulations. You just never come across those over here in Japan. Awesome!
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2016-02-13 12:59 PM (#522139 - in reply to #522090)
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I played mine last night. Still wonderful, except it needs new strings.
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-02-13 4:20 PM (#522142 - in reply to #522107)
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Where can I find these tuners to purchase them to upgrade?
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2016-02-13 5:29 PM (#522143 - in reply to #522090)
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http://www.ebay.com/itm/Schaller-Ovation-3-3-NOS-NIB-classical-styl...
Here are some Folklore tuners on eBay from Al. (Last One)

I don't know if these come with the bushings. You would have to as Al.


Edited by Old Man Arthur 2016-02-13 5:31 PM
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bburg
Posted 2016-02-14 4:09 AM (#522145 - in reply to #522090)
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They are NOT produced any longer by Schaller. If some one is in need of them should grab them.... and Al's are the real original ones!!!

I think Al's have no bushings included. I think the gold ones for classical guitars had them and the Mini M6 tuners in gold with the carved plates and without the plastic sleeves had them as well...

Bernie
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Steveomatic
Posted 2016-02-14 7:12 AM (#522146 - in reply to #522145)
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Does anyone know if I can remove the plastic sleeves from the original tuners on my Folklore? Thanks!
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bburg
Posted 2016-02-15 9:37 AM (#522182 - in reply to #522090)
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Yes, crack them off! Without the plastic the gear ratio is much better and easier to string up with steel strings.

Bernie
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