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JustKim
Posted 2015-12-14 12:09 PM (#519340)
Subject: New Back?


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Location: Connecticut		Did you guys see this on the Ovation Facebook? A comment from O says the back is wood, not a faux finished lyrachord body. Wha????

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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-12-14 1:51 PM (#519344 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?


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Location: Boise, Idaho		I didn't see the comment about it being a wood back.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-12-14 7:58 PM (#519350 - in reply to #519344)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota		They responded with: Wood

I think it looks like Hydrographics, very cool! A bit too wild for my tastes, but if it is, it opens up an Entire new World of Art for the backs, and Personalization!!!

Myself, I really like this one: (I am guessing Walnut Laminate, GORGEOUS!!!)


Edited by Nancy 2015-12-14 8:09 PM




(New Laminate.jpg)



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Patch
Posted 2015-12-15 6:25 AM (#519359 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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That one got my attention too Nancy.

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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2015-12-15 6:46 AM (#519361 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?


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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest		Vipers are wood.
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JustKim
Posted 2015-12-15 8:47 AM (#519363 - in reply to #519361)
Subject: Re: New Back?


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Mr. Ovation - 2015-12-15 7:46 AM

Vipers are wood.


Yeah, but that first pic isn't a Viper!
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Nancy
Posted 2015-12-15 9:35 AM (#519364 - in reply to #519359)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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Patch - 2015-12-15 6:25 AM

That one got my attention too Nancy.



We are a pair Patch! We both Love fine wood grains!!
I would have gone with a dark bridge and different colored brown and black eppies though.
Did you notice that the bridge has slightly changed too?
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jay
Posted 2015-12-15 10:08 AM (#519368 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Texas		I wonder if the "wood" is something that wouldn't look good in its' natural state. Not all wood is meant to be seen. Just sayin.
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Patch
Posted 2015-12-15 11:05 AM (#519372 - in reply to #519364)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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Nancy - 2015-12-15 10:35 AM
Patch - 2015-12-15 6:25 AM

That one got my attention too Nancy.

We are a pair Patch! We both Love fine wood grains!! I would have gone with a dark bridge and different colored brown and black eppies though. Did you notice that the bridge has slightly changed too?

That's a standard bridge for an EA-68 Viper Nancy. The strings go through the body to the back. I've had two Vipers that were sacrificed to GAS, but I really want another one. Too bad I'm broke....

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Nancy
Posted 2015-12-15 12:46 PM (#519376 - in reply to #519372)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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Patch - 2015-12-15 11:05 AM

Nancy - 2015-12-15 10:35 AM
Patch - 2015-12-15 6:25 AM

That one got my attention too Nancy.

We are a pair Patch! We both Love fine wood grains!! I would have gone with a dark bridge and different colored brown and black eppies though. Did you notice that the bridge has slightly changed too?

That's a standard bridge for an EA-68 Viper Nancy. The strings go through the body to the back. I've had two Vipers that were sacrificed to GAS, but I really want another one. Too bad I'm broke....



Ooooh! Ok! Thank You Patch! I know little to nothing about Vipers, other than I like the name!
Thank you - I am going to have to go study them!!

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Damon67
Posted 2015-12-15 12:56 PM (#519380 - in reply to #519376)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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Here's the back side Nancy...

 

 

And here's an unfinished body...

 





(Ovationtour016.jpg)



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Nancy
Posted 2015-12-15 1:30 PM (#519381 - in reply to #519380)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota		Thank You Damon!!!!

So a Viper is an Electric Model with a Solid Wood Body, and but with carved out chambers? What kind of top do they normally put on one? A laminate, or a solid?

Do they produce a totally different tone than say a UKII? They look just like a regular Elite Acoustic, but are much thinner, and are solid body (with chambers). Interesting!!! I would love to hear what one sounds like!

Thank you SO much for the pictures, now I NEED to know about them. If I end up with one, I am coming after you and Patch!!! LOL!!
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jay
Posted 2015-12-15 1:58 PM (#519383 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Nancy, They were solid body (ok chambered) electric acoustics. They really didn't sound much different than a Les Paul unplugged, meaning they had no acoustic value.

To support a little of what OMA brought up in another thread, the EA 63 certainly had the Ovation sound, plugged in, as other O classical's had, plugged in. I had a Gibson CE, which had a very similar looking piezo to the EA-63. Not much difference between the two plugged in.



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bburg
Posted 2015-12-15 2:00 PM (#519384 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh)		Hi Nancy,

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rFd-8mISe9w

Jonmark plays one.....


Bernie
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2015-12-15 3:16 PM (#519386 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?


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Location: Boise, Idaho		Ovation must have liked the name, too. The original Vipers were a solid body guitar with a 24 fret to the body neck. Skinny at the nut, with 2 special pickups that make it sound sort of like a Telecaster. The Viper III had 3 pickups and are pretty rare. The second Vipers are the ones you are looking at and the third are the f hole ones they did recently, for an artist whose name I can't spell.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-12-15 3:40 PM (#519387 - in reply to #519386)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota		VERY Cool!!!

They are in a Class all their own then! I am not sure if it is Jonmark's talent, or the guitar, but they have a Beautiful softer sound all of their own, don't they? They sound acoustic, but are made like an Electric.

Just listened to 2 more of Jonmark's songs, this is a Perfect Guitar for his voice, Beautiful, Soft and Translucent! A voice made for story-telling.

Thank You Guys! Once again, "askin' the Boys" gets me the answers I wanted or needed, in a way I could easily understand! You guys are THE BEST!!!! Thank You!!

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Now back to the Thread (DW Ovations) was the new REO Guitar of Kevin Cronins's going to be a Viper???
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Damon67
Posted 2015-12-15 4:49 PM (#519388 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Jet City		The Cronin signature is an EA Viper, yes.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-12-15 6:29 PM (#519393 - in reply to #519388)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Frozen Tundra of Minnesota		Thank you Damon!

Ok, to make a visional analogy for me to remember, you can tell the difference like tail lights (Camaro/Firebird - Cougar/Thunderbird), but use the neck ends (for a first glance identification):

The Roundhole Acoustics have the semi-circle at the bottom of the neck
The Elites/Adamas Acoustics have the angled bottom
The Electric (Solid Bodies) have the straight cut bottom.

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2wheeldrummer
Posted 2015-12-15 9:23 PM (#519395 - in reply to #519393)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Nancy - 2015-12-15 6:29 PM

Thank you Damon!

Ok, to make a visional analogy for me to remember, you can tell the difference like tail lights (Camaro/Firebird - Cougar/Thunderbird), but use the neck ends (for a first glance identification):

The Roundhole Acoustics have the semi-circle at the bottom of the neck
The Elites/Adamas Acoustics have the angled bottom
The Electric (Solid Bodies) have the straight cut bottom





Don't forget the Custom Legend with the Mustache curve on the end of the fretboard.
And just to keep you guessing some of the collectors have square end fretboards on multi-soundhole tops.
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-12-16 12:45 AM (#519399 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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That wood back is okay, IMO.

I'd be really impressed if DW did a wood back like this:

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Patch
Posted 2015-12-16 6:27 AM (#519407 - in reply to #519399)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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DanSavage - 2015-12-16 1:45 AM

That wood back is okay, IMO.

I'd be really impressed if DW did a wood back like this:

I've been trying to track down one of those for years! Love the look and the concept.

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DetlefMichel
Posted 2015-12-16 8:05 AM (#519408 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Muenster/Germany		Yairi built guitars like this in the 80s.
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DetlefMichel
Posted 2015-12-16 8:17 AM (#519409 - in reply to #519340)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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Location: Muenster/Germany		The Ovation body above appears to be a usual black body (these are white in the raw, or not?), partly carefully grinded, then fine-sanded and polished/laquered. Only a matter of patience, a good machine and courage...
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-12-16 10:47 AM (#519422 - in reply to #519407)
Subject: RE: New Back?



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Patch - 2015-12-16 4:27 AM
I've been trying to track down one of those for years! Love the look and the concept.


I keep an eye out for these guitars (DY-92) on eBay. I saw one recently that had an minimum bid of $7K. (yikes!) I don't know if it sold or not.

After I finish my torrefied 1617/1117, my next BFLG project will be an Ovation-clone with a wood back like the DY-92.
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DanSavage
Posted 2015-12-16 10:50 AM (#519423 - in reply to #519409)
Subject: Re: New Back?



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DetlefMichel - 2015-12-16 6:17 AM

The Ovation body above appears to be a usual black body (these are white in the raw, or not?), partly carefully grinded, then fine-sanded and polished/laquered. Only a matter of patience, a good machine and courage...


I looked closely at that back and it is wood. It was built up using layers of wood, then was CNC machined to the shape of the Ovation bowl. Not too sure how thick the wood is, but it's probably substantially thicker than the fiberglass bowl or the back of a normal wood guitar.
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