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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I want to put together a "master list" of Ovation Models and I ran into some terminology snags. This below is what I came up with, but I'd like opinions and input. As you can see as example I put "Adamas" instead of Adamas I and II, but if I put I and II do I need to add the CMT, CWT, and ME's and even the Slothead.
Well if I do that... Does that mean I need to Put Magnum I, Magnum II, Magnum III and Magnum IV and Magnum Fretless? or is it ok just to say Magnum. Another sticking point was Josh White and John Lennon, and while it's "known" as the Melissa Etheridge model, it really is an Adamas SMT.... and that leads us to the Kaki King model and the DJ Ashba models. Should they be noted in the master list or are they really just regular models with different finishes. Then we get to the Hurrican, Eclipse, Tornado, Thunderhead, all of which are models... but then why not just Magnum, just like Adamas. Open to ideas, I really want to put a master list of models together. And while we're at it... there is the Classic and also the Contemporary Folk Classic, Concert Classic, and Artist Classic, or are they areally all just Classic. HEEEAAAAALLLLLLLP !!!!! | Academy | | Adamas | | Anniversary | | Applause | | Artist | | Balladeer | | Breadwinner | | Celebrity | | Classic | | Collectors' | | Contemporary Folk Classic | | Country Artist | | Deacon | | Eclipse | | Elite | | Folklore | | Hurricane | | Legend | | Longneck | | Magnum | | Mandocello | | Mandolin | | Matrix | | Pacemaker | | Parlor | | Patriot | | Pinnacle | | Preacher | | Preacher Deluxe | | Tangent | | Thunderbolt | | Thunderhead | | Tornado | | Trekker | | Typhoon | | UK II | | Ultra | | Ultra Solid Body | | Viper |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Okay... Only the Kaki King Adamas has the gasket epaulets, so it is unique.
The Melissa Etheridge models are distinctive for it's 12th Fret logo and her signature.
The Josh White and the Folklore are the Same guitar... with or without Josh's Name.
The John Lennon is really just a 1651, until John played it.
Maybe you should lump all of the Re-Issues into two groups... Adamas and Ovation.
As to the DJ Ashba Celebrity guitars... they are Celebrity guitars.
As are the Mick Thompson MT37 and the Nikki Sixx Heroin Diaries guitars.
Maybe a special section for the many colored Flame T's. 
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Location: moline,illinois | IMHO Adamas guitars should be broken down the I and II share the same type of top and suspension ring but SMT and CVT's have different types of carbon fiber tops plus there's the UTE and OFC guitars so maybe you need sub-catagories.
What about the Custom Legend it could be separated from the legend series since they used different bracings at times and the Custom Legend had extras,AAA tops,carved bridges,more abalone...just saying.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Thanks OMA and twoWheel, unfortunately for what I want to use this for... I need one list.. just a list.. I think I need to not over-think this, but at the same time... Like if someone asked, back in 2000.... what models are made in the USA... You'd respond Elite, Adamas, Legend, Balladeer, Folklore (to name a few) as opposed to responding Adamas 1, Adamas 2, Adamas SMT, Adamas, Melissa Etheridge, Legend, Al Dimeola, etc.
So maybe my question to the hive mind should be... is anything really "missing" from the list that I couldn't just say "well that's really a... with different epi's or electronics or whatever"
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Here what the list looks like with all the models in the model reference... I added the VXT too.
Academy
Adamas
Adamas #47 Re-issue
Adamas 1
Adamas CVT
Adamas II
Adamas III
Adamas Millennium
Adamas Premier
Adamas Q
Adamas SMT
Anniversary (10th)
Applause
Applause Bass
Applause Bass
Applause Mandolin
Applause Uke
Artist
Artist Classic
Artist/Folklore
Balladeer
Balladeer 12-String
Balladeer LX
Balladeer Reissue
Breadwinner
Celebrity
Celebrity Bass
Celebrity Deluxe
Longneck
Celebrity Deluxe Bass
Celebrity Mandolin
Celebrity Viper
Classic
Collectors'
Concert Classic
Contemporary Folk
Classic
Country Artist
Custom
Legend
Custom Balladeer
Custom Elite
Custom Legend
Custom Legend Special
Deacon
Deluxe Balladeer
Double neck
Eclipse
Elite
Elite 1966-1996
Elite Bass
Elite Limited
Elite LX
Elite Special
Elite Standard
Elite T
Folklore
Folklore Deluxe
Folklore Josh White
Glen Campbell
Glen Campbell 12
string
Glen Campbell Artist
Glen Campbell Deluxe
Balladeer
Glen Campbell Model
Hurricane
John Lennon
Commemorative
Josh White
Josh White Reissue
Legend
Legend Elite
Legend Limited
Legend LX
Longneck
Magnum 1 Bass
Magnum 2 Bass
Magnum 3 Bass
Magnum 4 Bass
Mandocello
Mandolin
Mandolin, 1966-1996
Matrix
Nakao Custom Legend
Pacemaker
Parlor
Patriot
Pinnacle
Preacher
Preacher Deluxe
Soprano Uke
Standard Balladeer
Standard Elite
Standard Elite LX
Tangent
Tenor Uke
Thunderbolt
Thunderhead
Tornado
Trekker
Typhoon I
Typhoon II
Typhoon IV
Typhoon V
UK II
Ultra
Ultra Deluxe
Ultra GP
Ultra Solid Body
Viper
Viper 12-string
Viper 1966-1996
Viper Bass
Viper III
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Location: Upper Left USA | Is there room for the PF Electric and Bass protos?
The iDeas?
I should have kept a separate list of Woody's...
Good job Miles! |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Outstanding, Miles. |
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Location: Canada | I have recently updated the list prices going up to 2010 where all the models are sorted by model number. The model descriptions could have been expanded by using the master list, so maybe these could be merged. Though the master list is obviously more easy to navigate without the yearly list prices. I also have tried to break up the huge list into tabs of "families". The thread where I posted is here:
http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=46... |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | The Angel Step Walnut guitars and the 2000 limited Walnut guitar? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Josh white and the folklore were separate and had different machine heads and several years between them. Probably different peghead angles.
All basses were available as fretless, it was an option just like a color.
Edited by Beal 2015-11-30 9:51 AM
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Location: sitting at my computer | Mandolins are listed. How 'bout ukuleles? |
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Location: Munich, Germany | The Longneck for me is just an Elite, as long as it is not an Adamas. Otherwise you would have to list 12-strings separately as well. What you do with the Balladeer, but not with the other models. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Not as easy at it looks  |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | We considered the long neck a separate model.
Applesauce came in 6, 12 and bass. Also the aluminum neck US models and the import wooden necks
Vipers were a 1 & 3. And then later as the solid acoustics in 6,12& bass |
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Location: Munich, Germany | The gas station guy is right, as always. Sorry!
Best regards,
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Location: New Hartford CT | To further muddy the waters, there were several different versions of Nakao models... |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Off the top of my head ...
Adamas Mandolin
Adamas U681
MOB
iDea
25th Anniversary
Deacon 12
Preacher Deluxe
Preacher Deluxe 12
30th Anniversary
Custom Legend CM30 |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | ARRRRRRRgggggggghhhhhhhh The phrase "a good deed never goes unpunished" has never been more true. Hurrumph |
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Location: moline,illinois | Your doing a great job Mr O just let everyone put in there 2 cents this week and add the ones that are truly relevant.i.e.add the longneck as beal says thats a different model but not the custom legend 1719 CM-30 otherwise you'd be trying to list every single guitar IMHO |
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Location: Sunshine State, Australia | You've got waaaaay too much spare time on your hands Miles. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Were the "books" listed as separate?
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Location: 6 String Ranch | You really need a separate category for the limited runs of stuff, like the books, PFs, OFCs, and the like |
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Location: Jet City | Beal - 2015-11-30 6:16 PM You really need a separate category for the limited runs of stuff, like the books, PFs, OFCs, and the like And synth models, and Tamo Ashes, and wood-topped UKIIs, and Messina Deacons, and Bluebirds, and and and. Good luck buddy! |
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Location: Central Massachusetts | And the wood-topped Adamas models were fairly popular during the road-show era... |
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Location: Muenster/Germany | ...Nakao Elite...and aren´t the 12stringers something special, too?
I believe that a list is the wrong format. I would think more-dimensional, create a "family tree", that makes it easier to integrate the special editions. |
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I need some assistance with the Master List
