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TAFKAR |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985 Location: Sydney, Australia | XRaiderman indicated that DW may do some reissues in the future. Which models do you think should be reissued? (One pick per member) I vote for the #47RI, which would then be known as the #47RIRI | ||
BanjoJ |
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Joined: September 2012 Posts: 811 Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | Only 1! OK. A Folklore 1614 but with a new preamp. Or any 6 string with a 1 7/8" nut. | ||
xraiderman |
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Joined: April 2015 Posts: 81 | Bring on more reissue ideas... | ||
stephent28 |
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Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Talk to Al. He would actually know what might sell. | ||
xraiderman |
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Joined: April 2015 Posts: 81 | This? (06_Adamas_Ovation_47RI_a.jpg) Attachments ---------------- 06_Adamas_Ovation_47RI_a.jpg (69KB - 0 downloads) | ||
TAFKAR |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985 Location: Sydney, Australia | That's the puppy! It's a faithful recreation of one of the original slot head adamii. #47 of the originals was Charlie Kaman's favourite, so that's the one they recreated. | ||
xraiderman |
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Joined: April 2015 Posts: 81 | Right Now Ovation is 99% cutaways, do you think there will be demand for non cutaways? x | ||
Thunderbolt |
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Joined: April 2014 Posts: 103 Location: Ontario Canada | it,s not a reissue....but i would sure like to see a 50th Anniversary model, ....i think it should be on the headstock, like the 25th. or what would really be awesome...get some ideas from John and the boys and even some original employees on what they think the 50th Anniversary should be. that would mean something!!!! but you better hurry! | ||
xraiderman |
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Joined: April 2015 Posts: 81 | I believe the crew in New Hartford should pick the 50th! | ||
Thunderbolt |
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Joined: April 2014 Posts: 103 Location: Ontario Canada | i believe your correct! put me down for 1 please and thank-you!!! DW ROCKS!! Edited by Thunderbolt 2015-05-12 12:28 AM | ||
BanjoJ |
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Joined: September 2012 Posts: 811 Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | xraiderman - 2015-05-12 5:20 PM I believe the crew in New Hartford should pick the 50th! +1 | ||
TAFKAR |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985 Location: Sydney, Australia | xraiderman - 2015-05-12 5:11 PM Right Now Ovation is 99% cutaways, do you think there will be demand for non cutaways? x I think most guitars they sell will continue to be cutaways, but certain non-cutaways will sell. 47RIs sell for $5k and sell quickly (one the other day sold within two days on Facebook). Apparently some of the members here never venture past the 4th fret. Those of us with more than one six stringer can afford the luxury of a full bodied guitar. The deep bowls that people rave about here are almost exclusively non-cutaways. Before any one jumps on me, I said "almost". | ||
Old Man Arthur |
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Joined: September 2006 Posts: 10777 Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Remember the 40th Anniversary models? I like the 1614 idea... or any 1 7/8" nut. But that is not really a "re-issue" idea. I have just been liking a little wider nut. I have a 1114 and a 6774. (1 7/8") And both my Composite Acoustics have 1 3/4" nuts... As does my Morgan Monroe and my and two of my Traveler guitars. With old age come a liking for a little looser fit. | ||
Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | First of all, I would expect that a reissue would be traditional, reflecting on previous designs. Adamas: Not always the best to reissue the reissue...in addition the OFC guitar is a slothead reissue of a 1687-8. From the pre-production slotheads, #47 (1187-2) was listed as the Engineer Department while #35 1689-2 wide neck was listed as Charles Kaman's and his favorite. I already have three of the Adamas slotheads - original #50 (-7, a/e), 47RI (-2, acoustic), and the OFC (-8, a/e). Hard to produce at a price point that many can afford. The OFC guitar cost $5,000. If you substituted the graphite case for a 9158-0 case, you would still have to pay about $4,300. I probably would not buy one. Wood Top: As an aside, per OvationGuitars.com, the recent Custom Legend is a cutaway. We already had the cutaway ADI and ADII (Al DiMeola 1769, now listed as 1716-ADII4 or ADii5) which is basically a cutaway Custom Legend. I don't know the sales numbers that the reissue of the shiny bowl Balladeer and Legend had. The last reissue of the Custom Legend was in 2004 - non-cutaway and bearclaw spruce. If there is not going to be a production line of this popular model, a reissue of the CL non-cutaway with a different wood or finish, brown bowl and case, would be a very good reissue. Based on the 1619, non-cutaway, AAA or higher grade top, 'A' braced, ebony bound fretboard, carved bridge and truss rod, gold or pearloid button tuning pegs, abalone binding and inlaids, dark sunburst finish contrasting with the abalone, strong pre-amp - WOW...I WOULD BUY IT! Unlike another reissue of an original pre-production slothead, it would be able to be sold at a reasonable price point. When Al commissioned the OFC guitar, the run was for only twelve. I believe this was based on the fact that few in the OFC could afford it. You want a guitar that will stand out on the store wall - dark sunburst and abalone. If the buyer wants a cut-away, show him the Al DiMeola in black or natural. Edited by Tony Calman 2015-05-12 1:25 AM | ||
2wheeldrummer |
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Joined: February 2014 Posts: 704 Location: moline,illinois | I think the 1537 was the first Elite and called by some the first wood topped adamas,that could make for an excellent reissue with an old school brown bowl and case to give it the retro appeal. Not sure if its really a reissue but the standard custom legend 1769 was dropped around 2000 in lieu of the Al Dimeola signature models,i heard al is no longer an ovation endorsee so so a next generation CL 1769 would be awesome. | ||
Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | Bill, as to "Right Now Ovation is 99% cutaways, do you think there will be demand for non cutaways?". I believe that was a mistake as I believe there is (and continue to be) a good market for non-cutaways. Personally, I like the Custom Legend from early times to the 2004. However, I have both cutaway and non-cutaway. A few years back, I had three ADII's' (not all at once). As an acoustic, I felt (although subjective) that the Custom Legend was a better design. All three of the ADII's were sold. | ||
Tony Calman |
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Joined: August 2003 Posts: 4619 Location: SoCal | Granted, this should probably be listed in the Q&A. However, at one time, I heard that Fender took all of the historical guitars, some prototypes, when they closed the factory down. Was DW able to hold on to them? So much a part of the history of Ovation. | ||
d'ovation |
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Joined: December 2003 Posts: 848 Location: Canada | I would love a chance to get a new 1687 as 47 is probably out of my reach. Don't really care for cutaway just use it to roll the strap into. | ||
stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | Reissue the Bearclaw 87C except with a hand laid contour bowl and LX neck. | ||
stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | The 50th Anniversary could be a 1689-7 Slothead with a heavy dose of the fleck paint making it a "gold top". | ||
BanjoJ |
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Joined: September 2012 Posts: 811 Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | richard.parker - 2015-05-12 3:58 PM (One pick per member) | ||
danomyte |
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Joined: January 2014 Posts: 402 Location: Taxed To Death State | The 1537 is one of the best sounding wood tops and most sought after guitars Ovation ever made. When I meet a non Ovation player or believer, I let them play my 1537 and every time they are blown away from the sound of a 1537. A 1537 reissue that sounded as good as the original would be a home run in my opinion. A slothead reissue is right up there as well. | ||
Designzilla |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150 Location: Orlando, FL | The 1537 has to get my vote as well. These are just great guitars. Or maybe even better, the 12 string version, the 1538. I would love to replace mine! And if you really feel the need to make a cutaway, reissue the 1547 too! | ||
Koenig Kurt |
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Joined: April 2006 Posts: 848 Location: Munich, Germany | A reissue of an existing reissue would be a kick in the *** of any former reissue buyer. Wouldn't do that, even if we were the only to know. Or feel. What would I like to see? Get on with the Collector's series in the way it used to be: the first to sport innovations, great woods and or features. Other than that a 50th anniversary guitar would be fine, but to sell this one in great numbers it doesn't have to be too special, so 12-frets, slotheads, all the stuff we like to see should be avoided. Or do a 50th anni series, one or two for the masses and one or two specials. All in all I think the most important thing would be to get Ovation back on the cool line. Which will be the most difficult part of it. Best regards, Kurt But if I have to pick anything to reissue: any A-braced Legend or Custom legend would do the trick. But remember the Traditional series, they were reissues in a way - I don't believe they sold them in big numbers. | ||
FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4042 Location: Utah | On the other dream thread, A-braced deep bowls got a lot of votes. I suggest a Glen Campbell reissue. It is one great sounding guitar, with the tie in to the first star performer to bring the brand to public attention. It would provide a marketing angle as a tribute to one of the very great performers of the last 50 years as well as a tribute to the early history of Ovation and the innovations which launched Ovation into nearly instant adoption by so many top performers. Perhaps the question is: What is the purpose of the reissue? Is it a vehicle for promoting the brand in advertisement to new customers? Is it to bring customers already familiar with the brand back to buy something they are comfortable with? I've already got a nice small collection that covers the bases. Old A-braced, new Adamas, 1537, mid bowl LX. What would I buy? A 47RI or an A-braced deep bowl. | ||
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