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DetlefMichel
Posted 2015-05-02 8:26 AM (#509747)
Subject: 1547-1 on ebay



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have you seen this: 291447188380
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-02 10:13 AM (#509752 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: RE: 1547-1 on ebay



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http://www.ebay.com/itm/291447188380?ru=http%3A%2F%2Fwww.ebay.com%2...
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jbblunck
Posted 2015-05-02 11:48 PM (#509772 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Looks like a bit of a mess, no?
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Tony Calman
Posted 2015-05-03 2:48 AM (#509778 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Didn't the 1547 also have the floating fret board like the 1537? Sure hope he or his luthier glues or puts a screw through it.
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danomyte
Posted 2015-05-03 6:31 AM (#509779 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Looks to be in decent shape. I've seen a lot worse 1537s out there. Should be a floater 2 bolt neck.
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Tony Calman
Posted 2015-05-03 7:01 AM (#509781 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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From the eBay statement, appears that he and his luthier think that there is a problem with the fret board that glue would fix.
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Damon67
Posted 2015-05-03 1:58 PM (#509786 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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The fingerboard looks trashed.

Too bad. This is a guitar I've always wanted. In a perfect world, a -1



Edited by Damon67 2015-05-03 2:00 PM
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Geostorm98
Posted 2015-05-03 2:52 PM (#509791 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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I can't help but be intrigued by this guitar...the FB is stained (at least no divots I can see), a couple frets look as if they need to go...but a trip to the Ovation spa, a new nut, maybe repair the crack as needed, a good setup and cleaning...something about guitars (especially THIS model) with a history that has been played and loved has a lot of charm...and mojo.
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Waskel
Posted 2015-05-03 4:31 PM (#509793 - in reply to #509781)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Tony Calman - 2015-05-03 5:01 AM

From the eBay statement, appears that he and his luthier think that there is a problem with the fret board that glue would fix.

Not like we haven't seen that before. At least they didn't mention screwing it down...

Just noticed the seller is a silent OFC'r. Hopefully he'll read this - DON"T GLUE THE FRETBOARD TO THE TOP. IT'S SUPPOSED TO 'FLOAT'.

Also noticed he's in Corvallis... HELLO FROM LINCOLN CITY!



Edited by Waskel 2015-05-03 4:35 PM
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Tony Calman
Posted 2015-05-03 7:07 PM (#509798 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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He was on the OFC about the same time as I posted
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2015-05-04 7:58 AM (#509814 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Nice label! Mine only says "Elite":

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That New Guy
Posted 2015-05-07 11:26 PM (#509942 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay


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I don't get it. Can we talk about what we'd pay for that instrument? (Is that a no-no here?) I mean, there's a less trashed, but "modified" Adamas "player special" on Ebay right now for around 850 and it looks pretty great as a player instrument (head stock issue and dropshot tuner hole remnants, but otherwise pretty decent, nice color, and it's an Adamas). This thing looks like it's been "well-loved" and I can't imagine it'd play better than the Adamas, not the way the action seems to be in the O listed here.

Without playing it and falling in love with it, I can't see paying more than a few hundred dollars for the guitar linked here. It's got cracks, fingerboard issues and chips, worn frets, dings, missing components, and I'm just going out on a angle to determine in the one angle provided but the action looks rough. None of this makes it a "bad" guitar, but none of this puts me anywhere near counting to $1,000. Certainly not joining an auction that starts at $1200. You can snap up Adamas in that price range in decent shape.

So... in the world of valuing instruments, what am I missing here? Is a mint 1547 Elite worth... $2500? Or how does one in this condition begin the bidding at the $1200 mark? Is this like that one Adamas that keeps getting re-listed in Ebay around 5 or 6k because the person just doesn't know any better? I get so pissed off seeing that one Adamas over and over way out of reality's price range. If I had a million dollars, I would buy it and then film a video of me selling it in person to another OFC-er for near its actual value, and send the video to that guy, or rent a billboard outside his house to screen the video all night long, and then I'd tell him never to list another Adamas or Ovation or I would hire someone to poke him in the chest every time he left the restroom and kick him in the butt every time he tried to tie his shoe or drink from a drinking fountain. Oh, yeah, I've discussed all this with my financial planner and he says it's possible if I live to 490 years old. I started eating my vegetables. I have goals now.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2015-05-07 11:47 PM (#509944 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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TNG-- Just cuz the guy wants $1200 for it doesn't make it worth $1200.
That guitar has been listed for 9 days with no bids.
IMHO he could have listed it for $1,000 Buy-It-Now and it still would not have sold.
Wait one more day and see if anybody bids.
Yes, a pristine 1547 is a rare, valuable guitar.
But if it is a beater... it is still a beater.
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That New Guy
Posted 2015-05-08 1:11 PM (#509976 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay


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Thanks, Old Man Arthur. That's about what I was thinking.
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Beal
Posted 2015-05-10 11:21 AM (#510112 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Isn't it relisted for 800?

Edited by Beal 2015-05-10 11:22 AM
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-10 1:30 PM (#510117 - in reply to #510112)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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cwk2 - 2015-05-10 11:21 AM

Isn't it relisted for 800?


Good Catch!

http://www.ebay.com/itm/RARE-Ovation-1547-1-Elite-Cutaway-Acoustic-...
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Beal
Posted 2015-05-10 6:42 PM (#510132 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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I drop the 800 in a heart beat, except I already have one that I never play and when I sell it Moody has first choice. This is a very cool and rare guitar if it is the one with the wooden binding. Only like that for about one year I think before it morfed into regular production.
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That New Guy
Posted 2015-05-10 7:54 PM (#510137 - in reply to #510132)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay


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I wouldn't drop 800 for one in that condition. And it's not a buy it now. It's where the seller wants to begin the bidding. Seller should start the bidding at 300 and see how high it goes. I'd play along if it started lower than what it's probably worth to me. If I could play it before bidding, I might have a different opinion, but Ebay instrument sales are too iffy. "Just a small crack." "Just a dent here or there." "Easily Repairable."
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Damon67
Posted 2015-05-10 7:59 PM (#510139 - in reply to #510132)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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cwk2 - 2015-05-10 4:42 PM ...Moody has first choice...

 

If there's a line, I'll jump in after Moody. Though I'm seriously considering this one... $800 and a trip to CT might work.

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Beal
Posted 2015-05-10 8:14 PM (#510141 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Well new guy, don't spend the money. 800-1000 is a fair price, but hey, what the hell do I know? I just used to run a gas station for airplanes.
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Nancy
Posted 2015-05-10 8:29 PM (#510143 - in reply to #510132)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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cwk2 - 2015-05-10 6:42 PM

I drop the 800 in a heart beat, except I already have one that I never play and when I sell it Moody has first choice. This is a very cool and rare guitar if it is the one with the wooden binding. Only like that for about one year I think before it morfed into regular production.


If you look at the 2nd to the last picture enlarged (the one showing the knobs), it does appear to have the wood binding!
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That New Guy
Posted 2015-05-10 9:21 PM (#510152 - in reply to #510143)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay


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So... for a 1547 in need of refretting, a greasy/chipped/worn fretboard, unoriginal knobs, a cracked top... this instrument is worth 800-1000? I bought an Adamas with a slight ding around the 4th fret and plenty of pick scrapes for 400 bucks last week, with great action, and a rare color. I just doubt that this guitar will ever maintain value--how when it's deteriorating--and really it's been poorly maintained for decades. It'll drop down in value but climb maybe, just not at the rate of 1547s that aren't abused. Once a crack always a crack, and you've got every other issue to deal with too.

One in very good condition I'd consider, but that guitar is a player, with serious issues, listed online. Buyer beware. 500 tops in my book. Someone will probably drop 650 on it once it becomes reasonable, but seriously. "$100 repair to a crack"? They'll just reinforce it and kill the tone. $100? Hilarious.

Wood binding is great and all on an instrument in condition worthy of collection. You can argue this one is... but you're on the arguing ball in a world of facts. Buy a different model or find one in better condition.
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That New Guy
Posted 2015-05-10 9:33 PM (#510153 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay


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Let's run the math on this. I just got an estimated shipping for 80.00 and I'm in the midwest. Now let's say a centrally located person like me bought it. Add another 80 bucks to trip it east for repair. Add another 80 for return trip. That's an extra 240.00 added on to the original sale price, and I'm still sitting here with a guitar that not only seen better days but seen worse owners.

If it sells for 1000, tack on 240 just in shipping to get repairs. Add another 200 in repairs. You just spent 1440 for a guitar in rough shape, hoping to make it better, despite fundamental flaws. Who does that? No one wise, not on this guitar.
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Koenig Kurt
Posted 2015-05-10 11:48 PM (#510160 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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Well, collectors normally don't do this kind of math. If they would, collecting would be have the fun. But okay, there have to be accountants under collectors as well.

Best regards,
Kurt
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Thunderbolt
Posted 2015-05-11 11:25 PM (#510209 - in reply to #509747)
Subject: Re: 1547-1 on ebay



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how many were made?
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