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Re: Custom Legend
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FWIW Alison, this guitar is a prime candidate for a preamp upgrade with the placement of the knobs. That's why I put the OP50 in that Legend I sent your way.
It would make an already awesome guitar more awesomer
I love the wide-neck (1 7/8") on my Folklore, and I'm using it more and more for finger style playing, but I would like a little more control of the sound at the guitar itself.
What do people think of adding a newer preamp? And what model preamp would be 'ideal'?
I must admit though, that I'm a little bit hesitant to modify a 33 year old guitar. So a newer model wide-neck could also be an option. (He says looking for an excuse to buy another guitar.)
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Location: Jet City | CanterburyStrings - 2015-03-10 4:36 PM I don't know why they didn't stick with that. I had the Al DiMeola... I was unemployed... sumthin had to give. |
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| BanjoJ - 2015-03-10 6:26 PM From another thread. Re: Custom Legend damon67 - 2015-03-11 10:37 AM FWIW Alison, this guitar is a prime candidate for a preamp upgrade with the placement of the knobs. That's why I put the OP50 in that Legend I sent your way. It would make an already awesome guitar more awesomer I love the wide-neck (1 7/8" ) on my Folklore, and I'm using it more and more for finger style playing, but I would like a little more control of the sound at the guitar itself. What do people think of adding a newer preamp? And what model preamp would be 'ideal'? I must admit though, that I'm a little bit hesitant to modify a 33 year old guitar. So a newer model wide-neck could also be an option. (He says looking for an excuse to buy another guitar. ) Ideas people? Banjo, I am getting a 1114 (1614 w/o electronics) back this week from Ovation with an OP Pro Studio installed. I would not hesitate a minute to put electronics in a favorite guitar and, particularly the 1114s and 1614s which will never have serious collector value, if that is your worry. [Will *any* Ovations?] I am considering selling my 6774 (later wide-neck steel string) but I'm not sure if I'm going to sell it singularly or with its nylon string twin (i.e., "Twin Sons of Different Mothers") as a pair. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Reasley - 2015-03-10 7:34 PM
particularly the 1114s and 1614s which will never have serious collector value,
 I beg to differ. 
(This thread did inspire me to dig-out my 1114  )
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | Reasley - 2015-03-11 2:34 PM
Banjo, I am getting a 1114 (1614 w/o electronics) back this week from Ovation with an OP Pro Studio installed. I would not hesitate a minute to put electronics in a favorite guitar and, particularly the 1114s and 1614s which will never have serious collector value, if that is your worry. [Will *any* Ovations?] I am considering selling my 6774 (later wide-neck steel string) but I'm not sure if I'm going to sell it singularly or with its nylon string twin (i.e., "Twin Sons of Different Mothers") as a pair.
Reasley, thanks for your input. I've been keeping an eye out for an Ovation preamp, but they don't come up too often here in Australia.
There's a 6774 for sale over here at present. The owner says 'The nut width is 1 13/16”', not 1 7/8".
How wide is the nut on your 6774?
I already have a 2773 LX, and don't feel the need another nylon stringer.
arthurseery - 2015-03-11 2:52 PM
(This thread did inspire me to dig-out my 1114 )
I'm with you OMA, my 1614 is very special to me. It was a wall hanger when I got it, as both of the main X braces were broken. I repaired it myself well over a year ago, and it sounds great!
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | BanjoJ - 2015-03-10 8:18 PM
There's a 6774 for sale over here at present. The owner says 'The nut width is 1 13/16”', not 1 7/8".
How wide is the nut on your 6774?
The nut should be 1 7/8".
Depending on how you measure it, it might measure funny.
OH, but if it is a 6774LX it should be 1 3/4" which also could measure funny.
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | No it's not a 6774LX. It's older.
It has an OP-X preamp.
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | I got one too.
The nut is a bit larger than 47mm.
So it is 1 7/8 inches, more-or-less.
(old photo... that brown blob near the neck is a tuner, long since removed) |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | arthurseery - 2015-03-11 6:02 PM
I got one too.
The nut is a bit larger than 47mm.
So it is 1 7/8 inches, more-or-less.
(old photo... that brown blob near the neck is a tuner, long since removed)
Wow! You never cease to amaze me OMA! I suspect that a list of the O and A guitars that you haven't owned would be shorter than those you've owned and loved.
But more importantly, how does the 6774 compare to your 1114?
ps Thanks for the metric measurement, but I'm old enough to well remember feet, inches and fractions of inches. So now I'm bilingual! |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | BanjoJ - 2015-03-11 1:16 AM
But more importantly, how does the 6774 compare to your 1114?
The 1114 has a deep bowl and a nice sound.
The 6774 has a more comfortable bowl, a nice sound, and it plugs-in.
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| But more importantly, how does the 6774 compare to your 1114? The 1114s/1614s are significantly heavier than the 6774. The 1114s/1614s also differ on the following: significantly "thicker" necks with a different profile, necks are glossy instead of satin, 1/4" jack is at back of guitar instead of side like 6774. Obviously different pre-amps, too. I am guessing shipping b/t US and Australia is cost-prohibitive for you but just for a frame of reference, the OP Pro studio is $350 USD installed on the 1114, meaning that this includes routing the bridge for the wider saddle pickup. Guessing that the 1614 conversion might be cheaper? OMA, thanks for the vote of confidence in the ascending value of the 1114s/1614s. Since I now have 3 of them, guess I can go ahead and plan my retirement? :-) I love Ovations as much/more than anyone but I don't see them as a brand becoming serious collectibles with correspondingly high values, with possibly some rare exceptions. But I do see them as an incredible utility value in the marketplace. And as long as the 1114s/1614s can be bought in the typically $200-$500 range here in the US, I'll probably buy a few more as they spring up from time to time because it's cheaper to have a backup with a carastrophic failure on one as opposed to having a repair done. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | I don't play my 77 1614 as much as I used to when I just played finger style stuff. It used to be the guitar I played every day. Now when I take it down to play, it still makes me smile. It's got a slight bit of wear on the frets, but otherwise it's in perfect shape for a guitar that's almost 40. And the sound is pure Ovation. |
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Location: Jet City | Reasley, are you speaking of your 6774LX or a 6774 like Banjo's? |
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| damon67 - 2015-03-11 12:00 PM Reasley, are you speaking of your 6774LX or a 6774 like Banjo's? Yes, I''m talking about the 6774LX which looks exactly like the 6774 in Banjo's picture, including the OP-X pre-amp. I'm pretty sure that the one in his picture is a 6774LX, too, though I could be wrong. I've already been wrong once in this thread to my great benefit, though, because I now know that I can go ahead and retire on the proceeds of the eventual sale of my three rapidly-appreciating 1114s/1614s because OMA told me so. :-) |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | damon67 - 2015-03-11 7:00 PM
CanterburyStrings - 2015-03-10 4:36 PM I don't know why they didn't stick with that. I had the Al DiMeola... I was unemployed... sumthin had to give.
What I meant was why didn't OVATION stick with the OP50. I've only seen it on that Legend I bought from you and one other guitar. It sounds SO good, I would've thought they'd have used it on everything. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | 6774
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Location: Jet City | Reasley, the 6774LX came with an OP-Pro
Either you don't have an LX, or your LX doesn't have an OP-X, or something completely odd is happening... especially since the OP-X was a couple preamp versions prior to the LX coming out.
Have a close look at OMA's pics to figure out which guitar it is that you really have. In addition to the look, the LX has a sort of matte finish on the neck whereas the non-LX has an oil rubbed finish. I used to have the 6774 as well as an LX. |
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Location: Thredbo, NSW, Australia | It's great to be among such fine company in my love of Ovation wide-neck guitars.
Are there any recent models with a 1 7/8" nut? Or is the 6774 the last?
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| damon67 - 2015-03-11 3:25 PM Reasley, the 6774LX came with an OP-Pro Either you don't have an LX, or your LX doesn't have an OP-X, or something completely odd is happening... especially since the OP-X was a couple preamp versions prior to the LX coming out. Have a close look at OMA's pics to figure out which guitar it is that you really have. In addition to the look, the LX has a sort of matte finish on the neck whereas the non-LX has an oil rubbed finish. I used to have the 6774 as well as an LX. Thanks. Checked earlier tonight and mine says 6774 Folklore and it is a a 1996. It does have an OP-X preamp but I know that some also had OP-50s, I believe. Interesting that the model listing on this site doesn't distinguish between the 6774 and the 6774LX -- that's probably why I thiught that mine was/is? an LX because I thought that LX meant USA made, which I believe that mine is, with a 5 piece neck. Here's the link to the model ID page referenced above. Note that the 6774LX row specifies years as 1995--->, encompassing my guitar. http://www.ovationfanclub.com/megabbs/forums/thread-view.asp?tid=32476&posts=1&start=1 |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | If your Folklore rosette has weird flower petals on it, it is a 6774.
If your Folklore has a Tortoise-shell rosette, it is a 6774LX
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Location: Boise, Idaho | The LX neck and whatever else came with the LX designation came out in 2005. It was part of all the innovations that year like the contour bowl and lighter bracing. The 2005 Collector really showed off those innovations. It's hard to believe Ovation went from that high point to gone in 10 years. |
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Location: Jet City | Reasley - 2015-03-11 9:38 PM Here's the link to the model ID page referenced above.... I guarantee that's not the only error on that chart. BTW, I used to have one too. I found the nut to be a bit too wide for my taste. I prefer the 1 3/4" LX model 
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| Damon, I just got a Seagull Peppino Signature model and it has a 1.9" nut. I love it! Also,mmy tiny college daughter can play it well, too. If you want to hear a great pickup system, go to youtuve and type in "Peppino review" and click on the 3:27 review. Listen to the end where the guy mixes the internal mike with the under saddle in the empty nightclub-- incredible. Mine sounds just like that . . . |
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