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couchflyer
Posted 2008-02-06 10:17 PM (#56133)
Subject: 97 Collector thoughts


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Location: The State of Hockey
Hi all,

I am wondering what your experiences on the 1997 Collectors is. I am thinking/looking at a narrow neck.

Thanks in advance.
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-02-06 10:26 PM (#56134 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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Location: East Tennessee
Hi Couch,

A number of members,(myself included), have the 97 Collectors. They are a really unique guitar. :cool:

The wide neck,(1 7/8"0) seems to be preferred but the Narrow neck,(1 11/16" are nice also.

Usually the wide neck models will have a "W" at the end of the model #.

I've been using Silk & Steel strings on mine and love the way it sounds.
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Beal
Posted 2008-02-06 11:22 PM (#56135 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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Location: 6 String Ranch
Trader-Jim, you gonna explain the narrow neck?

They're great guitars, go for it.
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bauerhillboy
Posted 2008-02-07 6:56 AM (#56136 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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Location: Warren,Pa.
I have a narrow neck '97. Unique voice, very easy to play with the 12 fret narrow neck. The original electronics went bad in mine, so I installed an OpPro in it.

Not a lot of bass when you're playing unplugged...but enough, and the mids and highs are magical. This guitar sustains forever. Sometimes I use high-octave strings and it becomes a whole 'nother instrument altogether.

With the OpPro it sounds just like a large guitar when plugged in.

The case is a conversation piece all by itself...beautiful high-end TKL.

John <>{

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Tupperware
Posted 2008-02-07 7:53 AM (#56137 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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Location: Phoenix AZ
I'll echo what others said (said... said... said ... )

Definately Ovations "best" collectors guitar by my definition. Meaning that they tried something totally new, broke the mold (literally) and didn't roll it out in mass production later, thereby maintainiung the significance of the "collector".

I've long ago since sold mine, but it was a great guitar to play, extremely comfortable, nice sound for it's size, but ... the electronics truely sucked big time. I had my electronics replaced with FD14 straight out.

John is correct, the case was Ovations best ever. Same quality case that you get with Takamine, Martin, Collings ... not the cheap Ovation plastic crap.

Dave
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-02-07 9:01 AM (#56138 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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I love mine, in spite of what Beal called it because of it's "less than manly" neck. :rolleyes: I won't post the exact term he used....
It's a great little guitar with a very loud voice.

...and no, mine is not for sale.
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Patch
Posted 2008-02-07 10:54 AM (#56139 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent
I love mine. I particularly like it for alternate tunings.
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Slipkid
Posted 2008-02-07 11:10 AM (#56140 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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I never tried one before.
Now I want to.
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-02-07 11:36 AM (#56141 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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Location: Phoenix AZ
Originally posted by Slipkid:
I never tried one before.
Now I want to.
Brad, These small bodied (Parlor, 00, New Yawker, ...) guitars are very cool. They will not cut through the mix in a "jam" or anything like a dread or a deep bowl would but they are SUPER nice to play and have a very nice tone unlike anything else. And plug one in with good electronics and WOW, what a gigger. Go watch a James Taylor concert DVD.

I've got two of these type guitars (custom koa backed Martin 00, and a Tak koa backed EF417) and enjoy them both very much. You need to try one. The Ovation parlor is nice as well, although to be honest I found the ratio of bowl depth (mid) to body dimensions (parlor) to be somewhat uncomfortable to play sitting. But that's just me.

Interesting tidbit - about 5 or 6 years ago during that Grammy Awards the band "No Doubt" did a performance and the guitarist used a '97 Collectors !!!

Dave

Dave
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-02-07 11:37 AM (#56142 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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Brad, you owe it to yourself to try one. I had one, and sold it (go figure) and ended up buying another (from the same person I bought the first one from, he had two) and I don't think I'll part with this one.
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Stuart Miller
Posted 2008-02-07 11:49 AM (#56143 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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As Jim's "supplier" (twice!) I concur with every comment you read here. They are beautiful little guitars, tone wise and aesthetically too. The narrow neck is extremely comfortable for those of us who tend to drift towards a comfortable baseball grip left hand style! :)
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couchflyer
Posted 2008-02-07 6:54 PM (#56144 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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So is the narrow neck for steel strings and the wide neck for nylon?
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-02-07 7:02 PM (#56145 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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No. Both versions are steel strings.
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-02-07 7:12 PM (#56146 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
I don't think I'll part with this one.
Anybody want to do a search and see if TJ has ever said this before?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-02-07 8:15 PM (#56147 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
Originally posted by Trader Jim:
I don't think I'll part with this one.
Anybody want to do a search and see if TJ has ever said this before?
No need to search...... He Has. :D

I'm waiting for the CEO. :cool:
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-02-07 8:39 PM (#56148 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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I've changed my ways. :rolleyes: "turned over a new leaf" :eek: whatever... I'm just experimenting with cures for GAS, so far, no antidote, but I'm having fun trying. :p
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couchflyer
Posted 2008-02-09 4:30 PM (#56149 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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Trader, why are these guy picking on you?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-02-09 5:17 PM (#56150 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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Originally posted by couchflyer:
Trader, why are these guy picking on you?
Top Five Reasons For Picking On Trader Jim

5. Makes him think before trading away a great guitar. (Probably Not).

4. It reminds him just how lucky he is that Bonnie,(His SWMBO), doesn't mind. (Probably).

3. A reasonable way to increase our post counts.

2. He makes it so easy..


And finally.........


1. BECAUSE WE CAN!!!!
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-02-10 6:51 AM (#56151 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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I'm starting to get a complex. I've actually owned one guitar I have now for almost a year. (about 7 months ;) )
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couchflyer
Posted 2008-02-10 3:55 PM (#56152 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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"Because we can" that is a tough one to argue.

Jim can you put that guitar away for five months and then you would have one for a year?


-back to the 97 collectors what is wrong with the electronics?
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-02-10 4:59 PM (#56153 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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Originally posted by couchflyer:

Jim can you put that guitar away for five months and then you would have one for a year?
If it is the CEO send it to me and I'll make sure you don't sell it. :D Plus you need to get that guitar out of the high humidity of South Florida.

couchflyer, there isn't really anything wrong with the electronics that I have found. I would prefer the Stacked tone/volume or the two knob control than the stealth style.
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eddie slinger
Posted 2008-03-07 10:10 PM (#56154 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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I have a '97, I believe it to have the slightly smaller neck profile. This one is perfect. I got it from Haight Ashbury Music late 2006. This one had hung almost untouched in the store for almost 10 years.( these folks are very strict about customers picking up guitars GC style.) It was sent back to Ovation to have the electronics fixed, it was cutting in and out.
They also put real ebony buttons on the tuners because the plastic had cracked open.I removed the shim under the saddle and when it was back at Ovation I requested the nut to be lowered a bit so it plays as fast as you want. You could not find a scratch on this. #317. The case is mint as well. Extra lights and it sounds very very good. It's a bit tricky to hold but one can work that out.
The Ebony Rosette knocks me out.12 frets to the body is a cool feature.
I ended up with it because they have a store credit only policy and I had returned a new Godin. As soon as I tried the Ovation I wanted it. I play it once in a while . It is in mint condition.

Just thought I would add my Ovation story. This the only one I have ever owned.
Think I'll play it now.

Cheers
Eddie
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Capo Guy
Posted 2008-03-07 10:25 PM (#56155 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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There is a 97 Collectors in the store a few miles from me.

Over 10 years old and I think I'm one of the few that has played it. When I wanted to plug it in the battery was dead so they put in a new battery and a fresh set of strings.

I got mine on eBay for a lot less than this one would cost although this one is new.
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muzza
Posted 2008-03-08 2:14 AM (#56156 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts



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Location: Sunshine State, Australia
Joined June '06, first post March '08. :eek:

You obviously put a lot of thought into your first post, Eddie.

I'll be lookin in September '09 for your second. :D
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NostrAdamas
Posted 2008-03-08 4:05 AM (#56157 - in reply to #56133)
Subject: Re: 97 Collector thoughts


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Location: chicago
Hey Dave, Dont you own the Steve Howe 0018 Martin? and isnt that a parlor of sorts? Jeff
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