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Location: Michigan | They could sure mix their vocals together better than than any band could ( except maybe CSN&Y ) but were they exceptional songrighters & spearheads to the Fantastic bands of the sixties/70's music or just surfing stuff??
What do you think ???????????GWB |
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | Brian was a genius. Emphasis on WAS.
But I am forever hopeful..... so is Mike Love |
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Location: Jet City | Count me out on the Beach Boys. Now the Ventures! They were great musicians.
Just personal preference.
I can't listen to more than 2 Beach Boys tunes in a row. I couldn't even put them in the same category with CSN&Y. CSN&Y were more hip and contemporary. The BBs were more barber shop quartet and good little white bread boys and girls at the beach.
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Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | If you want to fully appreciate
The Beach Boys - it's Pet Sounds after (years after) reading the Doonesbury Arc that ends with "Brian Wilson is God"....
It's true, whether he knows it or not.
I think he does.
....and if he's listening to his shrink/juju-guy/girl
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Location: NJ | incredible voices songs and arrangements.
brian is now very sad and mike love an arrogant basturd |
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Location: south east Michigan | Carl Wilson was the "George Harrison" of the Beach Boys. Underappreciated at the time. |
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Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | Relatively precise harmonies and adequate musicianship, plus increasing the tempo of the doo-wop sound and calling it the surf sound, at the right time, allowed them to be extremely successful, particularly on the west coast and in Japan. That was my time and my place. Brian was the genius behind the group, and many put him up in the Varsity class of pop composers. Dennis was barely garage band quality on the drums. One thing about the Beach Boys music . . . learn one lick and you pretty much can play them all. |
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Location: Cherry Hill, NJ | I used to think of the Beach Boys pretty much like Damon. That was until I listened to Pet Sounds. Unfortunately, the Beach Boys could not escape the mold they first cast, as a surfer group. Brian's writing and melodies were giant musical contributions, and as most know, Pet Sounds was the inspiration for the Beatles Sgt Pepper album. |
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Location: Isle of Man, UK | I don't think that there's any denying Brian Wilson's talent at writing, arranging and producing. I count myself very lucky that I got to see Brian Wilson in concert just last year.
When he walked on stage, it was like watching a tele that isn't quite tuned in. When he sat at the keyboard, he just seemed to be complete again. It seemed that he came into focus, and that he suddenly saw everything in focus. Cue two hours of absolutely wonderful music ranging from the surf tunes to the harmony laden ballads.
However, the musicians with him were absolutely brilliant, and I would suggest that it was better than watching the BB's themselves in concert. I would say that the success of the Beach Boys was due to whatever gift BW was blessed (or cursed, depending on your point of view) with. It's like he's a conduit from wherever this music is coming from.
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Location: Michigan | Unfortunitley thats the only thing I can remember in the Brian Wilson ( Brain Dead )interveiw was him slurrrring that out You Know Thaaaaat Paul Mcartney said Pet Sounds was his inspiration for the Sgt.Peppers albulm.
Poor Brain Wilson what a mess.
Does anyone know what happened to his Psychistrist Dr.Landi ? or something like that name? Did he ever busted for ruining his life and stealing his money and running his life into the ground.GWB |
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Location: chicago | Brian put out a fantastic solo record a few years back called your imagination that holds up real well.great harmonies good song writing and his voice sounds great.Jeff
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Location: Vermont USA | I still enjoy the Beach Boys and the Four Seasons, and just about anything Motown.
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Location: Nashville TN. | Thier stuff has stood the test of time |
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Location: Jet City | Well I'll wipe the slate clean and listen to Pet Sounds. The mainstream stuff has definitely soured me towards their stuff. I can't say I've heard it.
As for "Standing the test of time", I don't know about that. Can you really say they're as popular as Hendrix, Who, Zep, Stones, Beatles, and so many more? Sure BBs came before all those bands, but only by a couple years. I think their stuff has become quite forgettable comparatively.
As for "were they exceptional songrighters & spearheads to the Fantastic bands of the sixties/70's music". I think R&B and Blues were more of the inspiration for Rock music than the Surf stuff. Didn't know that about Sgt Peppers tho. The ENTIRE album was inspired by Pet Sounds?
I do love the surf guitar work of that era. I kind of lump all that Surf/Rockabilly/Country pickin' stuff in as cousins genre wise. Travis and Maphis kind of led the way to the rockabilly stuff like Larry Collins and Wanda Jackson which led into surf sounds of the Ventures and such. |
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Location: Copenhagen Denmark | ..standing drummer , lack of bass...."hang on to sloop john B " was okay... |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | I think of the Beach Boys more as a rite of musical passage in that you sorta had to get an album or two, play it a few times and then move on to bigger & better things...
(. . . much like the Beatles) |
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Wuss. |
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Location: Huntington Beach, CA | The Beach Boys represented clean-teen America. Could you ever imagine them doing drugs (even though they did)? That would be like Frankie Avalon and Annette Funichello on crack. Their opposite at the time was the Rolling Stones. Could you ever imagine them sober?
Some songs are brilliant thanks to BW and tight harmonies. Too syrupy for me and no challenge for a garage band musician so I moved on quickly. Those were good times though.
Don't they have a new album coming out? Dead Pet Sounds or something like that? Or BW's solo act... The Beach Boy. |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by Paulcc1:
I still enjoy the Beach Boys and the Four Seasons, and just about anything Motown.
Pauly Motown, not my style.
Beach Boys, relatively precise harmonies and adequate musicianship, (Quote Professor BB). .
Four Seasons, Great vocals and harmonies.
My 
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Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by Jeff W.:
Wuss. Punk. |
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Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | They were a garage band that made it really big.
As human beings, amateurs like the rest of us.
As musicians, at least at their peak, geniuses.
They were pathfinders who showed the way, and each of us (IMHO) have spent time (in the sense of learning at least a few of their songs) with them. Seriously, you spend time with Bo Diddley, Chuck Berry, the Beatles ... a few others, and these include the Beach Boys. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | I don't like them. Didn't then and don't now.
If I'd grown up in California at that time I'm sure it would be completely different. |
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Location: Tennessee | To answer the question -- No, no, and no. But they were something a lot more than that. As a kid who grew up in Southern California, the Beach Boys were pretty big. But the early stuff was already oldies by the time I became musically aware, but I really did appreciate some of the later albums. Friends is one of my Top 10 albums of all time ... I think BW was able to take the whole Pet Sounds production stuff to a whole new level. Then he crashed, and the others were left to pick up the pieces. Carl was able to show a whole new side to the Beach Boys with the Sunflower album, and of course Surf's Up was critically acclaimed, even with its unevenness. It's sort of like a Beatles thing ... you either like them when they were the mop tops or you like the post Revolver Beatles. There was definitely a genius to the Beach Boys, but not for the three things in the question. All those get you is a Vegas lounge gig. |
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Location: North Carolina | I saw them in 1969 and they were great. I was in a band that opened for the Band Calling Themselves The Beachboys in 1994 and I didn't hang around for their set. |
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ARE THE BEACH BOYS GREAT MUSICIANS,SONGWRITERS, OR SINGERS?
