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Location: Denver, CO | So laugh at my ineptitude and call me a moron now... Ok. Got it out of your system? Here's my question: I play an open G 300023. Sometimes I play what I call "contemporary," because a worship leader friend showed it to me and said a lot of people are using it: 3X0033. Recently, I have been working on a new song with the 5th string B added: 320033. Does that chord have a name? Or is it just another voicing for G? How would you notate it on a chord chart or lead sheet? |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Don't you mean 320003 for an open G? My guitar teacher uses 320033 all the time and calls it a G, maybe just because he knows I'm a moron when it comes to this stuff and all those numbers and letters go right over my head. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | In a lot of the music we use at church, that chord is labelled G/D. |
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Location: Utah | The 3X0033 is a Gsus. It has no 3rd in it, so it is a "suspended" chord which has no flavor or identity. The 320033 is a G chord without any special name that I know of. |
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Location: SoCal | No, it would be more a Gadd5 as you're adding the 5th note on the G scale (a D note). A Gsus adds the C note on the B string. I think...... |
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Location: SoCal | patchmcg - 2013-09-18 11:41 AM
In a lot of the music we use at church, that chord is labelled G/D.
A G/D would be a G chord with a D as the bass note, not a D within the chord. xx0433 or xx0003. Also known as slash chords. The first letter is the chord, the second is the bass note played with the chord.
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Location: Boise, Idaho | And who says I waste my time on this board? I've been meaning to ask my music teacher what those slashes, sus and add meant, but I keep forgetting. He has seen my eyes glaze over when he talks about that stuff. |
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Location: Flahdaw | I play LOTS of different G's, but the sound has to fit the song. Usually 320033, but if I need it, 320013. (And I'm usually hammering the 2nd and 3rd strings, 2nd fret) |
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Location: Denver, CO | I had thought to label it a G/B but was told that was wrong. Yes, Mark I meant 320003. Lysdexia again. So Bob, you just label that as G? I know what you mean about church music. Gets too complicated for me sometimes. I often have to play around with a song until I find which root chords work and just eliminate a lot of the hammers-on and pull-offs and adds. Okay, I get it. Patch your statement seems logical, but I've also always been told the /note indicates an added bass pitch...
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Location: the BIG Metropolis of TR | It's used in Contemporary Christian Music......It's called the Gsus (Jesus) chord......
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Location: Flahdaw | dwg preacher - 2013-09-18 6:48 PM
So Bob, you just label that as G?
For ME it's a G. It starts OFF as a G, that I might spruce up as needed. To me it's like English with a British accent or a southern accent....same words underneath, just different inflections. |
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Location: Seymour, Tennessee | I play G like that most of the time, I like the way it sounds better than the conventional G. I had always thought it was a G/D too. Love to learn new stuff... |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | immoody - 2013-09-18 3:00 PM
patchmcg - 2013-09-18 11:41 AM
In a lot of the music we use at church, that chord is labelled G/D.
A G/D would be a G chord with a D as the bass note, not a D within the chord.
I actually knew that, but most of the printed music we have does label the chord that way. Not that it's the be all of music theory or anything.
I actually use that fingering quite often in my songs, and usually juxtapose it against the standard G and its variations.
I did try to run it through various chord generators, and they all labelled it as simply "G". |
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Location: NW Washington State | 320003 is GBDGBG
320033 is GBDGDG so all three notes are there with no extras. I'd call it a G.
3x0033 is GxDGDG so there are only root and fifth notes. I'd call it a G5 and think of it as a version of the "power chord". Could be major or minor.
320013 is GBDGCG so the C is an added fourth. I'd call it a Gsus4. There is some tension between the 5th string B and the 2nd string C, but they're far apart. There are other versions of a sus4 that would leave the B out.
I like to play a G as 3x543xx. Easy on my weak fingers and moveable.
hmmm, I wonder if I've got that right. I don't usually think of chords as a string of fret numbers, and seeing all those letters run together is making my eyes bug out.
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Location: Utah | I think a suspended chord is simply one with no 3rd, thus it is neither major nor minor. So a Gsus would have no B note. 330033 would be Gsuspended, or Gsus.
If the chord has a C in it, it would be an added 4th. So if the chord were 320013 it would be Gadd4. If the chord were 330033 it would be Gsusadd4, shortened to Gsus4.
330013 would also be a form of Gsus4.
Then we could have a Gsus2, played 300033 or xx0233.
I'm afraid to ask my jazz violin friend who surely knows how all this works, but she'd give me a 30 minute explanation leaving me even more confused.
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Location: SoCal | Google guitar chords Gsus and see what you get. I'm starting to think it's really silly to sit and debate this stuff..... |
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Location: NW Washington State | My interpretation is that a suspended chord adds an extra note- but not the typical seventh- most often a fourth. Sometimes the third is left out and it's still called a sus4.
I think the chords with only root and fifth are usually called "5", like G5. But they're usually the simple two or three note shapes that work well with heavy distortion.
So I don't agree on the terminology. But they are all useful chords that you could play in place of the old standard open G.
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | A Gsus4 is actually the chord that you add the "A" and the "C". A G with another D added is a G add 5. James Taylor prefers this chord over the
"G" as it gets rid of that pesky 3 note. It does sound better with the 5. |
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Location: Tennessee | Your left hand is what you know. Your right hand is who you are.
I don't know much but I sure love to play. |
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Location: Denver, CO | FlySig - 2013-09-18 9:40 PM I think a suspended chord is simply one with no 3rd, thus it is neither major nor minor. So a Gsus would have no B note. 330033 would be Gsuspended, or Gsus.. That helps explain another confusion I had: My chord chart lists all sus chords as sus4. I assume that means this particular editor added the 4th to replace the 3rd, and what he failed to note is that there is actually a sustained chord that is NOT a sus4, within each grouping? It seems to me (and I can point directly at myself here) that we create a lot of confusion when we, through "self-taught," or "jazz influenced," or "classically trained," or whatever background, we begin to blur the lines of appropriate or standardized notation. That appears evident by the discussion instigated by a simple "what's this called" question. Anyhoo, I'm enjoying the conversation, and learning a lot. Incidentally, and totally off-topic, I just found out Gungor's moving in to our rehearsal complex. I did meet Michael one time, but it will be cool to have a group of that kind of stature nearby. Maybe something'll rub off?!
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Location: Upper Left USA | Its all relative... I would call it a Gsus because I would play it along with Csus, F/Dsus and Em+ which works for my mind. Example: 320033 x32033 022033 200233-2 It could also be confused as an anti-social commentary but that has never been my intention. 
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Location: Suisun City, Ca | mymartind35 - 2013-09-19 9:22 AM A Gsus4 is actually the chord that you add the "A" and the "C". A G with another D added is a G add 5. James Taylor prefers this chord over the "G" as it gets rid of that pesky 3 note. It does sound better with the 5. I think the Gsus4 adds a 4th - "C", a Gsus2 would add a 2nd - "A" Do that with a D chord all the time, A chord too. Even E sometimes I always thought the 320033 was a G add5 |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | stonebobbo - 2013-09-20 10:12 AM
Your left hand is what you know. Your right hand is who you are.
I LOVE that!! Is that original or did you hear it someplace? Either way, it is more true than anything I've ever heard. May I use it?
Also, Dawg, the "sus" is short for suspended, not for sustained. The 2 or the 4 is "suspended" within the chord, and it replaces the 3rd. |
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Location: SoCal | MWoody - 2013-09-19 10:37 AM
Its all relative... I would call it a Gsus because I would play it along with Csus, F/Dsus and Em+ which works for my mind. Example: 320033 x32033 022033 200233-2 It could also be confused as an anti-social commentary but that has never been my intention.
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Modified G chord: what's it called?
