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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 1281 Location: Ohio | Those of you that are playing in public in a duo or trio setting? What are your favorite opening numbers? How many songs do you normally play in a set? | ||
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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 1281 Location: Ohio | WOW 53 members read this and no one wants to give up thier secrets? lol | ||
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Joined: October 2012 Posts: 349 Location: Denver, CO | Hey, Stephen. Maybe all the "real" musicians (haha) were busy that day? Anyway, I'm not gonna be a lot of help, as I either perform one-man-band style or with a full rock band, AND my sets are about 99% originals, but... I always open with something loud and gritty. Uptempo is usually a good bet, but even a moderate tempo song with some cajones will get their attention and get their toes tapping. I don't like to open a set with some long, intricate instrumental, and I don't like to introduce myself or the band until later in the set; I just like to walk right out onto the stage and slap 'em in the face. All the nicy-nice stuff can come later. Depending on set length: 9 songs with no chatter can make a tight 45 minute set, but you can stretch 7 songs into that same 45 minutes. Do ypu have a jam-oriented instrumentalist? Do you like everything neat and tidy and comments quick and to the point, 11 songs will get you an hour, if you are doing basic covers. A typical 1 hour set for me is 10-11 songs. What's your style? Where will you be gigging? What's your audience like? | ||
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6995 Location: Jet City | Sorry, just don't have any firm answers. First songs depend on my mood usually, or sometimes it'll be all the songs we do in dropped D so I can retune at the break, and our songs vary in length from 3 minutes to 10 depending on the song, so a 45 minute set could be 6 songs or 10 depending. | ||
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Joined: April 2010 Posts: 823 Location: sitting at my computer | nikon4004 - 2013-04-30 2:08 PM WOW 53 members read this and no one wants to give up thier secrets? lol Think nothin' of it nikon... it just means 53 of us lookie Lous either aren't playing out in public or... we're still trying to figure out IF we've got ANY "secrets" to give up! ???????? | ||
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4535 Location: Flahdaw | nikon4004 - 2013-04-30 2:08 PM WOW 53 members read this and no one wants to give up thier secrets? lol Some of us thought you were posting YOUR opening numbers... | ||
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4535 Location: Flahdaw | darkbarguitar - 2013-04-30 8:30 PM nikon4004 - 2013-04-30 2:08 PM WOW 53 members read this and no one wants to give up thier secrets? lol Some of us thought you meant you were posting YOUR opening numbers... | ||
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 5881 Location: Colorado Rocky Mountains | I'm with the Preacher on this one, both figuratively and literally. Slap 'em in the face right off. You have only a few minutes to make a first impression, so don't waste any time doing so. | ||
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | We build our sets inside-out. Best song last, second best first, third to second last, etc. Then adjust so no key is played twice in a row. Then twiddle a bit so it builds like a play; establish the opening act setting build slow to a peak, then release and slow down a bit, then build again to a strong finish. Then forget all that on the night and just jam for 10 minutes while the bass player changes a broken string mid-set. | ||
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | fillhixx We build our sets inside-out. Best song last, second best first, third to second last, etc. Then adjust so no key is played twice in a row. . perfect | ||
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | ......did I mention? I'm the bass player ![]() | ||
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4832 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | . Edited by fillhixx 2013-05-02 11:38 PM | ||
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | I usually play original music | ||
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Joined: August 2005 Posts: 616 Location: cincinnati, ohio | First off, it depends on the audience and the venue. I play solo, and also in duo and band configurations. I play a lot of places frequented by Baby Boomers, which is perfect for me since I’m a Boomer myself. My playlist is loaded up with easily-recognizable classic rock and some lesser-known but no less valuable “album cuts” by well-known artists. In a club or bar, I usually come out swinging – something like “Take It Easy” by Eagles or “Sundown” by Gordon Lightfoot. Those are my two most frequently used leadoff tunes. In a restaurant setting, might start with something more mellow like James Taylor’s “Something In the Way She Moves” or "Shower the People." I usually play four sets of 45 to 50 minute with 10 to 15 minutes off between sets. HOWEVER – that being said, if you’ve got momentum going and the crowd is with you, the last thing you want to do is kill that momentum by taking a break – especially if they’re putting a lot of Dead Presidents in your tip jar! I have been known to play all night without a break; now that they took my prostate out I can go all night without having to take a whiz – lol! ![]() You have to learn to read your crowd too – see what’s working and what isn’t. First set is usually “anything goes” – except for trying to hit them right between the eyes out of the chute. After that I usually try to start the set with mellower stuff, then accelerate, getting rowdier and rowdier until I’m finishing up the set with something like Mellencamp’s “Pink Houses.” Anyway, I’ve been doing it this way for 42 years and it still works. I intend to keep doing it until they tell me to go home or laugh me off the stage! ![]() Edited by rick endres 2013-05-03 10:35 AM | ||
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | Rick... if I may ask... In those 3 hours or more... do you ever repeat a song? . On a related tangent... We played a party gig and did about 40 songs. In hind site, we're wondering if that was "too much". | ||
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6995 Location: Jet City | We do 35-45 songs if we're booked for an entire eve. I think you were spot on. | ||
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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 1281 Location: Ohio | Thanks. We will be playing at a winerey for dinner, 7-10PM Outdoors if the weather is good. Management asked for all covers so that is no problem and they want stuff that people know. So, John Denver, Jim Croce, Doors,Eagles, Lightfoot and that genre will be it. 2 guitars and vocals and MAYBE a guest female vocalitst for a few songs if she can make it,. | ||
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Mark in Boise![]() |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759 Location: Boise, Idaho | Sounds like my kind of music. Wish I could be there. The opportunity to play that kind of music to an appreciative audience is pretty limited here. | ||
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4535 Location: Flahdaw | Yeah, I would really enjoy playing at a winery. | ||
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![]() Joined: April 2004 Posts: 13303 Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | darkbarguitar - 2013-05-03 3:05 PM Yeah, I would really enjoy playing at a winery.
hmmmmmm, I bet you would. | ||
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Darkbar![]() |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4535 Location: Flahdaw | Some of the song lyrics might get mumbled or forgotten | ||
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | Something with a good groove. Nothing too fast, but just something that makes people bounce up and down a little bit to get them into the mood. It's good if it's recognizable ... I'll do an original if its a place where people sorta know it, otherwise it's a strong cover people can get into. A female deejay once told me you gotta build your set list like you're making love. Start with something that gets them going with your rhythm and makes them want more, speed it up for a while, bring it down for a little intimate slow dance, bring it back up for a bit, another little bit of slow grooving, bring it up again, and then finish it up with all you can muster. And as Rick pointed out, if they are grooving with you, do not take a break. | ||
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Mark in Boise![]() |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759 Location: Boise, Idaho | stonebobbo - 2013-05-03 4:16 PM A female deejay once told me you gotta build your set list like you're making love. . . .And as Rick pointed out, if they are grooving with you, do not take a break. So, Bobbo, your sets are about 10 minutes long? | ||
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Mark in Boise![]() |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12759 Location: Boise, Idaho | darkbarguitar - 2013-05-03 4:02 PM Some of the song lyrics might get mumbled or forgotten I can't remember the lyrics when I'm sober. | ||
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | Mark in Boise - 2013-05-03 3:31 PM stonebobbo - 2013-05-03 4:16 PM A female deejay once told me you gotta build your set list like you're making love. . . .And as Rick pointed out, if they are grooving with you, do not take a break. So, Bobbo, your sets are about 10 minutes long?
Wrong unit of measurement, but aside from that, correct. ;-) | ||
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