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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-03-04 12:17 AM (#51623)
Subject: IS THERE ALOT OF TALENT PLAYING THE TAMBORINE ???


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How do you rate a Tamborine player?
Are there really good ones and really bad ones?
Is there a talent to playing one?
Can you name me a great player who is known for his Tamborine playing ability?
Does anyone give lessons to learn how to play this thing?
It has always amazed me that a Tamborine seems to be one of the easiest things to play and you dont have to practice it to much to become a good player.
I think it is a VERY COOL PLAYER.GWB
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-04 12:24 AM (#51624 - in reply to #51623)
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It must still be cold in Michigan.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-04 12:33 AM (#51625 - in reply to #51623)
Subject: Re: IS THERE ALOT OF TALENT PLAYING THE TAMBORINE ???



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Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
Can you name me a great player who is known for his Tamborine playing ability?

Does anyone give lessons to learn how to play this thing?
Davey Jones, Susan Dey, Josie from the Pussycats... The list is endless.

Maybe try Berklee Tambourine School for lessons?
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-03-04 12:50 AM (#51626 - in reply to #51623)
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:D Mark I am keeping myself very warm with a little (BIG) VO & Water right now.
How do you think I come up with this stuff?
You just wait until Global Warming hits you and we will be Snow Sking on the beaches of LA.GWB
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-03-04 12:53 AM (#51627 - in reply to #51623)
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:o Good Night & Over & Out . GWB :o
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-04 12:53 AM (#51628 - in reply to #51623)
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Here's my .02 FRN;

I think a judicious tambo can add and fill in with some great accents. In fact when my first Grandbaby was born I went out and bought a tambo and dual bongos to tease the DNA. Now all three GBs head straight to the percussions when they arrive.

Two songs that I can think of offhand that accents the tambo without being overwhelming are 'Gold Dust Women' live and 'You've Got to Hide Your Love Away'. Both on 'You Tube'.

I also think there may be some lessons on 'YT' that may assist ya. Just do a tambourine search there.

If ya want to see some tambo talent, seek out the Latino/Spanish musical postings. Also check out some middle eastern music.

Does it take talent? In my opinion, just an 'ear' for rhythm and composition.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2008-03-04 5:19 AM (#51629 - in reply to #51623)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:



Does it take talent? In my opinion, just an 'ear' for rhythm and composition.
I guess that's why drummers are a dime a dozen.
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Paul Templeman
Posted 2008-03-04 5:54 AM (#51630 - in reply to #51623)
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Check out Steve Amedee with the SubDudes. He developed a bunch of techniques to play a tambourine and he pretty much uses it in place of a snare.

The snare sound on these clips is actually a tambourine being hit with a drum brush. Check at about 3:18 on the first clip

subdudes 1

SubDudes 3

SubDudes 2
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alpep
Posted 2008-03-04 7:28 AM (#51631 - in reply to #51623)
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you guys are all wrong

Joel Gion from the Brian JOnestown massacre and the Dillentantes he is the MASTER.

Nico was not bad in for all tomorrow's parties

jagger also does a good job

jim capaldi from traffic
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Beal
Posted 2008-03-04 7:37 AM (#51632 - in reply to #51623)
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Capaldi for sure.
Any street guy that can keep it shaking and not let the money fall out.......
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bvince
Posted 2008-03-04 7:58 AM (#51633 - in reply to #51623)
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I think the tamborine can get some really cools sounds and accents in the hands of someone with creativity and a good feel for rhythm and percussion, but in the hands of someone who just wants to shake something the results can be disasterous. I guess that holds true with any hand rhythm instrument. Anyone with a bit of natural percussion talent can get good sounds from just about anything. Lessons? ... I don't think so.
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-04 8:50 AM (#51634 - in reply to #51623)
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Phil Collins used t'do a sort of "taranella" with a tambourine on "I know What I Like" during Genesis live shows that was pretty entertaining.

Is that on that "Three Sides Live" video, Dave???
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-03-04 9:02 AM (#51635 - in reply to #51623)
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Originally posted by cliff:
Is that on that "Three Sides Live" video, Dave???
Unfortunately, no. There's some photos in the Armando Gallo book of the bruises on Phils legs from playing the thing.

Dave
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Tupperware
Posted 2008-03-04 9:12 AM (#51636 - in reply to #51623)
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By the way, there is a Tamborine Players Hall Of Fame. No Kidding. Found this on the web ...

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1. Stevie Nicks
Ms. Nicks has had such a long and devoted association with the tambourine that many have suggested she deserves ALL the slots on the list. See also subcategory 3: the dark side of tambourining, ex-cheerleaders as tambourine players.

2. Davy Jones (of the Monkees)
Many tambourine critics consider him the quintessential tambourinist (or simply the world's greatest tambourine player), however, we think that Ms. Nicks makes the case for her supremacy without any additional commentary on our part.

3. Tracy Partridge
Some consider her the patron saint of tambourine players. We would agree if it weren’t for the fact that The Partridge Family didn’t really exist (you would think that would be a plus but our slavish devotion to Ms.Nicks forces us to lower the fictional Ms. Partridge's ranking).

4. Linda McCartney (Wings)RIP
(see also subcategory:wives of lead singers)

5. Valerie of Josie and the Pussycats
Frequently called "The Smart One" in the Pussycat group. We sort of think of her as The Emma Peel of the Tambourine. Sadly in the current film version of the comic they have decided to use a guitar, a bass, and a drum, so the genius of the guitar, tambourine, and drum sound will be forever a distant memory.

6. Liam Gallagher
Read the link, and feel bad for the tambourine.

7. Juan Cervantes
Full disclosure: I don’t know who he is. However, we find that tambourineheads have mentioned Tambourine Music of Central America, 1994 as a seminal work in the tambourine oeuvre

8. Joan Osborne
See subcategory: another hippie chick lead singer with a tambourine. Dare we say you haven't lived until you've seen her dance around on stage, sing, and slap her tambourine silly. You want to help her find the beat, but enthusiasm counts for a lot here.

9. Patty Scialfa(E Street Band)
We might point out that Ms. Scialfa is a talented musician and vocalist and those who have seen the E Street Band live have mentioned to us that in her husband’s support band (see Linda McCartney) she has sung backup and played guitar but see the video of "Glory Days" for her true talent... tambourinist (not a slight remember we love the instrument).

10. Clarence Clemmons (E Street Band)
While Patty has only occasionally played tambourine in her husband's band we must look to the person to whom Bruce has had his longest and most intimate relationship for true tambourine greatness. When the Big Man lays down his sax (which happens a lot more often than it should - something we'd like to say about his boss's harmonica) he never stops giving the goods during a stage show - he has an arsenal of tambourines from the crescent half-tamb to the really really big tambourine. He can be joyous, solemn, or playful and still turn in a professional performance. A tambourine hall-of-famer!

11. Kenny Aronoff
Extremely well traveled session drummer who has played drums and tambourine on lps by such luminaries as Stevie Nicks (what she doesn't play the tambourine tracks on her own records?), John Cougar Mellencamp, Bonnie Raitt, and many many others.

12. Natalie Maines (Dixie Chicks)
Live show reviews have mentioned that Ms.Maines uses her tambourine as a lasso (she must be double jointed or something as such a move seems to defy logic) AND has collaborated with Stevie Nicks on her upcoming Trouble in Shangri-La lp which we can only hope will feature either a tambourine duet or dueling tambourines. Oh the possibilities are chilling!

13. Roger Daltry
Tambourine smasher extraordinaire of The WHO

14. Steven Tyler
Livs dad and other stuff and another important thing: he is Livs dad.

15. Ian Astbury (The Cult)

16. Robert Plant (Led Zep and solo work)
On his Fate of Nations album Plant notes in the lyrics of "Down to the Sea" that "Life is a big tambourine/ The more that you shake it the better it seems/ This is my wisdom - these are just words from the sea." Right on, Robbie.

17. Mick Jagger

18. Richard Ashcroft (ex Verve now solo)
He is known to improvise on the instrument and use tambourine loops in recordings and the video for "Cmon People" (downloadable at the above-listed link)features extremely moving and melancholic footage of a tambourine falling to the floor that we applaud heartily and should actually move him up on the list but that would mean that there is some kind of heirarchy to the names on this list and some kind of heirarchy would imply some kind of order and really there is none (fooled ya? right...)

19.Prince
Has a song called "Tambourine" which he plays all by his lonesome.

20. Kim Gordon
Plays tambourine in the Lucky Sperms

21. We’re pretty sure someone in ABBA
Hence feel the beat of the tambourine

22. Phil Collins

23. Neko Case (of Neko Case and her Boyfriends)
On her lp Furnace Room Lullaby lp she recieves a tambourine credit. She is also an accomplished drummer and loves Sheila E. What else can I say except that we feel we must divulge our prejudice here: we love her.

24. Steve Shelley (Sonic Youth)
Drummer who is known to place and strike a tambourine on his snare.

25. The drumming twin of Blonde Redhead, Simone
Ditto what was said about Steve Shelley's drumming technique

26.Sylvester
We don't know for sure that he played tambourine but Sandra Bernhard's monologue over "Mighty Real" in Without You, I'm Nothing mentions disco dancing with a tambourine and back in the day who didn't go to the disco without poppers, a pair of way tight levis, a hanky in your back pocket and shake their tambourine while they grooved out to "Mighty Real"?

27. Linda Thompson (of Richard and Linda Thompson)
See that subcategory, spouses of the singer

28.Corin Tucker
On Sleater-Kinney's cover of "Rock Lobster" she plays tambourine. We always knew she was way cool, now she is a Tambourine Smashing Goddess.

29. Aldo Nova
Bad 80s synth pop haircut nightmare currently has a career as session musician who plays many an instrument including the hallowed tambourine.

30. Van Morrison
We have to admit we can't find a reference on the web to him playing the tambourine but we have been told by fans that have seen him live that he has done so. If you are troubled by the tangential relationship to the tambourine, then substitute Natalie Merchant (aka subcategory 2: another hippie chick with a tambourine) because we have seen her tambourineshake with our own eyes and she is an even more severely beat challenged dancer than Joan Osborne so we feel for her.

31. Yoko Ono
See Subcategory 1: spouses of the singer. How scary that John and Paul's respective spouses played the same instruments in bands fronted by their hubbies! In the D.A Pennebaker film Sweet Toronto which features the Plastic Ono band Yoko sings and plays tambourine. What I wouldn't pay to see her play tambourine in a bed-in. Now that would be ART!

32. Sonny Bono
When he worked for Phil Spector he used to love to sit in with the percussion section and play tambourine. However, alas poor Sonny couldn't keep time and was usually told he had a phone call so that they could pull him from the studio and record. See subcategory 1, part b: spouse of singer, bend the gender and poof, our first male mate tambourinist even if he was a failed tambourine player, kudos for trying. And oh yeah, Cher played tambourine as well.

33."Mrs.Malkmus"
A recent note from our man in Minneapolis noted that during the Stephen Malkmus solo tour stop there, "Mrs. Malkmus" played tambourine for about ¾ of the set or so. He pointed out that even when tambourine was not called for, "Mrs. Malkmus" was trying to fit it into the song. I suppose that she might be suffering from Richard Ashcroft jealousy. There seems to be a tambourine moment happening on the indie/alt rock scene and we are here to be your guide...not just a hippie thing anymore...no no no. "Mrs. Malkmus" is Stephen Malkmus's long time companion, and her real name is Heather Lorimer or Heather Larimer spelled both ways in literature about the band. She is referred to as a writer in many interviews but we are not sure what she has written. Upon searching we found that a book entitled Louis Wain: King of the Cat Artists was published in 1982 by one Heather Larimer. We are pretty certain that is not the same Ms. Larimer, but who can resist copy like "Edwardian Cat Art Historian Turns Tambourinist"? Not moi. See Subcategories 1: mate of lead singer and Subcategory 3: former cheerleader turned tambourine player.

34. Peter Zaremba
Singer and tambo smasher for the Fleshtones. The pioneer of the current wave of indie rock tambo players. And he's from NJ!

35. Hope Sandoval(formerly of Mazzy Star, currently of Hope Sandoval and the Warm Inventions)
Chicago critic Jim DeRogatis wrote the following about Mazzy Star live: "the only hint of any action on-stage comes when Sandoval gets pissy about something--poor monitors, noisy crowd, improper alignment of the stars--and petulantly throws her tambourine to the floor." Our first tambourine DIVA.

36. Lisa Kekaula of the Bellrays
A soul shouter who has been singled out not only for her voice but for "furiously banging and bruising her body with a tambourine." MC5 comparisons float around the Bellrays...but we say Kekaula should be considered the Iggy Pop of the Tambourine.

37. Big Star
The tambourine track in the song "Try Again" is poignant, there is some great tambourine playing throughout their songs, but I can't find the person to credit for it. Alex Chilton's first gig as the Box Tops singer associates him with another notable tambourine moment: "Fields of Clover," a song that sort of spurts into motion after a few spastic tambo gushes. We also found that Alex Chilton himself has played tambourine and sang back up for Tav Falco's Panter Burns. So we gonna spread a few tambourine props all around.

38. Linda Ronstadt
We were somewhere near Bakersfield when the drugs took hold...oh wait that is the beginning of Fear and Loating in Las Vegas, nevermind, but it was Bakersfield where fear and loathing tambo stylee comes real and the harsh black heart of a tambourinists' underbelly is exposed: Ms. Ronstadt, a candidate for anger management rehab has kicked a door and broke her leg, and heaved a wax candle at a loudmouthed customer at the Troubadour (she was in the audience, not onstage), took her tambourine and threw it frisbee style into the audience at the conclusion of "Silver Threads, Golden Needles" at a man who had annoyed her by taking flash photographs after she asked that flash pictures not be taken. "That was for the asshole who keeps taking flash pictures," she said. Umm...okay, where's Jerry Brown when you need him?

39. PJ Harvey
Our Minneapolis correspondent sent us a note that during her most recent show there she did a song called "Gypsy Landslide" where she put down her guitar and picked up a tambourine. We can only think that this must be an hommage to Ms. Nicks. And that my tambourine pals takes us back to where we began...a complete tambourine circle.
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an4340
Posted 2008-03-04 12:47 PM (#51637 - in reply to #51623)
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It depends. There's thump / rattle and then there are the variations. I'm a thump rattler.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-04 1:37 PM (#51638 - in reply to #51623)
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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
I guess that's why drummers are a dime a dozen.
Hey, a drummer has a lot more to deal with than just 'jingle, jangle'! A good drummer is priceless. I wasn't putting 'em down...
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stonebobbo
Posted 2008-03-04 5:36 PM (#51639 - in reply to #51623)
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I always thought Ray Cooper did a pretty good job with the tambo, and other assorted percussion bits. Ringo knew how to get them int the song without being overbearing. I have several, but you've got to have the right song to use them. Eggz, on the other hand ...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-03-04 5:54 PM (#51640 - in reply to #51623)
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There's a guy who played a lot of tambo on the Concert for George dvd (also played percussion). Clifford told me who he is once, but I can't remember. Real wild man.....
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-03-04 5:54 PM (#51641 - in reply to #51623)
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Holy Crap Tuppy. Did you actually take the time to write that. I know I took the time to read it.
Between you and I alone we killed the better part of an hour.

Why did I read most of this thread??? Why am I typing this message???? I must be loosing it!!!! I have perfectly good pins I could be sticking in my eyes.

Tamborines?? Jesus you guys really are a funny bunch.
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-04 6:02 PM (#51642 - in reply to #51623)
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". . There's a guy who played a lot of tambo on the Concert for George dvd (also played percussion). Clifford told me who he is once, but I can't remember. Real wild man . ."

Ray Cooper.

PhenOMenal percussionist!
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Waskel
Posted 2008-03-04 6:07 PM (#51643 - in reply to #51623)
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Originally posted by Northcountry:
Did you actually take the time to write that.
Never write what you can copy and paste.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-03-04 6:13 PM (#51644 - in reply to #51623)
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Originally posted by cliff:

Ray Cooper.

PhenOMenal percussionist!
And there was a cool glo' off the top of his head.

Actually, his enthusiasm was infectious. Very cool....
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Captain Black
Posted 2008-03-04 6:31 PM (#51645 - in reply to #51623)
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Have Ovation produced a tamourine yet?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-04 6:48 PM (#51646 - in reply to #51623)
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Originally posted by Captain Black:
Have Ovation produced a tamourine yet?
I don't think so. But the US Postal Service did convert a Washburn 12er of mine into one! :mad:
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-04 9:13 PM (#51647 - in reply to #51623)
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Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
Originally posted by Captain Black:
Have Ovation produced a tamourine yet?
I don't think so. But the US Postal Service did convert a Washburn 12er of mine into one! :mad:
Aack! Which one? Are they gonna take care of you on it?

I don't like it as much as my LX, but I do like my Flint Hills Washburn with the Ovangkol back and sides.
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