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The worst basic chord in the guitar world

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Darkbar
Posted 2012-08-09 12:18 PM (#457535)
Subject: The worst basic chord in the guitar world



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B (224442) is, without a doubt, my least favorite "normal" chord. In fact, I hate it. And not just because it's a barre...I play barres all over the place. Done quickly, in the middle of a song, I almost never get B cleanly....always a flubbed note in there somewhere (unless I'm playing an electric). In fact, I'll transpose a song if there's a lot of B's in it.
What chord do YOU hate?
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DaveKell
Posted 2012-08-09 12:30 PM (#457537 - in reply to #457535)
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Do you play the B with just first finger barring and the 4th fret all with 3rd finger? That's how I learned and never have a problem grabbing a clean B. I'm sure this is a dumb question.
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Darkbar
Posted 2012-08-09 12:41 PM (#457538 - in reply to #457535)
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I play it that way on electric, not acoustic.
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seesquare
Posted 2012-08-09 12:42 PM (#457539 - in reply to #457535)
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I hear the "clean" part, but using the index on the high-e, and the other 3 fingers for the 4-4-4 works OK for me.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-08-09 1:00 PM (#457541 - in reply to #457535)
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I don 't try to catch every note in the chord. Usually just the inside 5 strings.....
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Slipkid
Posted 2012-08-09 1:14 PM (#457542 - in reply to #457535)
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Agreed Mr. G.
The B chord is a buzz kill.
You're busting along with all those booming open chords... then .... like a fart in church... along comes that darn ol' B chord.
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Not a big fan of B-flat either.
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-08-09 2:47 PM (#457546 - in reply to #457535)
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Back in my beginner days (ancient history) I wasn't particularly fond of the F chord (003211) 'cause the E and B strings always tore up the side of my index finger.  It was a happy day when I eventually discovered the barre F!!!  Rarely play the old F anymore.

 

Although I do okay hitting it these days, B was another PITA chord for me too.

Practice, practice, practice... and then... some more practice. 

 

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mbedard
Posted 2012-08-09 3:14 PM (#457548 - in reply to #457535)
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I agree with Moody and just shoot for the B root and the next 3 strings, although it does sound pretty good if you throw in the low F# once in a while too. Don't think I could play the 4th fret notes with three fingers even if I tried, seems awkward. Index and ring finger both across multiple strings works for me...
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stephent28
Posted 2012-08-09 3:16 PM (#457549 - in reply to #457535)
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never a problem with a B barr....but maybe my fingers just co-operate with that one.
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Jukebox Joe
Posted 2012-08-09 4:35 PM (#457552 - in reply to #457535)
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Brad Durasa - 2012-08-09 1:14 PM

You're busting along with all those booming open chords... then .... like a fart in church... along comes that darn ol' B chord.


Absolutely hilarious! I totally relate! When I saw the title of this thread, I thought, I wonder if he's talking about the B chord. Sure enough!

I actually play the three strings with my pinky instead of my third finger. My third finger hurt like hell when I tried using it across the three strings, so I lazily got used to using my pinky.

The other one I hated was the F, but now I powerchord it with my thumb, courtesy of the O's nice small necks :-)
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2012-08-09 4:37 PM (#457553 - in reply to #457535)
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Agreed. 52 years of playing and I still hate an open B chord. Maybe I should've had a lesson. I fully barre it on the 7th fret or use XX4447 pretty much as a matter of course. Over the past few years, I've memorized and developed an appreciation for suspended 2 chords, or just 2 chords as most music writers use them. As an alternative, I'll often substitute a B2 (224422) for a B whenever I can, particularly if the chord doesn't need a strong 3rd. One other chord that is difficult for me on a 25-1/2" scale guitar is an E/G# because the spread to the low G# is right at the limit of my little finger. On a 24" scale guitar, like a Fender Jaguar, or even a 24-3/4" scale like a Les Paul or the Hamer improv, the slightly tighter scale seems to make a difference for short-fingered folks like me. Maybe it wouldn't be a concern if I had better technique.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2012-08-09 5:29 PM (#457556 - in reply to #457541)
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immoody - 2012-08-10 6:00 AM

I don 't try to catch every note in the chord. Usually just the inside 5 strings.....


Impressive, do you have a 7 string guitar or is this on a 12 string (which would be an even more impressive effort)?

I also hate B chords (and B flats almost as much). I'll generally try to play it on the 7th fret or capo & transpose. If the song was written by a guitarist, you'll usually find they had a capo on - seriously, who'd actually write a song with a B chord in it.
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DaveKell
Posted 2012-08-09 7:22 PM (#457571 - in reply to #457535)
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I suggest learning "Louise". I count 14 B chords in my version.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2012-08-09 8:36 PM (#457580 - in reply to #457535)
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Brad, for the E/G#, why don't play the E at the 4th fret (D shaped chord) and then catch the G# with your thumb? Lazy man's way to play the chord....
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MWoody
Posted 2012-08-09 9:19 PM (#457586 - in reply to #457535)
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Yup, the Barre B is to be avoided. Prefer the open Key of E:

022100 E

024400 B

046500 C#m

077600 A

Of course you know the worship Musician's favorite chord is Gsus!
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Guitsome
Posted 2012-08-10 6:40 AM (#457599 - in reply to #457535)
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Boy, that moderator is a busy B!

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ProfessorBB
Posted 2012-08-10 8:06 AM (#457601 - in reply to #457586)
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MWoody - 2012-08-09 9:19 PM Yup, the Barre B is to be avoided. Prefer the open Key of E: 022100 E 024400 B 046500 C#m 077600 A Of course you know the worship Musician's favorite chord is Gsus!

Another excellent work around, for sure.  

By bad.  I meant to quote Moody's suggestion.



Edited by ProfessorBB 2012-08-10 8:09 AM
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AdamasW597
Posted 2012-08-10 8:33 AM (#457604 - in reply to #457535)
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Does a worship player use anything but sus chords? The B is tough. I like X-6-4-4-4-X. Bb is simple use a X-X-D-Bb-D-F. It's a legitimate Bb. Pat Simmons uses it sometimes with the Doobie Bros. I play out of the hymn book and a couple of p and w songs.
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alpep
Posted 2012-08-10 11:46 AM (#457615 - in reply to #457535)
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anything that has a B5 b9 or b5 #7 or stuff like that it makes me crazy.
once I learn the shape I am ok but the names blow me away
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Waskel
Posted 2012-08-11 8:22 AM (#457641 - in reply to #457586)
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MWoody - 2012-08-09 7:19 PM

046500 C#m



Don't you mean 046600?
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cruster
Posted 2012-08-16 9:05 PM (#457876 - in reply to #457535)
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I don't play favorites among the three chords I know. I dislike them all immensely and equally. They collude against me and trip me up on the I-IV change from E-form barre to A-form barre every time.
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twistedlim
Posted 2012-08-17 8:57 AM (#457893 - in reply to #457535)
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The B is a weird one for sure. I like going from A to B with 2,3,4 on the A chord and just sliding it up and adding the barr. From other chords it is hit or miss depending on the song I will bar both at 1&4 muting the high E. or a just hit the three strings at the 4th fret. I try to avoid B at all times

Edited by twistedlim 2012-08-17 8:58 AM
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SOBeach
Posted 2012-08-17 11:15 AM (#457898 - in reply to #457535)
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Another one that trips me up occasionally is open E7 (022130).  Just can't consistently get my little finger to cooperate when trying to grab the whole chord simultaneously. I find I have to grab the E first and then put down the 7.  Mind over matter (er, pinky).

 

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sonicpictures
Posted 2013-03-21 3:26 PM (#468628 - in reply to #457535)
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B always bothers me as well. I usually end up doing the three note "power chord" version when i have to make quick chord changes. All those great 12 bar blues songs always have the B!

Edited by sonicpictures 2013-03-21 3:27 PM
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Brian T
Posted 2013-03-21 4:31 PM (#468637 - in reply to #457535)
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The B flat is even worse than the B because it's closer to the nut and requires that much more effort to barr cleanly. I have always disliked and avoided the cowboy-chord form of D-minor. It always sounds weak and anemic to me. It's easy to play but just sounds thin to me. I will usually go up to the fifth fret and do a barr form D-minor.
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