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DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??

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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-03-14 11:55 PM (#49422)
Subject: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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Yes or No . I think that after a few Brews I start sounding better,what about you?
Do some people start sounding better because they get a bit looser when they have a beer or a puff and loosen up when performing.
I tend to vapor lock when trying to play for the public straight or buzzed. GWB
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2008-03-15 12:00 AM (#49423 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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The musician might think so , everyone else disagrees..

Vic

..heh heh ...cheers..
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-15 12:21 AM (#49424 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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I always thought the band sound better when I was drunk. I danced great when I was drunk, too. But, playing guitar? No way.
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sligoman
Posted 2008-03-15 1:10 AM (#49425 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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Depends on how drunk everyone else is.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-15 1:20 AM (#49426 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??
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To be honest, I do relax after a couple of brews. Now once I start the third six-pack, all bets are off.

As to MJ, I only had maybe six 'j's in my life and the last one was over 20 years ago. Actually I wouldn't mind trying another now that I'm back into guitars.

As to dancing, anytime!

WARNING: NEVER ask me to sing!
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dvd
Posted 2008-03-15 1:30 AM (#49427 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??



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I spent 6 weeks in Austin for work a few years back. I had been looking forward to catching a popular local act, Toni Price, at the Continental Club. Finally made it over to see her and she got FUBAR very quickly as somebody kept handing her straight shots. The show went downhill fast and I left disappointed. I'm sure she's had her good days and bad.. just seemed to be squandered talent on that particular occasion.
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Damon67
Posted 2008-03-15 1:36 AM (#49428 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??



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Well this is a touchy subject, and I may get a vacation, but it's the truth. Usually, I would just pass this topic by, but It's funny, I was just contemplating this yesterday inside my own brain.

The reason? My creativity isn't what it used to be.

Now I grew up in the Bay Area, Drug Capitol of the Universe and I have to say that I indulged in many a mind altering substance back in the day. I remember coming up with some insanely heavy riffs and rhythms while peaking on mescaline, some tasty and soulful solos after smokin, or some wild and weird syncopations in the oddest diminished keys on mushrooms.

All of that said I cleaned up my act at about the age of 21, and left the wild drug induced musician life behind.

So initially, I thought yeah, the drugs helped with the creativity.

Then I thought...

Well maybe the creativity was always there, and the drugs finally ate away at enough brain cells that the creativity was lost.

Chicken or the egg sort of thing, who knows?

All I really know is that I'm glad my kids aren't reading this. :rolleyes:
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MarkM
Posted 2008-03-15 2:41 AM (#49429 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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John Fahey played good guitar when drunk and obnoxious, but at a couple of shows I saw it sure took the enjoyment out of it.

My favorite band in Portland in 1980-82 was called Cruise Control. Their '15 minute' breaks always included 2 trips out to the band van, and were never less than 45 minutes. Their music was hot. RIP Richard Burdell.

MarkM
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noah
Posted 2008-03-15 2:55 AM (#49430 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??



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Originally posted by Damon67:
All I really know is that I'm glad my kids aren't reading this. :rolleyes:
Chances are, someones' kids will read what you guys wrote.

common sense: Sound judgment not based on specialized knowledge; native good judgment.
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cliff
Posted 2008-03-15 3:10 AM (#49431 - in reply to #49422)
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wha? . . .
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AussieJames
Posted 2008-03-15 3:29 AM (#49432 - in reply to #49422)
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I saw Bob Dylan here in Brisbane about 4 years ago.
I don't know what planet he was on that night but it sure as hell wasn't Earth.
He was terrible.
The only thing that saved the concert was his band, they were fantastic.
AJ
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2008-03-15 9:08 AM (#49433 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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Originally posted by dvd:
I spent 6 weeks in Austin for work a few years back. I had been looking forward to catching a popular local act, Toni Price, at the Continental Club. Finally made it over to see her and she got FUBAR very quickly as somebody kept handing her straight shots. The show went downhill fast and I left disappointed. I'm sure she's had her good days and bad.. just seemed to be squandered talent on that particular occasion.
I went to college in Austin in the 70's. When you went to see ol' Scamp Walker, chance are he was higher then a kite. Sometimes he was good, most times not......
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NostrAdamas
Posted 2008-03-15 9:10 AM (#49434 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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Pete townsend said it best smokin'works for creativity but will turn you into a softball.A beer or two is ok when I play a gig but Dobro will attest those Vodka martinis dont do anything for hand eye coordination!Jeff
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Northcountry
Posted 2008-03-15 9:47 AM (#49435 - in reply to #49422)
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Ohh never mind
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BT717
Posted 2008-03-15 11:26 AM (#49436 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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I like a beer or 3 when playing or not playing. :D
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2008-03-15 11:36 AM (#49437 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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Don't know if this is true, but someone told me Kenny Loggins showed up drunk for a concert at BYU, where presumably most of the kids were sober. He came running out for the opening number, slid off the stage and broke his leg. Alcohol certainly didn't enhance that performance.
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FlySig
Posted 2008-03-15 11:41 AM (#49438 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??



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One beer, yeah it helps loosen me up a lot. If all I'm playing is rhythm, it doesn't make a difference at all. But if it is at all challenging, loosening up really helps a lot. Or, if I'm singing, it helps a whole bunch.

Too much, like more than one drink these days, and my coordination suffers, as does my ear. So, one beer=good, two or more=bad.

The more the audience drinks, the better!

Since my current gig is a church band, where we play on Sunday mornings, sipping a beer during the performance is out. And most of the audience is sober, too. So we all have to suffer through it.
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guitarwannabee
Posted 2008-03-15 11:44 AM (#49439 - in reply to #49422)
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I think Janis Joplin holds the title of QUEEN of Live Drunk Performances.GWB
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knuckles
Posted 2008-03-15 12:12 PM (#49440 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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From the musicians I've known, I'd say that in general being buzzed is a slight minus for really good musicians, and a slight plus for okay players.
Reading this thread put me in mind of Johnny Cash's "Sunday Morning Coming Down". Now it's running through my brain, and it won't stop. :) So now my iTune is playing "The essential Johnny Cash" album. Good stuff.
So, what is a "Tennessee flat-top box"
I'm not a total country music fan, but I really, really miss Johnny Cash. Any of you know him in person?
knuckles
Sorry about the off-topic tribute. ;)
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Fuzzyman
Posted 2008-03-15 12:42 PM (#49441 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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I guess I could elaborate on this subject a bit,......but, just follow the link below.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2008-03-15 2:02 PM (#49442 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??
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Originally posted by guitarwannabee:
I think Janis Joplin holds the title of QUEEN of Live Drunk Performances.
I totally agree. But that was when she was at her absolute best, contrary to the norm!
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alpep
Posted 2008-03-15 2:40 PM (#49443 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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personally I think a beer or mixed drink to take the edge off often works for me. I am not very confident as a player so it helps.

I have worked with people that were so stoned that I had to unplug their instrument or put their volumne down on the PA. I have also worked with people that were inspired while messed up.

The creative mind is something that has yet to be defined. what sparks that creativity can be from within or from use of other substances. I think that you have to determine what works best for your own state of creative mind.
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G8r
Posted 2008-03-15 3:04 PM (#49444 - in reply to #49422)
Subject: Re: DOES GETTING HIGH OR BUZZED MAKE YOUR PLAYING BETTER??


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For me, more than 1 drink & my coordination suffers, although I perceive that my singing gets better ;) . But that 1 does loosen me up a little and makes my playing easier in front of others. Haven't tried playing music stoned since my college daze.

For others, altered consciousness can be liberating. Think Allman Bros (Live at Filmore East) or with Clapton (Ocean Blvd sessions). For the gifted the inspiration stays long after they sober up (Clapton Unplugged, From the Cradle, etc.)
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Jeff W.
Posted 2008-03-15 5:01 PM (#49445 - in reply to #49422)
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"When I listen to what I did under the influence - 10 years of work - I don't think it either enhanced or impaired me. It didn't have that much to do with it"

-KR
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G8r
Posted 2008-03-15 5:30 PM (#49446 - in reply to #49422)
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He's no longer "under the influence"?!?!?!?!
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