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Location: Ohio | So which Ovations are still made in the U.S. and why in the hell are they trying to confuse us by keeping US model numbers/names on them? I recently read that an Elite T was an Import and was pretty surprised. |
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Location: Route 66, just east of the Cadillac Ranch | Here's a list of the models still being produced in the US: |
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Location: Ohio | Are you serious? None? What about Adamas? What about the custom shop? |
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Location: Jet City | aaronharmon - 2012-04-25 8:33 AM Are you serious? None? What about Adamas? What about the custom shop? That would be all that's left. THey build Guilds now. |
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Location: Utah | They will build you any O or A you want, but it is a custom job. Anything with an AX or TX is an import, while LX and T would still be USA made but only on a custom basis. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | aaronharmon - 2012-04-25 6:40 AM
...and why in the hell are they trying to confuse us by keeping US model numbers/names on them?...
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Location: Ohio | damon67 - 2012-04-25 10:43 AM
aaronharmon - 2012-04-25 8:33 AM Are you serious? None? What about Adamas? What about the custom shop? That would be all that's left. THey build Guilds now.
I think I'm going to be sick
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Location: Flahdaw | Almost makes you want to throw on a pair of Nikes, grab a six pack of Kirin, jump in your Lexus, pound down the beers and commit Seppuku with a Ginsu knife in the parking lot of the UCLA math department.... |
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Location: Ohio | darkbarguitar - 2012-04-25 2:12 PM
Almost makes you want to throw on a pair of Nikes, grab a six pack of Kirin, jump in your Lexus, pound down the beers and commit Seppuku with a Ginsu knife in the parking lot of the UCLA math department....
I must be getting old are Nikes passe? |
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Location: NJ | WRONG WRONG WRONG
please do not give mis information here this IS the FAN CLUB
all Adamas models are made in the USA along with the Al D model
you can get anything built on a custom basis
the glenn campbell model and anther model were recently built in the us.
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Location: Ohio | alpep - 2012-04-25 3:14 PM
WRONG WRONG WRONG
please do not give mis information here this IS the FAN CLUB
all Adamas models are made in the USA along with the Al D model
you can get anything built on a custom basis
the glenn campbell model and anther model were recently built in the us.
O.K. now I am confused again.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | No need to be confused it's pretty simple... - ALL Adamas models are made in the USA
- The Al Dimeola Model is made in the USA
- The recent Glenn Campbell model and another model were built in the USA.
- You can get anything built on a custom basis in the USA
seems pretty simple to me. |
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Location: Boise, Idaho | Nice...senior font. |
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Location: Flahdaw | Mark in Boise - 2012-04-25 6:40 PM
Nice...senior font.
Is he Mexican? |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | I would focus more HOW it is made, HOW it plays and HOW it sounds ... rather than on WHERE it was made.
Some mighty fine instruments are built in other countries. |
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Location: Massachusetts | Standingovation, you're right about that , but I think the consensus here is regarding the Ovation guitar being sent off shore after having begun here in the USA. This is giving many of us here a feeling of the Ovation being "cheapened" for the sake of profit on the part of Fender. Made in the USA still has a nice feeling about it, and that has been taken away from the main product. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | javaman - 2012-04-25 8:26 PM
Standingovation, you're right about that , but I think the consensus here is regarding the Ovation guitar being sent off shore after having begun here in the USA. This is giving many of us here a feeling of the Ovation being "cheapened" for the sake of profit on the part of Fender. Made in the USA still has a nice feeling about it, and that has been taken away from the main product.
Right, I wasn't talking about foreign made Ovations. But I don't blame Fender one bit. Their business is to make money, and the more the better. The problem is a government that does everything they can to force corporations off shore to survive. Shame on us. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | Here is what I have learned. If it is made in the U S of A it will cost you close to twice what the others would cost. I hate to say it. But it's true. I own 3 Japanese guitars(a couple of Takamines and a Yamaha) and, guess what?, they play and sound great. It's ALL about the dollar. I still haven't gotten my CL2079AX, but I'll have it setup by my luthier and I bet it plays and sounds just like it's American counterpart. I just won't have to mortgage my house for it. I have played music since I was 10 years old. If you play any well-built guitar long enough, it's gonna sound great. I don't own as many as some on here. But if what I have owned since I started were here, it would rival anyone's collection. We gotta quit hating on the offshore ones. That's all there is. If you got the do-re-mi you can own an "American". I'll be happy just to get my new one. You can't hate what ya ain't played! Some of us aren't fortunate to have the money to buy the great stuff. I have to settle with what I can get and you all make me feel like an a** for buying what I can afford. It kinda hurts a guys feelings. Just saying.
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Location: Raleigh, NC | Cheap Labor is the deal on most everything that leaves the US. I was amazed though, to see HondaJet build a plant in Greensboro, NC. There had to be a reason for that too..... Tax incentives galore and maybe the Corp. Jet Market is here in the US - still I guess. If the Epiphone Masterbilt was made here, it wouldn't run $599. Like new but used - they're half that. A very good solid wood flattop that's made in Asia. With a US design and specs, tight QC, quality materials like Grovers, and the latest manufacturing equipment, any human can make quality guitars in the new factories in Asia.
I am new - so bear with me. I have a buddy with a Foil Label Custom Balladeer with a busted top - the neck and bowl are great. He would swap for it a fifth of Wild Turkey, Cuervo Gold and a fishing trip. Would be a fair deal IMO. Is there a program to refurbish the Golden Era Ovations? New Sitka top and all - for a sensible price? Kind of the best of both worlds. They would make money at it in Hartford. |
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Location: Massachusetts | Adamas, do you currently own any USA model guitars? I'm not trying to start an argument, I'm just wondering if you will be able to give your new CL2079AX an unbiased comparison against an equivalent USA model. |
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | I have a 2005 Adamas W597 that I got for less than half price. That 2079 costs more than I make in a month. I had to save 6 months and sell 3 of my guitars to get it. I don't want to argue but it seems to me what we have here are a few who don't believe others can make a good guitar. I'll put my Japanese Stratocaster up against any American made one. I'm not saying anything bad about US made stuff. I just cannot afford to buy a guitar that costs a LOT more. I have a feeling the people that make the offshore ones are proud of their work. Mercedes and BMW seem to be doing fine. Besides if the guitar sucks. I don't have to buy it. They don't have a penny yet. I'm not waiting 6 months to buy a used one. People don't sell great gear. They sell stuff they don't want. Besides I do have my Adamas. I just need a second guitar to detune when I play live. If I want to play an acoustic I'll play my 33 year-old Martin D-35(by the way, I got it for $800, or I wouldn't have bought it). I'm buying this guitar solely to play electric. I really won't need to compare. I have a great luthier and I know the preamp smokes.
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | I'm thinking Ovation probably makes FEWER Ovations overseas now than they did in the 80's. As long as the flagship models are still made in the USA, and you can get ANY model made in the USA by custom order... it's all good.
As far as overseas models... outstanding guitars at an affordable price. What's not to like?
As often as this Made In wherever conversation comes up, I never seem to understand it.
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | MR. O it's my bedtime or I would stay up all night and talk. I am what some people might call poor. I am very lucky to get the guitar I'm getting and I don't need to be told that what I'm buying is junk. It's that simple. It must be nice to be able to buy what you want indiscriminately. I have to scrimp and save and cut corners. While others take photos of their guitar in front of a Porsche. I own a 10-year old car that I'll probably have 10 more. Oh, it's Japanese too. I may take a pic in front of my car with my guitar. Thanks for reminding me I'm poor.
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Location: Northwest Arkansas | I had to reboot my computer. Mr. Ovation I was not talking to you. I just want you to know that. I'm not feeling sorry for myself. Some of us can't own Lamborghini's. So we settle for Mazda's. I know my guitar may not be the same as an LX. But I'll bet you $500 I can still make it sing. I've played all over the U.S. and Canada and I've been lucky enough to have famous guitarists tell me I was great. I'm not a name dropper. Don't brag. But I have a passion for guitar that not many have. I play 4 to 5 hours a day. I'm disabled. My first gig this year is Cinco de Mayo. I'm going out with no music stand and no lyrics. I'm playing 3 hours. All from memory and hopefully with my new Custom Legend 2079AX CCB. |
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Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | Heya AdamasW597,
I don't think anyone actually called your guitar junk... they better not have.. LOL.. Seriously.. most of us at least started out with Celebrity line models. Unlike some other brands, Ovation has always focused on putting a guitar out for every price point that was a QUALITY guitar. For the most part the ONLY differences between the USA made guitars and the imports are the necks, tops, warranty and method of assembly. The bowls and pre-amps and up until recently even the necks were the same.
It's all about choices and I for one (and I know many others) are glad we have the choices with Ovation. When you get into the higher end Celebrity models, the major difference starts to be only the Warranty and method of assembly. Unfortunately, there is a deeper perception issue about the quality because while the USA made guitar are all individually QC'd and setup, far too many imports, fine guitars, make it to the store unplayable. Nothing wrong with the guitar per se... just no one took the time to set it up. Personally, I can live with that. I already know how Ovations are designed, and if I can pick up a guitar for next to nothing because the store didn't take the time to set it up and thinks its junk... I'm all over it.
Look what happened with the VXT, which is a made in USA guitar. Few if any stores had them plugged in correctly, was truly sad to see.
Carvin (another one of my favorites) figured it out early on. They knew they were going to be the only ones to show off their guitars. Back in the days of the Ovation showroom, Ovations sold well. I wonder sometimes if they had the showrooms because they sold well, or they sold well because they had the showrooms..
Bottom line... I don't think anyone thinks any Ovation is junk. Well, a couple people that hold the name and guitars close to their heart have opinions about some of the models and maybe some of the aesthetic choices over the years, but I don't think even they used the term junk 
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