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GaryB
Posted 2009-05-06 10:54 PM (#416754)
Subject: The Beatles


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What do you think about them?
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stephent28
Posted 2009-05-06 11:42 PM (#416755 - in reply to #416754)
Subject: Re: The Beatles



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Innovative and ahead of their time but some credit should go to George Martin.
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standing
Posted 2009-05-06 11:45 PM (#416756 - in reply to #416754)
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Who?
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ozwatto
Posted 2009-05-07 2:30 AM (#416757 - in reply to #416754)
Subject: Re: The Beatles


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I'm a fan. Love the way Lennon & McCartney's voices sound, and some of their harmonies, to my ear, still can give me tingles.

Did I say tingles :eek:
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Michael Joseph Kramer
Posted 2009-05-07 2:36 AM (#416758 - in reply to #416754)
Subject: Re: The Beatles


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Well they definitely don't suck, that's a fact!

Truly creative. Truly genius.
But they were free enough to be that way.. to learn their craft... to be shaped into what they became by creative influential people.

Right place at the right time maybe?
Meh... most successful people are just that.

I like em' a lot mate!
Now how bout' a pint then!
Cheers!

MJK
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-05-07 6:47 AM (#416759 - in reply to #416754)
Subject: Re: The Beatles



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I don't see how you can not appreciate The Beatles. Even if it is just one of their different "eras".
And George Martin does not get enough credit IMO.

Think about how young they where when all that great music was written and recorded. How much had you accomplished by the time you were 22 years old?

I hope that in my lifetime I get to see something like the Beatles come around again.
We sure could use it.

L.L.&P.
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-05-07 7:23 AM (#416760 - in reply to #416754)
Subject: Re: The Beatles


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Couldn't possibly agree more, Brad. The most amazing thing to me beyond the great writing, the harmonies and the creativity they showed was their age when they did it. With the cookie cutter "star" world we've entered, you'll never see another like them.
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-05-07 8:01 AM (#416761 - in reply to #416754)
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The best ever.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-05-07 8:34 AM (#416762 - in reply to #416754)
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Their creativity extended to film (something like 30 years ahead of music videos), and they were the first to successfully (sort of) pull off a large venue stadium concert. I also think George was just as talented and a creative writer as well, but didn't receive the credit early on like his more prolific bandmates. I still remember the morning walking to junior high school when I heard "I Want to Hold Your Hand" for the first time on a small transistor radio I was carrying. I could not believe what I was hearing and ran the rest of the way to tell my friends all about it. Sure wish I still had my collection of early Beatles 45s and albums.
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GaryB
Posted 2009-05-07 9:13 AM (#416763 - in reply to #416754)
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I still remember the morning walking to junior high school when I heard "I Want to Hold Your Hand" for the first time on a small transistor radio I was carrying. I could not believe what I was hearing
The impact on me was the same. I was in a local hardware store, I think I was 13, and they still had local hardware stores in NY. I was there to buy a lock for my bike. They had a small plug in radio on a shelf and I Want To Hold Your Hand was playing as I waited. I can still see the color of the radio, pink and tan, and the sound coming from it was nothing I'd ever heard.
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John B
Posted 2009-05-07 9:49 AM (#416764 - in reply to #416754)
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I think they might catch on ....
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an4340
Posted 2009-05-07 10:06 AM (#416765 - in reply to #416754)
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We've talked about this before, but it's a good topic.

I remember my little sister telling me that Paul McCartney was in a band before Wings!

The Beatles were pathfinders showing us the way, like Ramones and other seminal groups.

I wonder whose the Big Group today, showing the way. I'd say the kids still love Jason Mraz.

Any thoughts?
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-05-07 10:11 AM (#416766 - in reply to #416754)
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I was not a fan. I tended to go the opposite direction from the majority at the time and I particularly despised screaming girls. I still don't care for most live music. Only recently, when I tried to learn to play some of their songs, did I come to appreciate their talent.
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-05-07 12:07 PM (#416767 - in reply to #416754)
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Where will talent like that develop again? Where is a group of people hungry enough going to find a place like Hamburg to work in sweatshop conditions to put in the 10,000 hours it takes to get that good?
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-05-07 12:23 PM (#416768 - in reply to #416754)
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I've said this before, and most of you didn't hold it against me, but I didn't like them at all. I was listening to John Mayall and FZ, and, even though the term hadn't been coined yet, they sounded like bubblegum to me. I didn't think theyir songwriting was all that great. Sounded to me like they just chose random words because they rhymed. I didn't think they were exceptional musicians either. They were in the right place at the right time, and with heavy promotion, they made it big. Sorry.
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BT717
Posted 2009-05-07 1:39 PM (#416769 - in reply to #416754)
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Most of what they did I loved!! And then every once in a while it was like HUH????
Whether you loved them or hated them, they changed things!!!!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-05-07 2:04 PM (#416770 - in reply to #416754)
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A lot of young kids these days know a lot of Beatles songs by heart, and are finding the music on their own. That's saying a lot. Last week, a young co-worker (~25) heard "Don't Let Me Down" on pandora or whatever they are playing out there in the dev area, and was blown away and wanted to know who the group was (they thought it was a new release). I told them to dial up Abbey Road, which they did and had never heard before (they sort of knew Come Together, but only the Aerosmith version). They were stunned and amazed. And played the whole thing over again.

There are those who started disliking the Beatles once Revolver came around, and never really listened to them again. Then there were those who listened to Revolver and loved everything from there on out, including and despite the fractures. I'm in the latter group. Although I do think Paul is pretty schmaltzy most of the time.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-05-07 3:14 PM (#416771 - in reply to #416754)
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"Rubber Soul" ignited my Beatles appreciation that goes on today!
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Captain Black
Posted 2009-05-07 3:24 PM (#416772 - in reply to #416754)
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I'm a big,big fan but appreciate that they would not have had as big an effect on the world as they did without Brian Epstein or George Martin.
(Don't Let Me Down was on the `Let It Be' album)
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scooterboy
Posted 2009-05-07 3:31 PM (#416773 - in reply to #416754)
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Huge fan. Best band ever, but definitely greater than the sum of their parts. Neither Lennon or McCartney produced the same level of quality after the breakup IMO.

I think the combination of 1)the songwriting rivalry between them and 2)each keeping the other's indulgences in check is what kept them at such a high level of production.

Well, there's that plus for every Beatles album they each only had to come up with less than half an album's worth of songs once the George and Ringo songs were thrown in. They only truly wrote "together" for the first few albums.

Once they broke up and didn't have each other to keep themselves in check, I found most of their solo albums too indulgent, though there were certainly bright spots (e.g. Band On The Run). Most of them had a half-album's worth of good songs, just like each contributed in the Beatle days.

I haven't liked much that McCartney's put out in the last 10 years or so.
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standing
Posted 2009-05-07 3:34 PM (#416774 - in reply to #416754)
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Originally posted by stonebobbo:
A lot of young kids these days know a lot of Beatles songs by heart, and are finding the music on their own.
The relatively-recent musical movie "Across the Universe" was pretty popular with teenagers… (mine, anyway.) The entire story was developed (contrived?) around the lyrics to Beatles songs, and most of the "dialog" is singing of the songs. (It has tons of inaccurate, but fun, 60's references and characters in it, but only Beatles' music.) I think that movie caused many kids to seek out the original versions of those songs. (By stealing CDs from their Dad's collections… ;) )

Beatles' songs seem to pop up in other movies pretty regularly, too, so kids hear them…

Also, many of the Beatles songs are pretty timeless, and cover tunes by newer bands keep the songs alive.
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Michael Joseph Kramer
Posted 2009-05-07 5:33 PM (#416775 - in reply to #416754)
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Apples and Oranges... The Beatles and Mayall and FZ? There's no comparison, actually.
The difference between the two, MAINLY, is that one group impacts the world pretty quickly and the others impact much smaller groups of people. Over time lots of people may come to appreciate stuff like FZ and Mayall BUT nothing impacts the world like one, simple, GOOD song. A song that immediately changes lives on a major scale. The Beatles wrote MANY of those types of songs, by the way. There is a talent there to do something like that. It may seem unimprtant to s "serious musician" type, which we all are from time to time, but it ends up being HUGE FOREVER to the general population of the WORLD, right? And that's something outside. Something spiritual. Something talented. When you write that song and people just KNOW it's a timeless forever type of song. That's definitely a HUGE talent. Undeniable. But I LOVE Zappa more than words can say... he just doesn't have that "mainstream appeal" for lack of better words... it's very subjective. So be it! Music is God given as well as from LORD SATAN so take it lightly... or it may drive you batty! Hahahahahahaa!

MJK
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-05-07 5:35 PM (#416776 - in reply to #416754)
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I've still got to get around to getting the soundtrack album (Ugh, something I would normally avoid like the plague) for I Am Sam. It had great and reverential reworkings of Beatle tunes.
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nikon4004
Posted 2009-05-07 6:35 PM (#416777 - in reply to #416754)
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Didn't like them.

Just never got into that whole Brittish thing. Definately donl't like the Stones....THey need to do the final Steel WHeelchairs tour.

Steve
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-05-07 6:37 PM (#416778 - in reply to #416754)
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The question was "What do you think of them?" I answered it honestly. But as far as impacting the world, a lot of people would say the same about Madonna, but that doesn't mean she's a good musician. Elvis changed the world, but I wasn't a fan of his either. I was answering the question as a musician, which I already was at the time the Beatles came out. I just never could see what all the fuss was about.
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