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Beal
Posted 2009-07-15 4:35 PM (#407211)
Subject: How do you get past it?



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There's a song that you want to play but it's pretty emotional or has an emotional part.
How do you get past the point of getting choked up your self when performing it?
Speed it up?
Slow it down?
Change the rhythm?
Play it a hundred times till you can do it by rote and not think about it?
Just don't do it?
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Waskel
Posted 2009-07-15 4:50 PM (#407212 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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If you don't think about it the emotion is probably not going to come across to the listener. Nothing wrong with people knowing it's hard for you, you just have to work at it till you can keep it under control.

I know the song, Beal. I'll work with you...

Together, now -

Darrrrby (doo, doodoo, doodoo, do) Darrrby, (doo, doodoo, doodoo, do)....
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FlySig
Posted 2009-07-15 4:59 PM (#407213 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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There are a couple of songs I just won't do, and in fact I don't listen to either. If it is too painful to get through it in practice, why be tortured?
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-07-15 5:00 PM (#407214 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?
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Wow, great question.

Since I can't/don't sing, I would think that the reps would be the way to go.

As to emotional playing, let the emotions drive your fingers and the tempo. I've seen some very impressive amateur performances that would never make a recording studio track.

For different reasons, eulogies and singing are not my forte by any means!
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Beal
Posted 2009-07-15 5:27 PM (#407215 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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Someone else said think about cabbage instead.......
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Beal
Posted 2009-07-15 5:28 PM (#407216 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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Darby was by for dinner last night, it will be interesting to see what he comes up with a song for tonight. Topic is a "Battle in a war"
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-07-15 5:31 PM (#407217 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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Beal, it happens to me quite often...I just keep going over it until I can handle it...there may alsways be a bit of emotion left but thats OK...
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Waskel
Posted 2009-07-15 5:33 PM (#407218 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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Wow, Joe's really digging...

Let us know what you come up with, too.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2009-07-15 6:24 PM (#407219 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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Originally posted by Beal:
There's a song that you want to play but it's pretty emotional or has an emotional part.
How do you get past the point of getting choked up your self when performing it?
Just do it. Trying to hide the emotion, or letting yourself get cold to it, will come across just as strongly as the real emotion would. The difference is the "real" emotion is real, and only adds to the performance aspect.

I unfortunately have two performances on video from the mid 90's. One we played the tune near flawlessly, but I completely hid the emotion. The other time it wasn't initially in the setlist... added at the last moment.. no time to prepare.. I was a mess by the last line. Guess which actually came across better, missed cue's and all.

As a friend told me at the time.. "When you're singing about standing graveside as they buried the woman you loved... it's ok to look and sound upset about it."

I would love to tell ya it gets easier.. and sometimes it is easier, but then sometimes... they'll be a trigger... Keep extra tissue's in the road case....
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Mark in Boise
Posted 2009-07-15 7:24 PM (#407220 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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I never cry when I sing, the listeners do.
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cliff
Posted 2009-07-15 7:39 PM (#407221 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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play it.
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Joe Rotax
Posted 2009-07-15 7:45 PM (#407222 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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I have a few songs that cause me to choke up a bit and I just keep playing them to the point where it doesn't effect me as much - sort of like you just slide through that part w/out thinking because you've played it so much almost to the point of being bored - by which time you have to start learning another song and it all starts again because I only play songs that mean something to me..lol
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-07-15 7:51 PM (#407223 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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Originally posted by Mark in Boise:
I never cry when I sing, the listeners do.
Yoko in Boise.
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Weaser P
Posted 2009-07-15 8:11 PM (#407224 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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...and good to see you stopping by, Cliff.
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MusicMishka
Posted 2009-07-15 9:15 PM (#407225 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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...and good to see you stopping by, Cliff.
+1
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-07-15 9:44 PM (#407226 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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Don't EVER let it get easy. Just practice playing while you cry (or laugh, as the case may be)

How many of us remember those great blues singers on the Ed Sullivan Show, so into the tune they're weaping as they sing? (okay, you under-40's can skip that part) Sticks with you, donnit?
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lanaki
Posted 2009-07-15 9:51 PM (#407227 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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play it. sing it. cry it.
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Beggin
Posted 2009-07-15 10:24 PM (#407228 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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WOW!

I am emotional now...Cliff came back.
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PEZ
Posted 2009-07-16 4:53 AM (#407229 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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Originally posted by Beal:
There's a song that you want to play but it's pretty emotional or has an emotional part.
How do you get past the point of getting choked up your self when performing it?
Speed it up?
Slow it down?
Change the rhythm?
Play it a hundred times till you can do it by rote and not think about it?
Just don't do it?
Let the emotion flow
and just repeat it untill can get through it without stopping. Real emotion can make for a powerfull memorable performance.
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-07-16 5:30 AM (#407230 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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Originally posted by Beggin:
WOW!

I am emotional now...Cliff came back.
My keyboard is soaked with tears. :rolleyes:
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Losov
Posted 2009-07-16 9:28 AM (#407231 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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Originally posted by Beal:

Play it a hundred times till you can do it by rote and not think about it?
Just don't do it?
Those are your best options.
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kotadawg
Posted 2009-07-16 12:01 PM (#407232 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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Why do you want to hide the emotion? Isn't that part of why you play? If you get choked up I'm sure the audience is going to be right there with you. Let them feel it too.
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Captain Lovehandles
Posted 2009-07-16 2:26 PM (#407233 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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I've been reading The Inner Game of Music . It's about eliminating interference while performing. I've been reading about using awareness as a cure for "trying". Maybe awareness of, or focusing on, something visual like your guitar, or a sound like your toe tapping could take your emotions out of play while keeping you involved in the performance.

I'm not very far into it, but it's interesting even if it's psycho-babble. Anybody else read it? It's Patterned after the other Inner Game philosophies, "Of Tennis" and "Of Skiing", but with a musical focus.
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an4340
Posted 2009-07-16 2:41 PM (#407234 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?


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Beal,

I hear what you're saying. I have songs that given the context make me weep. Here are three of them:

Soul of man by Jimmy Driftwood
Over the Rainbow, by Izzy
Will the Circle be Unbroken.

The only way I have to get over it, is just play them alot, starting with an audience of yourself, then before people who care about you, then others.

Basically, it's just playing them alot.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2009-07-16 2:47 PM (#407235 - in reply to #407211)
Subject: Re: How do you get past it?



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The most vivid demonstration I've ever seen of this was when SWMBO sang the Lord's Prayer at her own father's memorial service, which he had requested. She maintained her composure, but nobody else did.
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