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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-19 12:40 PM (#402310)
Subject: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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Ok...Now I've noticed that we guys tend to refer to guitars as "she" and "her." Heck, my favorite is named Becky, and the others will receive female names also. Also, most of my guitar interaction has "her" on my lap, while I tickle "her" up and down with my left-hand, and kinda pet (for lack of a better word) "her" with my right (I'm right-handed).

Furthermore, I understand that the very shape of a guitar is usually suggestive of a feminine form. So, all that put together makes it seem obvious that I would think of each of my guitars as "she."

Stated another way...doing all that above-described interaction with an instrument that I thought of as masculine probably would feel a bit odd to me. And I'm VERY secure in my masculinity (or at least I always thought I was)!

So, for the rest of you: Do you think of guitars differently? Are they "he" or "she"? Does it depend on the guitar? Electric? Acoustic? Are they "it"? Are their more "manly" or masculine guitars? More "womanly" or feminine guitars?

Couple of predictions: (1) I think the women's responses will be the more interesting. At least to me.

(2) A lot of guys will read this to see what the women will say, but then won't respond. I mean, what guy DOESN'T want further insight -- ANY insight -- into how women think?!?!!??
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-08-19 12:53 PM (#402311 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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My guitars are my guitars. Neither male nor female. They are "its". My CAR on the other hand, is a she. ('96 Blazer) When I had Volkswagons, the beetles were he's and the bus was a she. (Don't ask. I have no idea.)
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-19 12:59 PM (#402312 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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WOT: Ooof! I just noticed I did a "there/their" flip above. Being a linguist by training, those things are particularly embarrassing...My apologies! Don't let it derail you!

Canterbury: For some reason, I thought for sure your guitars would NOT be "its." Not sure why.
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BT717
Posted 2009-08-19 1:06 PM (#402313 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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I don't name them,but,do tend to refer to mine and others as "She" as in: "She's gorgeous" or "She has a great tone"
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-19 1:07 PM (#402314 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.



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Yes, I thought Alison would be a 'namer', too. I name mines. But I do it so I can remember which one is which, haha. Mine are usually girls, except for my CL 1119-4 that patch sold me. That one is named "Paddy". Yes, guitars for the most part are shaped like women, but I have seen a few that definitely remind me of MEN. I might post some pics later ...

;)
Willa
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-19 1:13 PM (#402315 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Yes, I thought Alison would be a 'namer', too. I name mines. But I do it so I can remember which one is which, haha. Mine are usually girls, except for my CL 1119-4 that patch sold me. That one is named "Paddy". Yes, guitars for the most part are shaped like women, but I have seen a few that definitely remind me of MEN. I might post some pics later ...

;)
Willa
Lol! Too funny, Willa! They've ALL looked like women to me, but that may be just my singleness doing the interpreting!

( ;) right back atcha!)
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2009-08-19 1:14 PM (#402316 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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I do name them: the LX, the Adamas, "my yellow guitars" (Morgan Monroes), the Parlor, the classical, my Legend, the Hamer, and "Patches", the beat up Yamaha - the only one that has a true name - but I didn't name it, a customer did.
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-19 1:16 PM (#402317 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Yes, I thought Alison would be a 'namer', too. I name mines. But I do it so I can remember which one is which, haha. Mine are usually girls, except for my CL 1119-4 that patch sold me. That one is named "Paddy". Yes, guitars for the most part are shaped like women, but I have seen a few that definitely remind me of MEN. I might post some pics later ...

;)
Willa
Hey, Willa! I just remembered...it's my 1681-5 who's named Becky...you have one of those coming to you! Got a name for her yet?
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-19 1:42 PM (#402318 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.



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Hey, Willa! I just remembered...it's my 1681-5 who's named Becky...you have one of those coming to you! Got a name for her yet?


Well, Alan, I'm thinking about it. By the way, I love the name Becky/Rebecca. I have two beautiful aunts with that name.

The 1681-5 is SO beautiful, isn't she? I am very excited and happy to have grabbed her like I did, especially considering the other acquisitions I have scored this year.

Were you bidding on her? I have been going back and forth thinking about getting an '08C, and almost did the other day from Ebarf (it went for like, $1700!). This one will keep me at bay for while with regard to THAT 'jones'.

I am open to suggestions. She needs something very sexy and a wee bit exotic, what with all that black and lovely binding, etc., don't you think? Maybe "Feleena" like the old Marty Robbins song ...

;)
Willa
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2ifbyC
Posted 2009-08-19 1:55 PM (#402319 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.
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The only guitar with a given name is my -5 Epi Sheraton II. She wails with soul, so she's Aretha.

Then there's the Pacemaker, Patriot and Flag. Easy IDs...
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-19 2:07 PM (#402320 - in reply to #402310)
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The only guitar with a given name is my -5 Epi Sheraton II. She wails with soul, so she's Aretha.


Perfect!

;)
Willa
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Tim in Yucaipa
Posted 2009-08-19 2:07 PM (#402321 - in reply to #402310)
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...no names... they are just tools for the job and refered to as such: Ovation, Les Paul, Strat, Ibanez......... banjo >>>***ducks and runs>>>
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marenostrum
Posted 2009-08-19 2:19 PM (#402322 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.



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Well, in my language "the guitar" is " la chitarra" i.e., feminine (gramm.). So I can refer to my guitar definitely as a "she" or a neutral "it" (but better she ;) ).
The bass (il basso) is masculine (gramm.).... and so on..
No names to them but simply ... my deluxe balladeer, my legend 1617 .....
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Chris from Yalova
Posted 2009-08-19 2:21 PM (#402323 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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If you look at languages which use different genders for all nouns like for example German, the guitar is "she" (die Gitarre), I guess it´s the same in Spanish and French (la guitarra, la guitare). Also Italian chitarra is fem. If so many languages are of one opinion... The guitar must be "she", as far as I am concerned.
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fillhixx
Posted 2009-08-19 2:31 PM (#402324 - in reply to #402310)
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There's that one, 'n' THAT one, 'n' that OTHER one, 'n' the one'needs strings.

Nope don't name 'em or sex 'em.
We're life partners, but not THAT way.....
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-19 2:40 PM (#402325 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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Russian guitars are "she's". So, I believe, are Polish, Ukrainian, Czech, etc...I think they're all "she's" in all of "slav-land."

Must be SOME kind of global understanding about it.
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Losov
Posted 2009-08-19 2:51 PM (#402326 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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I don't name my guitars, drills, vise grips or any other tools. And they are all "its".
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-19 2:59 PM (#402327 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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Originally posted by WillaMuse:
Hey, Willa! I just remembered...it's my 1681-5 who's named Becky...you have one of those coming to you! Got a name for her yet?


Well, Alan, I'm thinking about it. By the way, I love the name Becky/Rebecca. I have two beautiful aunts with that name.

The 1681-5 is SO beautiful, isn't she? I am very excited and happy to have grabbed her like I did, especially considering the other acquisitions I have scored this year.

Were you bidding on her? I have been going back and forth thinking about getting an '08C, and almost did the other day from Ebarf (it went for like, $1700!). This one will keep me at bay for while with regard to THAT 'jones'.

I am open to suggestions. She needs something very sexy and a wee bit exotic, what with all that black and lovely binding, etc., don't you think? Maybe "Feleena" like the old Marty Robbins song ...

;)
Willa
GREAT name! I was NOT one of those bidding on the 1681-5, though if I were and I'd known you were in the mix, I'd have backed out immediately. I wouldn't deny you the sheer pleasure of owning another one like my Becky.

I'm glad you like Becky. The "Becky" I play is named after the heroine in one of my favorite books of all time, who is herself named after a childhood (really young adulthood) crush of mine. She is indeed a genuine, authentic, no-foolin', certified, approved, signed and sealed Rebecca.

By the way, for great names, there's always "Willow," which your name always reminds me of...great guitar imagery in that name.

You are in for a serious treat! I can't WAIT to hear all about it! When does she arrive? I'm like a little kid myself, waiting for YOUR guitar to arrive at YOUR place!

Hmmmm...wonder if that's a bit odd...
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ladylaw
Posted 2009-08-19 3:08 PM (#402328 - in reply to #402310)
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I don't name my guitars or refer to them in any way other than the model name. The other time I've ever referred to any as 'she' was here and that's cause everyone else did.
If anyone ever figures out how we women think, please let me know, so I'll understand me

Anita
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fletcher
Posted 2009-08-19 3:10 PM (#402329 - in reply to #402310)
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I grew-up with National Reso-Phonic guitars and lap steels - all of which were he's.

I got my first acoustic guitar in 1968 - an ovation deluxe balladeer which I still have - and always referred to it as she.

All the ovations I have gotten since then have also been she's until I got a Tornado which seems to be a he.

Strange now that I think about it - maybe it does have something to do with the shape...
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-19 3:11 PM (#402330 - in reply to #402310)
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I don't know if there was much of a bidding game. I think the post was four days old when I saw it, so I just cut to the chase, as they say, and gave him his asking price. MusicMike says I did well on the purchase. I told him if I ever sell her, I'd let him have her, so he's first in line!

;)
Willa
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AlanM
Posted 2009-08-19 3:15 PM (#402331 - in reply to #402310)
Subject: Re: "He" or "she?" Silly topic...but interesting.


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Originally posted by ladylaw:
I don't name my guitars or refer to them in any way other than the model name. The other time I've ever referred to any as 'she' was here and that's cause everyone else did.
If anyone ever figures out how we women think, please let me know, so I'll understand me

Anita
Lol! If you re-read what I wrote, I DID say only that it was additional insight into that great mysterious universe that is the feminine mind.

I'm pretty sure WE (guys, that is) will never get to the end of THAT pursuit!
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-08-19 4:24 PM (#402332 - in reply to #402310)
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Like others have said, my guitars are 'It' and referred to by model...

The Adamas, the Oh-7, the Green 1111, the K-1111, the Sweet T, the T-12, the New T, the Old T, the Viper, the V, the Epiphonie, that poor Trekker-thing, and My First Guitar (that I never play).
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AussieJames
Posted 2009-08-19 5:02 PM (#402333 - in reply to #402310)
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Originally posted by Old Man Arthur:


My First Guitar (that I never play).
Your "first" guitar!!
It's probably unplayable :D

My guitars are just "the" Patriot, CL, GP etc

AJ
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WillaMuse
Posted 2009-08-19 5:28 PM (#402334 - in reply to #402310)
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OK. Read the thread requesting help with Epiphones. Arthur posted photos of guitars that definitely look like 'males' to me ~ based on that whole feminine shape thingy ...
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