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Location: Budd Lake, NJ | ...the sentiments against the Taylors?
I have my own ideas as to why, but there doesn't seem to be as much of an "anti-brand" issue with most of the other guitars.
Just wondering...
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Location: GA USA | Somebody here's been bashing Taylors? |
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Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Taylor? What's a Taylor? |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Karen, I own 4 Taylor guitars; three of which are high end models w/wonderful tonewoods and AAA spruce tops...
I have Martins, Takamine, Gibson, Fender and a huge Ovation/Adamas collection and a few others.
I guess whatever floats your boat, but the old argument about Taylors being overpriced just doesn't fly anymore...again, it boils down to personal preference but I like all of my guitars: they perform or they get sold! I really don't care what others think: I know what sounds good and plays well and so do my audiences. I use all of my collection at different times and at different places: I use my Taylor 810 Fall Limited w/Madagascar Rosewood every Sunday and it constantly gets wonderful complements on its tone and beauty. Thats all that matters to me: not winning any popularity contests... |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Much like Ovation owners, Taylor owners are vocal about their brand loyalty.
Because of this, and that there are so few Ovation fans, Taylor is an obvious target.
Much like how vehemently Red Sox fans hate the Yankees and their fans.
Plus Taylors are overpriced and do not live up to their hype.
Even though alot of wood-box fans lump Celebrity's and Applauses with USA Ovations...
Finding flaw in your $600-$1200 guitar is totally different than getting a crappy $1000 to $7000 guitar.
If I was gonna get a wood-box, Taylor would be very low on my list of choices.
[See? That was nice, and concise, without any swear words. :p ] |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Hold on... be right back... OK...  ... Oops, da show already started... |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | I think it's more of a backlash to the "attitude" put forth by the general population of Taylor owners. Of course there are exceptions MM! |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Plus Taylors are overpriced and do not live up to their hype. OMA, owning and playing one is different from hearing what someone else says...like any other guitar you can pay retail or look around and find one for a lot less...I never came close to retail on any of mine and in fact paid a lot less than half for several...My Brz RW Taylor is the sweetest sounding and playing guitar in my collection: right up there with the '48 Martin, '47 Adamas RI, 1987 Collector Ovation,etc. Overpriced? I'd like to be able to aford a Ryan at 18 large too but I guess thats overpriced as well..lol
Sorry, I own the ones I have and I like them all...They are, in the long run, just guitars... |
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Location: Marlton, NJ | And BTW - Mike does have some beautiful Taylors. I had the pleasure of seeing some of them at the first Southern Jam. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Aw... Mike. If I told the Real reason, I would ruin it for everyone.
Okay... Since I cannot afford one, and I don't play well enough for it to make any difference...
Plus! Bashing Taylor is Just So Much Fun! :D |
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Location: nashville | In my opinon (and it'w worth ever bit of 2 cents)When it comes to wood boxes in general Taylor and everbody else is tying to copy/improve/update/re-enginer/re-define yada,yada yada What Martin did with the orginal dreadnought design like the d-28,hd-28,hdv-28,(Hell Martin even tries to out Martin itself) And with that each has had some success. I think that's what makes the Ovation so interesting. They didnt just say ok lets take brazilian rose wood some spruce, ebany fret boaod and move a couple of braches and act this is the best guitar since sliced bread. Right now the 000 (parlor size)is in voge, Much like our beloved Ovations were in the 70"s. Will Ovation ever recapture those glory days, will Taylor stand the test of time?
Who Know's. If it sound good to you, and the price is right, buy it, play it. |
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Location: Brisbane Australia | Good thoughts James.
Congrats on 100 posts
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Location: Brighty in Blighty | I have a Taylor (W12C) and it's lovely!
It's just down to personal opinion. If you like iy, you like it, if you don't you don't.
Don't worry what anyone else thinks, just because some pop band is number #1 doesn't mean I will like them.
Do your own thing. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Click? |
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Location: Nashville TN. | one never spoken toi me enough to want to buy one.
It could the voated strings...
Hate coated string |
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| Originally posted by PEZ:
one never spoken toi me enough to want to buy one.
I see. |
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Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | Bashing Taylor is Just So Much Fun!
OMA, we're cool and I agree: that is the crux of the matter in a nutshell...and thats OK, I know that...
But, as an owner I can truly say that the negative hype is really offbase...ypu can trust me on that...
I like guitars: I have more Ovations than should be legally allowed I guess...
I also have others that I do like: Taylor's included...
Again whatever floats your boat: I'd love to have a Collings...maybe someday...they are freaking expensive...but I am not going to bash them just for that reason alone...Ryan's are freaking expensive and I still want one eventually...so are Olsens, etc.
No reason to bash them just cuz I can't afford them....
Just play it! That is the best way to get them to open up...
I think it's more of a backlash to the "attitude" put forth by the general population of Taylor owners. Of course there are exceptions MM! Mike, I am sure that is true...and we have no control over that...some sports car owners are in the same league...Boat owners are probably worse...
But the cars and boats and guitars are not the problem: the ownners ego's are... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | There's nothing wrong with Taylors, everyone needs a glass of warm one per cent milk. |
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Location: GA USA | OMA put my honest response best. It's just fun.
Now that my son has a Taylor that he likes a lot, I have toned it down. You may not have realized this, but I am a smart@$$. But making a wisecrack at the expense of my son's joy would require a dumb@$$.
However, Mishka is a big boy and he can take it. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | by MusicMishka:
a Collings...maybe someday...they are freaking expensive...but I am not going to bash them just for that reason alone...Ryan's are freaking expensive and I still want one eventually...so are Olsens, etc.
No reason to bash them just cuz I can't afford them.... You bring up an interesting point... Why don't we Bash Collingses?
Then again... If we are gonna justify this as the rise of the Proletariat (working man) against the Bourgeoisie (decadent rich folks) we should bash all those expensive guitars equally. In the spirit of egalitarianism.
But I guess that would leave us rooting for Applauses, Lyon's, Jasmine's, and Squier's.
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Location: SoCal | I think the reason I'm not a fan of Taylors is that so many of the people who play them are buying the name and the cachet, not a great guitar. Sure, there are good Taylors out there, but by and large, they don't float my boat.
The guy who plays with me at church (actually just sort of strums in the background) has a Taylor. I was playing it at practice Thursday night. Nice guitar, probably worth $600 or so. Pretty certain he paid about twice that for it. Would I want to buy it? No. It sounds thin to me.
They are nice, well built guitars. But they strike me as the flavor of the month, and too much money for the sound you get. Play one if you want. You gotta make you happy, not me.
Right now, nothing I own is sounding right to me and there's a part of me that's thinking it's time to sell everything I own and buy a D-18 Authentic..... |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Yeah, Collings suck.
All they are is just a copy of a Martin from the old days or a Gibson from the period when they made good acoustics.
And the nerve of these Collings guys too! Not only do they copy them but they make them better than Martin or Gibson, and every little detail is exact and completely thought out. In some cases they take the design a step further to make the guitar applicable to players needs today. And the materials that they use are way better than the originals so I guess that's how they can justify in their minds charging big prices.
Unbelievable.
I'm thankful that I can do my small part in buying as many of these as I can, so others won't have to suffer with them. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by Jewel's Mom a/k/a Joisey Goil #1:
...the sentiments against the Taylors?
Taylor is the Obama of guitars. If you look past the public adoration and slick marketing and hype, you're left with somthing very ordinary and ultimately disappointing which costs you dearly. |
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Could someone please 'splain to me...
