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Newf
Posted 2009-11-15 1:17 PM (#390864)
Subject: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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I have a chance to get a 2008 Taylor 416ce LTD for about 1600 Canadian. I just got my Ovation last week but I could sell it to a very willing buyer and not lose any money on it.

I can't play the Taylor before hand, its out of town and would have to be shipped

My OV is a new 2078lx elite deep contour.

Not sure if I should do this or not. I've never played a Taylor
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The Usual Suspects
Posted 2009-11-15 1:31 PM (#390865 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?
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You should post this question on the Taylor forum
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-11-15 1:36 PM (#390866 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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Originally posted by Newf:

I can't play the Taylor before hand, its out of town and would have to be shipped
Not sure if I should do this or not. I've never played a Taylor
You should buy several Taylors before you play them...always a wise strategy.
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The Usual Suspects
Posted 2009-11-15 1:42 PM (#390867 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?
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After giving this more thought, you should definitely sell your Ovation and get a Taylor. There is no better sounding guitar, especially plugged in, than a Taylor. Best of luck.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-11-15 1:50 PM (#390868 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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I have no idea how much a Canadian Dollar is worth.
And I have no idea what a Taylor 416ce LTD is worth.
But I do know that you can probably buy TWO really nice Ovations for $1600.
Or One Really Nice Adamas.

If you want to know what the general consensus might be, do a forum search for "Taylor. :p
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Newf
Posted 2009-11-15 1:53 PM (#390869 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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how do the necks compare on the two? I don't have big hands

Here in Canada, my 2078lx is usually around 1800 Canadian new. I grabbed mine from the us for about 800 us new with case.

Here in my town, your not getting an elite ovation for under 2 grand Canadian....that's why I never bought one here. A Taylor, above 3 if not 4.
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The Usual Suspects
Posted 2009-11-15 1:58 PM (#390870 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?
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Taylors have far superior necks. As easy to play as a well set-up Strat.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-11-15 2:00 PM (#390871 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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And they don't roll-up to face the Heavens when you play standing?

But don't them sharp corners hurt?
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The Usual Suspects
Posted 2009-11-15 2:06 PM (#390872 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?
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Taylors are far superior in every respect to every other guitar. That's why you pay a premium. You always get what you pay for, correct?
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bvince
Posted 2009-11-15 2:28 PM (#390873 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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Oh Yes! ... As a matter-of-fact, we all here at the OFC are actually secretly planning to sell all our Ovation guitars and buy up as many Taylors as we can. We are absolutely sold on Taylor guitars. Oh ... and Elvis is actually alive and well, living secretly in isolation as a monk in Japan.
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Darkbar
Posted 2009-11-15 2:34 PM (#390874 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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Originally posted by Newf:
how do the necks compare on the two? I don't have big hands
You know what they say, "small hands,......"
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Trader Jim
Posted 2009-11-15 2:42 PM (#390875 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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I've got 3 Taylors now and think they are great guitars.
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BT717
Posted 2009-11-15 2:45 PM (#390876 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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Originally posted by Trader Jim:
I've got 3 Taylors now and think they are great guitars.
(Hi, my name is Taylor Jim, and I have GAS)

:D
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roscoe
Posted 2009-11-15 2:57 PM (#390877 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?
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It seems funny to me that someone can post about a Collings here and there are 2 pages of positive comments, yet anytime a Taylor is mentioned, (which I think are great guitars also) it starts getting bashed. The Taylor 416 LTD is a fine guitar. Spruce top with Tazmanian Blackwood back and sides. Very well put together and great sound.
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Newf
Posted 2009-11-15 2:57 PM (#390878 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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Ahh, I can't do it, I have bonded with my Ovation. Next one I'll get will be a Taylor maybe.
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FlicKreno aka Solid Top
Posted 2009-11-15 3:03 PM (#390879 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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Just a thought ..

Keep the Ovi, and if ya really miss having a dread , then save a bit and buy a YAMAHA , great value fer the money , and , inexpensive , I yet have to hear a Yamaha that was n`t good.
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Slipkid
Posted 2009-11-15 3:09 PM (#390880 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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The only Taylors I a have regard for are....
Andy,
James,
& Swift.
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nikon4004
Posted 2009-11-15 3:21 PM (#390881 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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I agree. My son wanted a guitar to learn on so I got him a Yamaha (not sure shich model) for 299 or so with a nice gig bag, Good sounding and nicely set up out of the box.


Steve
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-11-15 4:34 PM (#390882 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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Originally posted by roscoe:
It seems funny to me that someone can post about a Collings here and there are 2 pages of positive comments, yet anytime a Taylor is mentioned, (which I think are great guitars also) it starts getting bashed.
People enjoy bashing Taylors here... But if you ask me, Collings are too damn expensive also.
They all fall into the "Nature's Way" category...

"It's Nature's Way of Tel-ling You, You've got too much MON-neee!"
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stephent28
Posted 2009-11-15 4:37 PM (#390883 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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Like any other guitar...some Taylors are excellent some are turds.

For the same money, Ovations are a better investment and a superior instrument.

If you get into the 3 grand plus territory there are some nice Taylors to be found and there is that one cheap one (baby) that Dave raves about.
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G8r
Posted 2009-11-15 4:39 PM (#390884 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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Originally posted by roscoe:
It seems funny to me that someone can post about a Collings here and there are 2 pages of positive comments, yet anytime a Taylor is mentioned, (which I think are great guitars also) it starts getting bashed. The Taylor 416 LTD is a fine guitar. Spruce top with Tazmanian Blackwood back and sides. Very well put together and great sound.
It's a long-standing (years-long) gag here. Taylor-bashing on this forum is tongue firmly in cheek. Not so on the Taylor (ahem Acoustic Guitar) Forum. Go over to The Acoustic Guitar Forum (formerly The Taylor Guitar Forum) and post something where you mention you own an Ovation and that it's a pretty nice guitar. But make sure you wear an asbestos suit, 'cause the flames are guaranteed to give you third degree burns. The fan-boy attitude is worse than Apple. It's as though they feel they have to put down every other guitar maker to justify how much they spent on their guitar. Like TUS said, you always get what you pay for, right?

There's no doubt Taylor guitars have high build quality, fit and finish. I own as many all-wood guitars as I do Ovations/Adamii, but none of them Taylor. Part of the reason is that I have yet to play a Taylor that speaks to me. Part of it is the holier-than-thou attitude of many Taylor owners. And part of it is that I can have a superior-sounding guitar to my ears with just as good build quality and materials for a lot le$$.

I don't know anybody here who genuinely looks down on anyone else's choice(s) of guitar brand(s) (well, maybe an Esteban). Since we like Ovations, we're already a couple of standard deviations away from the mean. But that just means we appreciate variety. Not so for the Taylor fans-boys I've met.
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roscoe
Posted 2009-11-15 4:45 PM (#390885 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?
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Thanks for clearing that up. I have had and still have a few Taylor guitars that I feel are excellent instruments, yet I have played a few that were, as someone else said, turds. I still like Ovations too. Totally different sound, yet both are pleasurable to me. I agree on the Esteban. What a pos.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2009-11-15 4:58 PM (#390886 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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Newf ... from a pure monetary standpoint, if you can swap a 2078LX for a Taylor 416ceLTD straight up, you ought to do it. That's a can't miss from an investment standpoint because for whatever reason, many many people out there treasure Taylors and keep their value high. So do it, and then save another $600-800 and get a killer Ovation that will 9 times out of 10 blow the Taylor away. You'll avoid the coulda woulda shoulda in the back of your mind.
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Old Man Arthur
Posted 2009-11-15 5:00 PM (#390887 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?



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Now that we are picking on Esteban... How is the World Tour Coming?

That is just some good late-night advertising. Catch people when they are half-asleep!
I have bought two really NICE $66 wood boxes that I have lent-out.
I do not know that an Esteban would survive the abuse...
And I don't think that I could survive the abuse if I actually lent an Esteban to somebody.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2009-11-15 5:03 PM (#390888 - in reply to #390864)
Subject: Re: Swap ovation for Taylor?


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Guy at church who plays with us has a Taylor 314. Ok guitar but sounds thin acoustically and plugged in. He's having a problem with the electronics and borrowed a Taylor 814 from a friend. Nice guitar. Retails for $4k. It's a nice $1500 guitar. Looks great, sounds decent.

You pay a lot with Taylors for what you get. If it's worth it, then buy one. They are not good deals as far as I'm concerned. Larivee's are much better. And if you want to spend $4k, buy a Collings, Santa Cruz, Froggy Bottom, etc. There are much better guitars out there for that kind of money. My 87C, for $1200 or thereabouts is a much better guitar than the 814.

But if you want a Taylor, go ahead and get one. Other Taylor owners will love you and tell you how brilliant you are.

And by the way, Usual Suspects is being sarcastic and playing with you.......
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