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everysandwich |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 6 Location: atlanta | Hi folks -- I hope someone here can help me with info on this guitar my older sister gave me when she was in hippie college -- very early 70's. I was told it was a protoype. The serial number is 292. It is in serious need of a neck reset at least since it plays like a dobro at the moment. Basically I'm trying to figure out if it has any historic or collectible value because that would affect if and how I looked into having it repaired. Here are some pics of the beast. ancient balladeer | ||
Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | Welcome! The only place to get it repaired would be the factory. I wouldn't trust it to anyone else. Looks to be around a 1966 if I'm not mistaken, which I may be. Someone else with more knowledge will be along shortly. | ||
fletcher |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 416 Location: On the Coast - Halfway between SF & OR | Nice Balladeer! I certainly don't have more knowledge than TJ, but I agree, the only place to get it repaired is at the factory - a neck reset will mean heating and reshaping the bowl; not something I would trust to the shop down the road. If you decide to sell it instead, be sure to let me know. Oh, and welcome to the board! | ||
numbfingers |
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Joined: January 2006 Posts: 1120 Location: NW Washington State | The experts on old Ovations will arrive soon. Looks to me like it's worth a trip to the factory, especially if it has sentimental value. In the meantime, we can check out Fred\'s tunes. Nice work! -Steve W. | ||
Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | An old Deluxe Balladeer. Send it to the factory for a set up. Welcome. | ||
Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | ...and he should know. | ||
Jonmark Stone |
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Joined: May 2008 Posts: 1556 Location: Indiana | When I die I want a five point rosewood bridge on my urn. | ||
moody, p.i. |
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Joined: March 2002 Posts: 15665 Location: SoCal | Originally posted by Jonmark Stone: You mean like this one? When I die I want a five point rosewood bridge on my urn. | ||
stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | You store ashes inside that Ovation guitar??? :eek: Sandwich (mind if I call you Reuben?), you have a pretty early guitar. What Beal said. It's worth it to send it to the old factory and have them give it a once over. They'll let you know what may need to be done. Stick around and let us know how it turns out, Rueben. :cool: | ||
Trader Jim |
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Joined: June 2006 Posts: 7307 Location: South of most, North of few | Rueben.....funny.... | ||
BT717 |
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Joined: October 2007 Posts: 2711 Location: Vernon CT | Welcome, good advise above. Good luck! | ||
Michael R. Winters |
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Joined: September 2002 Posts: 806 Location: Seymour, Tennessee | Welcome, nice to see another old shiney bowl has turned up. Send it back and have 'em look at it. I'm sending my Dad's 1968 DB back when I get home. | ||
everysandwich |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 6 Location: atlanta | Wow -- this place is active! Thanks so much, good people. Looks like a consensus to get in touch with the factory. (And yes, I'll answer to any sandwich -- provided I've heard of it ;) | ||
2ifbyC |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | First of all, welcome to the Ovation Hive Mind! Second, nice job on your first post linking to the pics, plus the sig line!! Lastly, SEND IT OFF TO THE MOTHERSHIP!!! | ||
cholloway |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2791 Location: Atlanta, GA. | And yes, I'll answer to any sandwich -- provided I've heard of it Muffuletta??? | ||
2ifbyC |
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Joined: December 2006 Posts: 6268 Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | Originally posted by cholloway: Day-um Colin, don't type with your mouth full...Muffuletta??? | ||
cholloway |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2791 Location: Atlanta, GA. | As seen on the Factory's Repair Shop Door... | ||
tremor |
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Joined: November 2009 Posts: 177 Location: Milford, MI | I will give you $50.00 for it, if you pay for shipping... Just kidding! Very nice even if it does need a neck reset. Keep us posted please. | ||
Ultrafan |
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Joined: May 2009 Posts: 43 | Slow down on this neck reset and factory work,take it slow.I have fooled with guitars all my life and have made alot of dumb mistakes. Take that guitar and remove the strings,wipe it down a little with a clean cloth.Dont take anything apart.Put new strings on,tune up and then loosen.Put a quality humidifier in it,put it in the case and forget about it for a couple of months.Just keep that humidity up.These guitars are always dried out.This guitar is 40 years old,take your time.After awhile,tune up and work the truss rod a little.Tune,check action,and adjust truss rod,over and over.Remember,1/4 turn on a truss rod nut is alot.This has worked for me.Too many times I have ripped apart cool stuff to make it "Better".Cars,guitars,cycles,furniture,you name it. | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Ultrafan - with all due respect, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You've been here all of 8 months (with 25 posts in that time). The people who are giving this advice have YEARS of experience with Ovation and Adamas guitars of every era, model and condition. Most of them (myself included) have had the factory repair/restore/tune up guitars with fantastic results. It gets REALLY old saying this, but do a bloody search for all the testimonials. NO other major guitar maker does that kind of work. Even for warranty work, they send you to a local luthier (if you're lucky to live near one) who's been "certified" to work on that builder's products. Most luthiers are not equipped to do more than the most simple setup jobs on Ovations because of their round backs. The Ovation factory, on the other hand, has a service department fully and uniquely tooled to work on their guitars, and the corporate culture and imperative (for the moment) to do so. Shiny bowl Balladeers are a rare breed, an icon of American innovation, and an example of a product that changed the music industry for professionals and consumers alike. A specimen in salvageable condition needs the loving care that only the people who built it in the first place can give it, and they WILL treat it with the respect it deserves. EDIT: I just read thru the whole thread again. One of the people whose advise you recommend blowing off probably built this guitar, then went on to run the company. Probably worth listening to. | ||
Todd G. |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 815 Location: Colorado | Gotta go with G8r here. | ||
hwebster |
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Joined: June 2005 Posts: 492 Location: California | Just wondering, what is involved in the setup at the factory, what kind of things do they do? | ||
G8r |
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Joined: November 2006 Posts: 3969 | Originally posted by hwebster: Everything. From something as simple as polishing the frets and the top, to adjusting neck relief and action, to repairing finish cracks, to repairing top cracks, to top re-finish/(re)painting, to neck resets, to shaving fretboard to get rid of divots, to fixing broken "ears" on the paddle headstocks, to re-attaching broken headstocks to the neck, to replacing the bridge, to repairing loose/broken braces, to complete top replacement. They're only limited by how much you wanna spend. ...what kind of things do they do? Seriously, search the archives for testimonials about the various repairs and restorations people have had done. | ||
everysandwich |
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Joined: January 2010 Posts: 6 Location: atlanta | I've sent an email to the mothership. Will advise. --mufuletta | ||
Mitzdawg |
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Joined: July 2004 Posts: 766 Location: New Hampsha | Originally posted by G8r: Too bad on the reread you couldn't have turned the "polite" knob up to "2". Ultrafan - with all due respect, you don't know what the hell you're talking about. You've been here all of 8 months (with 25 posts in that time). The people who are giving this advice have YEARS of experience with Ovation and Adamas guitars of every era, model and condition. Most of them (myself included) have had the factory repair/restore/tune up guitars with fantastic results. It gets REALLY old saying this, but do a bloody search for all the testimonials. NO other major guitar maker does that kind of work. Even for warranty work, they send you to a local luthier (if you're lucky to live near one) who's been "certified" to work on that builder's products. Most luthiers are not equipped to do more than the most simple setup jobs on Ovations because of their round backs. The Ovation factory, on the other hand, has a service department fully and uniquely tooled to work on their guitars, and the corporate culture and imperative (for the moment) to do so. Shiny bowl Balladeers are a rare breed, an icon of American innovation, and an example of a product that changed the music industry for professionals and consumers alike. A specimen in salvageable condition needs the loving care that only the people who built it in the first place can give it, and they WILL treat it with the respect it deserves. EDIT: I just read thru the whole thread again. One of the people whose advise you recommend blowing off probably built this guitar, then went on to run the company. Probably worth listening to. There's nothing in the advice that was given to warrant that tone and rudeness. He merely told the person to take things slow. And he did it politely. But wait - it's G8R - rude and combative? that's normal. | ||
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