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Location: Jet City | For all the bitchin' about there being no widenecks from Ovation, I would imagine that there would be an abundance of Folklore owners, or at least people that have tried them.
So where are you people? Where are the pics? Where are the reviews of the 2774LX? I've asked before and just watched my post float, unanswered, to the bottom of the heap.
I haven't seen a single used one for sale anywhere, and I've looked. I imagine thats cuz people don't give 'em up once they have one. Really it's the most unique Ovation on the market today with it's tortoise binding, wide neck, and contour bowl.
So lets hear it. It seems I'll have to get a new one to get my hands on trial, so I'd love to hear what people are thinking about theirs. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I loved my '97 collectors parlor wideneck.....sold it to finance other widenecks.
Love my Adamas #57 wideneck....plan to keep that one.
Love my OFC2 wideneck...plan to keep that one.
Really liked the '08 Collectors wide neck.
Can't recall any other woodtop O's with widenecks that I have owned or played. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Folklores are 1 7/8 as are many of the production guitars
Wide necks are 1 3/4
1 7/8 or 1 3/4, big difference.
OH and there's the little point of 14 frets to the body
The 08 C-Series was the only 1 3/4 although there may have been others. I'm a little fuzzy on the history since 1998. |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | I just sold the 35 year old Folklore that I got from TJ. It was a great sounding and looking guitar, but I am a fan of the narrower necks. The guy who bought it came in and went to it like a magnet. He said he loves the sound of Ovations but always had trouble with the round back. Yet when he sat down to play it, he said it wasn't too bad. I showed him a few other guitars but he said he liked the Folklore better. He bought it, and the next day he and his wife came in and brought me lunch as a thank you, as if the check weren't enough! (And I must say, his wife is a very good cook. She brought me some pork pie, one of my favorite foods in the world.) Besides the sound and the looks, he DID like the wide neck. He is a strummer, but his hands are big and he found it more comfortable. |
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Location: Warren,Pa. | I have a '76 Folklore that I got (with Moody's help : ) a few months back. It had a few issues and I feel very good about giving it another lease on life. I rescued a '79 Pacemaker in a similar fashion. I will never part with these former orphans.
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Location: Flahdaw | Originally posted by Beal:
Folklores are 1 7/8 as are many of the production guitars
Wide necks are 1 3/4
1 7/8 or 1 3/4, big difference.
Didn't know that. I don't want a 1 7/8....too wide! I just like a little more room to pick with. Thanks for that info. |
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Location: Jet City | The new 2774LX is 1 3/4 |
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Location: Jet City | So is the 6774LX for that matter |
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Location: Jet City | OK, I should clarify. I have owned the wider Folklore, a 6774 non-LX. TJ owned it before me, and I think it went to Woody after me.
It was way too wide, that's why I'm asking specifically about the new LX models. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | 1 3/4 is the way to go.
Good to know there are several to choose from. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | A few manufacturers are going with a 1 13/16 as a "standard" neck now.
My favorite and best sounding Ovation, bar none, that I've owned (subjective personal opinion) was a 1614 from around 1974 if my memory serves me correctly. It got damaged in shipping back to the factory for a refret. I sure do miss that guitar. I still have the body, which is cracked, but I made it into a lamp.
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | '78 Folklore...
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Location: Tennessee | Not to ring this bell again, but the OFC 2 guitar that Al put together with the 1 3/4" is about perfect. The neck is a bit chunkier than most of my other 1.75'rs, so it actually feels like it plays bigger than all of them except for the Tak Bleugrass, which plays huge for its nut width. Neck profile has SO MUCH to do with how the neck feels, not the nut size.
I now wish I got the wideneck version of the OFC I guitar ... but at the time I thought "wideneck" would be the same as my Josh White. Which is not my kind of player ... too wide for me.
I still really like to play the natural oil finished k-bar necks with the slight V profile best. I am a rocker at heart. |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Bobbo nailed it. It's not the nut width per se, it's the total feel of the neck profile that's the key. Indeed the wide neck OFC II is a killer. But it all comes down to what feels best in your hands and everyone has different hands and different expectations. Personally the BEST feeling neck I own is the Guild D40 and I have not got clue what width it is. |
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Location: Michigan | Originally posted by 2ifbyC:
'78 Folklore...
I love my UTE, does that qualify as a wide neck? |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | the Guild is 1.70 |
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Location: Central Oregon | "Bobbo nailed it. It's not the nut width per se, it's the total feel of the neck profile that's the key."
I agree completely. My old Peasnaker 12 string by necessity has a wide nut but it feels much slimmer than it is because of it's shape. I'm gunna have to drag that thing out from under the table... |
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Location: Ontario Canada | Originally posted by Nils:
"Bobbo nailed it. It's not the nut width per se, it's the total feel of the neck profile that's the key."
I agree completely. My old Peasnaker 12 string by necessity has a wide nut but it feels much slimmer than it is because of it's shape. I'm gunna have to drag that thing out from under the table... Thanks for this thread Damon7, also can I buy your nice lamp TJ.?
Nils, your Peasnaker 12 string has the same neck as my 1615-4 Peasnaker which I play for fingerpickin' quite a bit as an eight string. I remove the bottom EADG higher tones and just have the B and E as double courses. Gives a nice feel for me. The nut is 1 7/8 inches.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The old Pacemaker and Folklore have exactly the same neck, just a slightly elongated headstock on the Pacemaker. |
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Location: Newington, CT | I have a Folklore Deluxe. It's what caused me to buy two more widenecks afterward (an electric and a Gitane D-500). The FD-14 is a dream guitar! |
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Location: Germany, where delicious wine is growing (Rheinh) | Hi guys,
I love widenecks, too. Most of my guitars are widenecks and I have trouble with the narrow ones (1 11/16"). But I must say, the 2009C is the most comfortable gutar I've ever played. It has a 1 3/4" nutwith and a round, gloss neck, really perfect for me. I've played the new Folklore 2774 LX at a seller, it was also a very great guitar in playability. I think it has the same neck of the 2009C. I can also handle a 2" nut of a classical, but that's very uncomfortable for me.
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Location: Phoenix AZ | The interesting thing in this discussion is that there is no universal definition of "wideneck" and certainly no right or wrong answer.
Every builder seems to offer a range of nutwidths. Some have lots of models with different size and some just a few. I guess anything wider than their smallest size would be considered a "wideneck" or at least a widER neck.
Some higher end builders have the precision to go to finer increments. One of my guitars is a 1-25/32 inch. And then you have many builders which use metric standards like 42.5mm and 45mm which don't exactly correlate with non metric builders. I go back and forth a lot between Ovation and Takamine and the O "wideneck" always feels smaller than the T "wideneck". Gee, guess why?
If you are ever buying a new guitar and have the ability to do it (and have a neck that you love) you can usually send your existing guitar to the builder and ask him to copy the neck exactly. I did this on one guitar and the results were spectacular. |
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Location: Louisville, OH 44641 | I've always been a sucker for a nice 12 string and play them often (1-7/8 Nut). But when I pick a guitar, I find having the same width neck a bonus because the fingering is exactly the same and I can concentrate more on my right hand work. If I'm strumming, then I prefer the 1-3/4 witdth neck. It's a little bit faster and yet close enough to the 1-7/8 to not cause any problems. Good discussion. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | Originally posted by Gallerinski:
If you are ever buying a new guitar and have the ability to do it (and have a neck that you love) you can usually send your existing guitar to the builder and ask him to copy the neck exactly. I did this on one guitar and the results were spectacular. That is exactly what I did with my Baxendale 12 string slothead 12 fret cutaway. I carried over my 1688 Adamas 12 which had the best 12 string neck I had ever played. Told Scott that the only thing in the build that I was going to insist on was that the neck be an exact copy in terms of dimensions and feel.
Came out incredible and is one that will never leave the stable. |
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Location: Utah | We spent a couple of hours playing at the local Mom & Pop this morning. He's got some nice Takamine with the same nut width as Ovation. The only wider nuts were on some lower end Ibanez with 1 3/4. The difference is only the width of the low E string, but it is enough to really notice. I was surprised how much easier it was to do fingerstyle. Usually my left hand gets tied up and feels clumsy, but the extra space really helped. The difference didn't seem to matter for other styles such as strumming or playing single notes. |
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