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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | This has been (un)officially confirmed by a dealer.
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Location: Earth·SolarSystem·LocalInterstellarCloud·Local Bub | Good, innovative guitars. Shame to see them go. I love my Cargo. It's just the perfect travel acoustic. Never seen, heard or played anything better. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | Could be, Here\'s a disconcerting post on the carbon guitar forum. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | and another |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | It was rumored a little while ago that somebody else would be aquiring them. |
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Location: Steeler Nation, Hudson Valley Contingent | It's on the AGF as well, and Ovations have become part of the discussion.
I didn't care for them personally, but I hate to see them go. They seemed to make a good product by the account of many whose opinion I trust (about guitars anyway).
Here\'s the AGF thread |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Wadda Drag... And I don't foresee them getting cheap enough for me to afford one.
I would have liked to at least got to play one for awhile...
No big deal... But I woulda liked to have had one for a month or two (then resell it). |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | I'm still glad I getting the Blackbird Nylon over the CA. |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I just bought a Cargo raw and had to send it back because of intonation problems. I should have kept the first one I owned, it was by far the best. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Arlo and his CA... Coming into Los Angeles... |
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Location: East Tennessee | Last fall I was in Gruhn's in Nashville. They had several CA Cargo's. I didn't play or price them. Kinda wish I had.
TJ, Are they going to send you another Cargo? |
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Location: South of most, North of few | I just returned it for refund.
I've owned about 7 or 8 CA's of different types and to be honest, every one I've had since the first 3 or so have been of lesser quality and playability. I've had to send back 3 (including the latest Cargo) for issues such as relief, (you can't adjust because of no truss rod), intonation, (on two) and general unplayability. Like I said, I shoulda kept the first Cargo. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Maybe they closed cause they slid off your leg too.
Hate it when that happens. |
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Location: Latitude 39.56819, Longitude -105.080066 | specially if your Santa Claus |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | First today I learn that our day is 1.26 µSec SHORTER and now this...  |
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Location: Michigan | Could not help but wonder after watching their youtube video how they could pay for all that cnc equipment. Being in a business where purchasing a cnc milling center could be useful we had to weight it against the costs and we just could not justify the expenditure. (we charge a lot more for our fixtures than CA charges for a guitar, and I would guess we sell a lot more items)
My guess is that they went in pretty heavily leveraged, but I am only speculating. |
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Location: SoCal | Maybe Fender's buying them and moving production to CT..... |
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Location: Hot Springs, S.D. | It sounds to me, and I admit I know nothing about the company, that their quality went down hill. If the last 4 or 5 that TJ bought all had problems, I'm sure other people have had problems with theirs. No wonder they are closing. Blame it on poor quality control. |
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Location: 6 String Ranch | Blame it on Gibson, everyone else does. |
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Location: NJ | everyone I ever saw had some sloppy construction issues.
some sounded pretty good. I flirted with the idea of even buying a cargo for a minute |
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Location: East Tennessee | Originally posted by Beal:
Blame it on Gibson, everyone else does. Illegal Tone-woods???? :D |
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Location: Florida Central Gulf Coast | ... excessive carbon footprint! |
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Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
No wonder they are closing. Blame it on poor quality control. I hope other companies are taking note. |
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Location: Scotland | Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
It sounds to me, and I admit I know nothing about the company, that their quality went down hill. If the last 4 or 5 that TJ bought all had problems, I'm sure other people have had problems with theirs. No wonder they are closing. Blame it on poor quality control. You know nothing about the company yet are able to draw that conclusion based on a handful of posts from a bunch of internet forum experts? Wow, I hope you don't make other decisions in your life based on that kind of evidence.
If quality control was the sole factor to kill a company Ovation would have been dead decades ago. There are a ton of possible causes and it was probably a combination of several, cost of and competeing demand for the raw material and the general ecomomic climate being a few of the more likely factors.
Of the several dozen CA's I've seen the quality was fine and they sounded great. But then I'm not going to draw the conclusion that their QC was perfect based on that tiny sampling, they probably did have some QC problems, all guitar factories do to to some degree.
Pesonally I'm dissapointed about this. I was talking to them at NAMM about being a UK dealer and was ready to place an order. One's thing is for sure, I won't be going to Rainsong as an alternative. Maybe they'll be back. Emerald Carbon Fibre Guitars shut down and are back in business again, even though they suck worse than Rainsong. |
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Location: Keepin' It Weird in Portland, OR | Carbon Fiber is a Fad! |
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Composite Acoustics is officially closed
