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4fingers
Posted 2010-03-31 11:17 AM (#375414)
Subject: Adamas top


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I play finger style, with my pinkie resting on the guitar for support. Wood top guitars that I have played for years and years, with no pickgaurd, always show a nice worn spot where the finger tip gradually wears it's way thru the finish.

I now play an Adamas Carbon Fiber guitar, and altho the top seems quite durable, I don't want to mar the appearance of this very expensive guitar.

The problem is that the surface of the top is a rough, sort of corrugated surface, that defies the adhesive on two different "stick-on" pickgaurds I have tried. And the other option, simply gluing something on with a more reliable and strong adhesive leads me back to the original problem - I don't want to permanently mar the surface with something that won't come off.

Others must have faced this problem before, and so I hope someone can give me a method for sticking a small piece of plastic onto the surface of this black rough surface that will stick reliably but not hurt the surface.

I don't know how to describe the top surface, but it is some kind of imitation woven pattern (the guitar is a wide neck, special order Adamas 2080 )

Thanks in advance for your help
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cliff
Posted 2010-03-31 11:22 AM (#375415 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Go to a sewing supply store & buy a little rubber "thimble".
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cholloway
Posted 2010-03-31 11:33 AM (#375416 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Jeez buddy. You own a special order Adamas 2080 and you don't know enough about it but to call the top "some kind of imitation woven pattern"!!!
No wonder O's & A's get no respect. ;)

Do as Cliff says.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-03-31 11:40 AM (#375417 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Trim the nail on your pinkie. Seriously, I, too, rest my pinkie on the top, but it only causes a smudge, never a scratch. It could be how the ball of my finger rests in contact with the top, and the fact that I am a flat picker and keep all the nails on both hands ultra short, although I am currently experimenting with a hybrid style so I'm letting the index nail grow out. Unfortunately, this is something with which I am totally uncomfortable. I just know its going to break and split and then take six months to grow out.
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cliff
Posted 2010-03-31 11:41 AM (#375418 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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". . Do as Cliff says . ."

REALLY???
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Waskel
Posted 2010-03-31 11:48 AM (#375419 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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That Colin... such a kidder...
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-03-31 11:52 AM (#375420 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Originally posted by cliff:
". . Do as Cliff says . ."

REALLY???
Clifford, print out this thread and frame it. It will never come again....
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cholloway
Posted 2010-03-31 11:53 AM (#375421 - in reply to #375414)
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it was the best i could come up with. (saracasm isn't ALWAYS easy!)
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Waskel
Posted 2010-03-31 12:11 PM (#375422 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Originally posted by cholloway:
(saracasm isn't ALWAYS easy!)
And easily unrecognized as such.
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-03-31 12:15 PM (#375423 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Just play it. If you can rub a hole in the CF top, there's gonna be so much mojo played into that guitar no one will care if there's a mark on the soundboard.
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PEZ
Posted 2010-04-02 5:27 PM (#375424 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Ditto Bobbo
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FlySig
Posted 2010-04-02 6:59 PM (#375425 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Do you have a museum piece or a thing which you use for a purpose? If it is a collector's item that should be kept pristine, don't play it very often. If it is a thing to be used, use it.

I'm all about keeping stuff nice, just ask my kids and wife about door dings in my car that happen in my own garage!! But, any thing that is used will experience normal wear and tear. I think that minor marks from fingers or picks is to be expected, though the Adamas top should be fairly tough to mark visibly. Use it, enjoy it, and maybe keep it forever.

The value you get from an item is the pleasure it brings you or the utility it provides. Any residual dollar value when you are finished is gravy.
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MWoody
Posted 2010-04-02 8:14 PM (#375426 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Cliff offered some thimble advice.

But using a Bra might work better for you:

Removal PG Bra Material on Ebay
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MusicMishka
Posted 2010-04-02 8:16 PM (#375427 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Ship it back to the factory and have a gloss finish applied...call first...

Or you coulda/shoulda bought an OFC II...ah but then again, there were only 8 made... :p :eek: :D ;) :rolleyes:
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2010-04-02 8:34 PM (#375428 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Learn to play without resting your pinkie. It won't be that hard or take very long. And with that pinkie freed up, you might just find that you use it to pick with sometimes too.
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-04-02 9:08 PM (#375429 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Originally posted by CanterburyStrings:
Learn to play without resting your pinkie. It won't be that hard or take very long. And with that pinkie freed up, you might just find that you use it to pick with sometimes too.
Ditto, best advise yet.
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MWoody
Posted 2010-04-02 9:20 PM (#375430 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Alison is correct, but as a fellow Pinky-Planter... all I can say is that Doc Watson does it too!
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2010-04-03 5:41 PM (#375431 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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I do too, sometimes. On some of the faster songs I find that thumb, index and middle finger work best - the others just get in the way. But I TRY to keep the pinkie floating just above the soundboard instead of actually touching it.
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TAFKAR
Posted 2010-04-03 5:54 PM (#375432 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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I'm with Alison, pinkie should not touch the face when you are finger picking. Your finger picking will improve!
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Designzilla
Posted 2010-04-03 7:22 PM (#375433 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Funny, that planted pinkie is a habit I have tried to break unsuccessfully for years. I can do it for a while but next thing I know, it's back planted on the fingerboard.

But hey, I hear Doc Watson does it too.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-04-03 7:41 PM (#375434 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Chet Atkins planted his pinkie on the top of his guitar unless he needed it to hit a string. That's a pretty good recommendation that there's probably nothing wrong with it.

Do whatever's comfortable to you and don't worry about it. If I had to pick either Alison's way or Chet's way, I'd probably go with Chet. But really, there is no right way or wrong way. Maybe find your own way?
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CanterburyStrings
Posted 2010-04-03 7:57 PM (#375435 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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I'd plant my pinkie and anything else I had handy if I could play like Chet!
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RomanS
Posted 2010-04-08 10:37 PM (#375436 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Joan Baez the Queen of folk rests her pinky! And has been doing so for 40 odd years . Long live the pinky resters!!!!
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muzza
Posted 2010-04-09 12:09 AM (#375437 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top



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Back to the original question -> hot glue gun.
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Prestocat
Posted 2010-04-09 12:58 AM (#375438 - in reply to #375414)
Subject: Re: Adamas top


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Yes, but with the top free to vibrate, your guitar will sound better. Those other cats sound great despite planting the pinkie, not because of it. I vote for getting that hand free of the top to let it vibrate.
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