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twistedlim
Posted 2010-04-23 2:26 PM (#373617)
Subject: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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My wife is urging me to play a couple of songs at local, very low key coffee house. The thought terrifies me. I was at the winter jam and could not make it through a song I can play in my sleep at home because I was nnnnneerrrvvvouuuss.
I watched Brad and Brian play at an open mic and they have a very relaxed fun attitude that escapes me.
Do you just dive in? Does confidence come quickly or slowly after many outings.
I can play OK and I don't think my voice would detract from the songs too much but...
I have no problems playing in church as I am one of many and I can hide behind the piano :) .
Any suggestions would be appreciated.
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dobro
Posted 2010-04-23 2:30 PM (#373618 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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Try finding a "partner-in-crime": if you can get comfortable rehearsing some tunes and achieving a level of "repeatablity" just one-on-one, you'll have a support structure when you take the show on the road. Worked for me!
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G8r
Posted 2010-04-23 2:42 PM (#373619 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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You're already "playing out" if you're playing in your church band. Just dive in (worked for me). As Matt says "ain't no problem 100 gigs won't cure."
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BT717
Posted 2010-04-23 2:45 PM (#373620 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Rich, I know exactly how you feel. My first time was a bit of a disaster and it wasn't even really my own doing (faulty house cables which due to my inexperience caused me to freeze up. I did finish the next 3 songs mistake free)

Anyway, the one thing that helped me and was told to me by many experienced musicians is that the Audience WANTS you to succeed. They WANT you to do well and they RARELY "hear" a mistake unless YOU make it obvious by stopping or doing something additionally that makes them aware of it (Making a face, groaning....) Play through it
The first one is the hardest,get through that and you will be fine.
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Mr. Ovation
Posted 2010-04-23 2:48 PM (#373621 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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My only advise is..

It's ok to feel "butterflies" when you get on stage.... just get them suckers to fly in formation and you'll be fine.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-04-23 2:48 PM (#373622 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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Start when you're 4 years old. By the time you sign your first contract at 9, there's nothing to it. Incidently, you never want to be so comfortable in front of an audience that you take your performance totally for granted. You'll be flat and the audience will know it. A few butterflies during your opening number never hurt anybody.
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twistedlim
Posted 2010-04-23 2:50 PM (#373623 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Thanks for the advise guys, it is appreciated.
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-04-23 2:53 PM (#373624 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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I'm thinking of doing some open mics myself. I'm not too worried about being nervous up there...I'm more worried about forgetting lyrics, which I seem to do more and more these days. Does anyone out there use cheat sheets on stage?
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G8r
Posted 2010-04-23 2:56 PM (#373625 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Originally posted by dark bar:
Does anyone out there use cheat sheets on stage?
Abso-effing-lutely. Nothing wrong with that. Cliff has a neat device (looks like a Kindle) made specifically for that - load all your music/lyrics/chord sheets in pdf. Or, as Dave just pointed out a couple days ago, you can do a similar thing with the iPad (although that doesn't yet have a stand adapter).
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Meuti
Posted 2010-04-23 2:56 PM (#373626 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Twisted... there is only one advice: Just do it! You will never ever regret it.
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alpep
Posted 2010-04-23 3:16 PM (#373627 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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if you are not nervous then you have a problem.
focus your eyes on the tip of the microphone that way you will not see the audience and can concentrate on what you are doing.

if is nice to look out from time to time and see smiles though
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stephent28
Posted 2010-04-23 3:26 PM (#373628 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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Originally posted by alpep:
if is nice to look out from time to time and see smiles though
or the angry villagers so that you will have time to plan your escape.
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Yak
Posted 2010-04-23 3:33 PM (#373629 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Can't imaging playing out. I get nervous just recording (video) myself playing in the comfort of my own home. The easiest songs I have played 100 times somehow I forget.

So I have no advice for you :-)
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-04-23 3:39 PM (#373630 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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I've said it before....I'm more nervous playing in front of a camera than I am a live audience. Don't know why that is???
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-23 3:50 PM (#373631 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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All good advise so far.
About cheat sheets... If you are Cliff (shudder) and are doing a gazillion songs some level of cheat sheets are needed. If you are just doing 2 or 3 songs it's best, in my experience, not to use them. As weird as it sounds, cheat sheets have goofed me up at times. You'd think... If I get lost all I gotta do look down and I'm safe... Not so easy. In that brief instant it takes to look down and find your place, bad, bad things can and will happen. You're asking your brain to do one more thing when it's already plenty busy.

In the few days before play the songs over & over & over until you are sick of them. That way by the time you get up there the chords and words are not a problem and you can use the extra effort to act like you still enjoy the tune.

My worst real life nightmare was drawing a blank on the first words in Pretty Women. It don't get much worse than that.
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schroeder
Posted 2010-04-23 3:52 PM (#373632 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Most important to remember is that the answer is NOT alcohol.
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G8r
Posted 2010-04-23 4:01 PM (#373633 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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You're asking the wrong question, then.

(Seriously, tho, Clive is right. No more than 1 beer to calm the nerves a bit. Any more than that & you're guaranteed to screw up)
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Fridave
Posted 2010-04-23 4:04 PM (#373634 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Originally posted by schroeder:
Most important to remember is that the answer is NOT alcohol.
Oh yes it is ! But it must be administered in large doses to the members of the audience.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-23 4:06 PM (#373635 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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Rich... Play a song at Huber. After that a coffee house will be a piece of cake.
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Beal
Posted 2010-04-23 4:32 PM (#373636 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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write out the words
then leave them at home
bring your favorite pick
and loose it on your way to the stage
don't bother to tune
have the wrong strap so you have to sit in an uncomfortable chair
then say fuck it and just do it anyway
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FlySig
Posted 2010-04-23 4:49 PM (#373637 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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Originally posted by Beal:
write out the words
then leave them at home
bring your favorite pick
and loose it on your way to the stage
don't bother to tune
have the wrong strap so you have to sit in an uncomfortable chair
then say fuck it and just do it anyway
Is that a lost verse from "Ironic"?
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stephent28
Posted 2010-04-23 4:54 PM (#373638 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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nice flysig
nice :cool:
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-04-23 5:25 PM (#373639 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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Originally posted by Beal:
write out the words
then leave them at home
bring your favorite pick
and loose it on your way to the stage
don't bother to tune
have the wrong strap so you have to sit in an uncomfortable chair
then say fuck it and just do it anyway
EXACTLY what happened to me at Amelia ... but you gotta add that you need to play someone else's guitar that has no fret markers and the side dots are the same color as the binding and there are no lights on the stage except for floor lamps and the music stand.
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schroeder
Posted 2010-04-23 5:29 PM (#373640 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)


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Did ya break a string as well?
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-04-23 5:34 PM (#373641 - in reply to #373617)
Subject: Re: OK how do you do it? (playing out)



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As a matter of fact, I did.
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