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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-25 7:31 AM (#373533)
Subject: Fretlight Demo



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Well... I got it up & running.
Here is a short video showing part of what it does.
Note how you can slow a song down to a crawl.
NING video.. HERE
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Darkbar
Posted 2010-04-25 9:10 AM (#373534 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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Thanks a lot for the early Sunday morning brain seizure, Brad.
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kentrookie
Posted 2010-04-25 10:11 AM (#373535 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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Interesting product.
Compared to what I am paying for lessons seems reasonable, if it works for you.
How good is the lesson content?
Can you upload your own music to the guitar?
Transposition?

Anticipated future pithy comments

Can I use it with Guitar Hero?
Will SWMBO be able to control it (and send me honey do messages)?
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-25 10:36 AM (#373536 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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I'm just scratching the surface.
Lots of lesson content. Scales, theory, etc.

Will light up any scale in any or all positions while providing a backing track in any key. Chose any key and the scales change to fit.

Will light up one scale position for two runs though a blue pattern then automaticly move to the next position up the neck.

Will blink the root notes in the scale.

You cannot program your own songs in but there are hundreds of downloadable songs.
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MWoody
Posted 2010-04-25 11:46 AM (#373537 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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How about B# or Cb?

Look'in good Brad!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-04-25 12:02 PM (#373538 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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Look at that yoyo, that's the way you do it! You play your guitar on the OFC.

Are there a lot of different genres represented with songs ... i.e do they have classical guitar pieces, jazz, or the tricky hard stuff like AlanM plays?
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-04-25 12:14 PM (#373539 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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This is very cool. How much did it run?

Problem with it, like with all instructional stuff, is you actually have to work at it to get good. I'm waiting for the "take a pill and play like Django Reinhardt" method of playing.....
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-25 1:14 PM (#373540 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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Moody... 'bout $500 with the upgrades I choose.
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Bobbo.. Funny you should ask. I have been in contact with the Fretlight guys about Alan's stuff. I referred then to Alan's website to see what they could do.
After some research and destroying a couple guitars in the process they came to some conclusions.
1) They can't figure just what key it's in.
2) They can't seem to get the electricity to the lights fast enough to keep up.

They figure that in 15 or 20 years the technology might catch up with the art.

And bobbo... I'm not sure about the genre thing. I have not dug deep enough.
I do know that they show travis pick stuff.
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cholloway
Posted 2010-04-25 1:14 PM (#373541 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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Maybe I'm missing something.
It looks like it shows you where to fret the strings to play the song, but
you still don't know what note or chords your playing.
That's just memorizing their arrangement.

Is there more to it than that?
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-25 1:16 PM (#373542 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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You can use it for pure muscle memory or get as deep into theory as you want. Lots of lesson material.
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2ifbyC
Posted 2010-04-25 8:35 PM (#373543 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo
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Kewl...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-04-25 10:04 PM (#373544 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo
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Doesn't Arthur Murrey have something like this that lights up footprints on your floor to teach you how to dance?
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G8r
Posted 2010-04-26 12:00 AM (#373545 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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Pretty cool. That's a hardware implementation of something that's been in GuitarPro software for quite awhile. Of course in GuitarPro it just shows the fretboard and fingering on your screen as the notes play. That's a neat trick to show it on your actual guitar.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-26 7:04 AM (#373546 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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I just counted the number of backing tracks provided in the "improvisor" section.
150 with names like:
Classic Blues 1&2
Domimant 7th Variations
Dorian Workout
Harmonic Minor Swing
Hindu Scale Folk Jam
Lydian Diminished Jam
Mixolydian Funk
Southern Rock 1&2
Two Five One Jazz Jam
The Blue Door - Cuban Salsa
and 140 more
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-04-26 7:34 AM (#373547 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo
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That set list sounds like GWW's album track listing. Man, I wonder if you could turn them all ON at the same time in some sort of psychotic meditation splitting headache. Sort of like Adrian Legg, but not quite as bad.

So what's it actually like to PLAY the thing? Are you just mesmerized by the lights and trying to blindly slap down your fingers in the right spot? I've gotta try this some day. I can't help but think of it as a guitar players version of Whack-A-Mole. We could call it Whack-A-Riff.

But seriously, if this thing 1) makes you play/practice more, 2) enjoy the process, 3) actually improve your playing ... then it was money well spent.
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bcoombs
Posted 2010-04-26 12:22 PM (#373548 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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They used to sell a Fretlight-ready version of Guitarz (v. 6.6), which allowed you to import tab files in ASCII format. Guitarz would then play the song in midi, and light up the notes on the fretboard, again with the ability to slow down the song to learn/practice.

They also sell AxMaster, which seems like a pretty good learning tool, and would be very good for an instructor that might want to use the Fretlight guitar to teach students, since you can create your own lesson content as well.
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-26 12:24 PM (#373549 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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"Wack-a-mole" describes it well. But I think there is a more productive way to use it.
I'm brand new with the thing but I think I've come across a way to make it work for me.
First I'll just put the guitar on the stand and watch it blink at me for 10 minutes. It's like watching someone else play it and gives me a idea of what real estate I have to cover.
Then vary the playback speed while I try to do the whack-a-mole thing.

Once I get the form somewhat handled I can hit the foot switch which turns off the blinking lights but keeps playing the backing track.
The blinking lights are a firm taskmaster and can be a more of a problem when you have the basic pattern but are just trying to smooth it out.
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It also allows me to take one section of the song, (intro, bridge, solo, etc) and puts it in a loop.
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bcoombs
Posted 2010-04-26 1:54 PM (#373550 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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Brad, let me know if you'd like to check out Guitarz (for tab). I think I might still have the zip files somewhere.
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AlanM
Posted 2010-04-26 10:12 PM (#373551 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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Originally posted by Slipkid:
Moody... 'bout $500 with the upgrades I choose.
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Bobbo.. Funny you should ask. I have been in contact with the Fretlight guys about Alan's stuff. I referred then to Alan's website to see what they could do.
After some research and destroying a couple guitars in the process they came to some conclusions.
1) They can't figure just what key it's in.
2) They can't seem to get the electricity to the lights fast enough to keep up.

They figure that in 15 or 20 years the technology might catch up with the art.

And bobbo... I'm not sure about the genre thing. I have not dug deep enough.
I do know that they show travis pick stuff.
Errrrrrrrrr...huh?

So, there I was just sittin' there mindin' my own business, and I think I just took a SERIOUS razzin'!

Funny, though...
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stephent28
Posted 2010-04-26 10:33 PM (#373552 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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AlanM consider yourself part of the "in" crowd when your privileged enough to be "razzed" on. It must mean they really like you!


Medications #69 & 96......
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Slipkid
Posted 2010-04-26 10:54 PM (#373553 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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Originally posted by AlanM:

and I think I just took a SERIOUS razzin'!
You think? ;)
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AlanM
Posted 2010-04-26 11:11 PM (#373554 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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Welllllll...ya can't be too sure of ANYTHING around here!
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stonebobbo
Posted 2010-04-26 11:29 PM (#373555 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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That's for sure.
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Waskel
Posted 2010-04-26 11:58 PM (#373556 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo



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Nothing is for sure.
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schroeder
Posted 2010-04-27 5:43 AM (#373557 - in reply to #373533)
Subject: Re: Fretlight Demo


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Though this week you can get 3 for $5.
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