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bvince
Posted 2010-09-10 4:46 PM (#364748)
Subject: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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I decided to move this to a new post and off the "What to Do" post...

Well she finally made it in. I was a little suprised to see the 1547 style epaulets on it, but they DID say they've run out of the old-style eppis for this model. There is a little discoloration along side the epaulets where the old ones were previously, but it's not that noticeable. There were also a few dings the seller did not mentioned, but it looks like the factory filled them in. Overall the guitar looks and plays great. It just looks like a morph between an 87C and a 1547, which is kinda' cool. Does anyone know what the fretboard is made of? it looks a bit different to me than ebony, and I can't find the collector's guitars on the factory website. I'll post pics as soon as I get a chance. Here are the pics from the sale: Ebay 08C sale
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-10 10:04 PM (#364749 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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The fretboard is ebony. I'm looking forward to the pics.

I think, about 2 years ago, I got the last OEM set of 87C epaulets. I won't apologize.....
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bvince
Posted 2010-09-11 10:57 AM (#364750 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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I'm happy for you moody (;

Hey! I also did an inside inspection of the guitar and was amazed to find the birch ply under the upper bout just like the 1537! I had not seen that in other pics of other guitars. The top construction was exactly like my 1537.(VERY COOL) ... so I guess that just makes all the more sense of the 1547 epaulets. I've always wanted a 1547, and it looks like I now have one ... on bling steroids. How cool is THAT? Thanks for the info about the fretboard. It has a swirly-type grain in it that I haven't seen before. Probably needs a bit of oil. I'll be spending some time today cleaning the whole thing up before her photo shoot.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-11 4:35 PM (#364751 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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I bet it's a beautiful guitar, both in appearance and sound. Don't worry about some differences in appearance.

My 87C is all original except that just before I got it, the neck was replaced. And a few years ago when it was damaged, the body was replaced. But the tuners and label are original.

Oh, and I have the only 87C with an OP Pro in it. I love that guitar.....
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bvince
Posted 2010-09-11 5:20 PM (#364752 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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I would have had an OpPro installed in mine also, but I think the repair cost I had would have doubled. I asked about installing the Optima, but they said there are no more tuners for that preamp. Oh well ... I'll just have to watch for a used one for sale. (???Anyone have one?)
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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2010-09-11 6:02 PM (#364753 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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Looking forward to pics.
Of course now I've go to get on google and find a pic of a 1547 so I'l know what epaulets you guys are talking about :)
I think afterwards I'll play my 87C for a bit as well.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-11 9:09 PM (#364754 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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Always thought the epaulets for the 1547 were the same as the 1537....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-09-12 9:50 AM (#364755 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C
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Paul, Wasn't there something different in the epaulets on my 87 compared to yours? I forget and never noticed, but you pointed it out to me. I think one of the segments on mine was ebony and yours was cherry or something like that.



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Michael R. Winters
Posted 2010-09-12 10:46 AM (#364756 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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Yeah those black "Leaves" are different for sure.
Mine doesn't have 'em.
How interesting.
Do you think yours went back to the Factory for something and they put those on or do you think it was one of those, "Hey these two epaulet sets ar sitting here so I'll just throw them on for kicks, years later somebody's gonna go nuts wondering why their guitar is different" - type things.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-12 11:07 AM (#364757 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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Dave, those were the epaulets for the 93C (I am so damned embarassed that I know this stuff -- I gotta go get a life)....
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-09-12 1:18 PM (#364758 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C
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Wonder how they ended up on my 87?

I bought it used so I guess it's possible that it was reworked prior to me getting it.
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-12 2:49 PM (#364759 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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I thought you sent it to the factory to have the top refinished...
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-09-12 4:14 PM (#364760 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C
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Crap, you're right. How come you remember more about my guitars than I do ???

Guitar arrived to me with a finish crack from shipping and I think I immediately turned it around and sent to the factory to get reworked.

Good catch (for a PI). I forgot who I sold it to. Someone here have it? Would be sorta unique I guess an 87C with ebony 93C epis.
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Weaser P
Posted 2010-09-12 8:11 PM (#364761 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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Last I knew your lawn guy was trying to sell one just like that. Cheap too.
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bvince
Posted 2010-09-13 8:16 AM (#364762 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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OK ... Here are some pics as promised.
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Gallerinski
Posted 2010-09-13 8:31 AM (#364763 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C
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WOW. Looks nice
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bvince
Posted 2010-09-13 9:47 AM (#364764 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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Not as heavy as, but sounds and plays just like my 1537. Seems to be a little more even accross the freequency spectrum than the 1537 though. It kinda' reminds me of the sound of a Martin ... but better (;
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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-13 10:40 AM (#364765 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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Ok. Those are the old style Elite eppies. Not quite as fancy as a 87C original eppies, but I wouldn't complain or kick it outta bed for eating crackers. It looks great!

I know what you mean about an 87C having a different sound (slightly) than a 1537. I can't quite put my finger on it, but they are not the same.

What was done at the factory?
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bvince
Posted 2010-09-13 1:36 PM (#364766 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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All they did was remove and replace the epaulets. Check out the old ones on the first post. There are still a few noticeable dings also that they also filled. It looks like they also sprayed a bit of clear on the top also. It isn't perfect, but they did a lot even though I didn't have them refinish the top. I'm still looking for an Optima pream to replace the old OP24. I bid on a parts guitar last night to try and get the preamp off it, but it went for too much.
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Carol
Posted 2010-09-13 1:50 PM (#364767 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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That parts guitar would probably be the one from Manchester Music Mill in NH. I took a look at that CL 1869 in person and it was pretty well beaten up. It really did go for waaaay to much.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-09-13 1:58 PM (#364768 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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Originally posted by moody, p.i.:
Always thought the epaulets for the 1547 were the same as the 1537....
Based on prototypes of these two models, the epaulets were similarly shaped (aside from the obvious difference on the treble bout), but the 1537 proto from 1982 (produced as a wood-topped SSB Adamas) were 9-piece whereas the 1547 SSB proto from 1984 were 4-piece. Incidently, the original slotheads, 47RI and OFC reissues (and other customs based on these models) had 13-piece epaulets.

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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-13 2:56 PM (#364769 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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I've tried to count the pieces of wood on my OFC slothead and have come up with a higher number than 13 (22?)while getting a headache.

I knew the epaulets for the prototype 1537's were different than the production 1537's (based on seeing and playing Bill's and seeing pics of Glen Campbell's (the inlays on the neck are different from the production 1537's as well).

But with the exception of the treble side, the full epaulet on the bass side of the 1547 is the same as the production 1537 and the production Elite. Or at least it looks that way to me.....
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-09-13 3:34 PM (#364770 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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According to the factory, the slotheads are 13-piece. There may appear to be more because of the location of the holes. The same side epaulet on my OFC-I, 1187 SSB and Mark's original No. 43 are almost identical. The stain or specific type of exotic wood used on one of the cuts might vary, but the similarity is otherwise striking.
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ProfessorBB
Posted 2010-09-13 3:48 PM (#364771 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C



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No. 43 versus OFC-I No. 5 (No. 43 shown first):


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moody, p.i.
Posted 2010-09-13 3:51 PM (#364772 - in reply to #364748)
Subject: Re: Finally Arrived ... 87C


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Hey, once I got beyond my fingers, I'm lost....

(cool pics - thanks Brad).....
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