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Purchasing music.... the new normal?
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| Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | While listening to The Acoustic Cafe today something really caught my ear. Didn't catch the important information so I'm stuck trying to find out where to buy it. I remember Dhani Harrison was involved but a search lead nowhere. Then I went to the A.C. website and found a detailed playlist from this mornings show was already posted. I figured out which one it was because I remember what was played just before it. Sooo.. Amazon dot com... click- click.. and there it was. It's not available yet so I bookmarked it and will keep checking in. There will be nothing advertised when this is released. It will never be played on the "corporate" stations. The odds of me catching it on the Acoustic Cafe again are slim and none. Here is the link... Fistful of Mercy Go down to track 4 called ..... "Father's Son" It may not strike you like it did me but the point is that the days of hearing it on the radio and going over to the record store are long gone. Yeah... most of you already know this but today it was a real revelation to me. | ||
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| cholloway |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 2793 Location: Atlanta, GA. | Yeah Brad. You can't get anything on 45's anymore either. :( | ||
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| Beal |
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Joined: January 2002 Posts: 14127 Location: 6 String Ranch | Pretty soon you won't be able to get ammo for your 45 either. | ||
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| Slipkid |
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Joined: September 2003 Posts: 9301 Location: south east Michigan | Even I knew that! | ||
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| nikon4004 |
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Joined: September 2008 Posts: 1281 Location: Ohio | Nope...Seems the Glock 9mm is the standard of choice.... | ||
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| FlySig |
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Joined: October 2005 Posts: 4081 Location: Utah | You gotta roll your own (ammo) these days. | ||
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| Designzilla |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150 Location: Orlando, FL | The more normal experience for me is liking a song on pandora and clicking the "buy on iTunes" or "buy on Amazon" button. I also can't remember the last time I purchased a CD from a store. I have occasionally browsed CDs in a store and found something that I thought looked interesting, taken a picture of the cover on my phone and later looked it up on iTunes or Amazon to see if I liked it or not. And of course that's where I bought it. | ||
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| MusicMishka |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 5567 Location: Blue Ridge Mountains | I usually search the iTunes store for a particular song or artist to add to my library...a quick upload to my iPod and I'm ready to go...between the Computer audio system, my truck stereo, and my iPod, I'm never without sounds... My record collection is in the process of my converting it to digital via USB turntable... I loved the records but what a pain to move the collection every so often...same with my CD's...I started collecting music in one form or another in 1963...now I like the digital format just fine... | ||
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| Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761 Location: Boise, Idaho | SWMBO got me one of those USB turntables for Christmas, but after reading the directions, I thought, "we don't listen to the albums on the turntable anyway" so I haven't ever used it. | ||
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| Guitarzannie |
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Joined: March 2009 Posts: 715 | Originally posted by MusicMishka: Do you find that the sound is a bit compressed compared to CDs? I ask this because one day at my lesson, my teacher and I listened to "Father and Son" on CD vs. mp3. We could not believe how much of the sound was lost on the mp3. It was almost as if Alun Davie's parts were eliminated. I usually search the iTunes store for a particular song or artist to add to my library...a quick upload to my iPod and I'm ready to go...between the Computer audio system, my truck stereo, and my iPod, I'm never without sounds... My record collection is in the process of my converting it to digital via USB turntable... I loved the records but what a pain to move the collection every so often...same with my CD's...I started collecting music in one form or another in 1963...now I like the digital format just fine... After hearing this, I'm not completely sold on the new technology I guess. Michelle | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Of course it's compressed. The file is only 1/10th the size. The quality depends on the bitrate of the mp3 and the quality of the software doing the compressing. Though it is a very lossy format, cd's ripped at 320 or a variable bitrate with a high minimum can sound just as good. And there are lossless formats such as FLAC and Monkey. Too many people just want to get as much music as they can on their mp3 players and don't seem to realize (or don't care) how much audio quality they lose when they convert their cd's to a bitrate of 96 or 128. Of course, listening to it through 4.99 earbuds they couldn't tell the difference anyway... | ||
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| fillhixx |
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Joined: November 2005 Posts: 4833 Location: Campbell River, British Columbia | I buy CDs once a year at the VI Music Festival in the musicians tent. Other than that, most of the new artists I find seem to want to give away their music! (though their real fans like to give them money) must get one of those usb turntables though, so I can turn our 7,000 LP collection into something we can listen to......that'll be a good month. | ||
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| stonebobbo |
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Joined: August 2002 Posts: 8307 Location: Tennessee | I'm lucky to live in a place where there are still record stores. And I still buy records. Vinyl ones. And CDs. But I rarely buy and download mp3 or iTunes music, usually a single if I need it for something. Most new music gets spread by word of mouth and/or your own micro-community these days. I think there is more good music to be found right now than ever before. You need to stay connected and take a leap of faith from time to time. But thanks Brad for posting this, it's an example of how the whole concept works. Apple is trying to put some structure around this with their new Ping software add-on to iTunes. Amazon also has their "recommendations" service, but it's more product push than pure music information. | ||
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| an4340 |
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Joined: May 2003 Posts: 4389 Location: Capital District, NY, USA Minor Outlying Islands | Even in the old days it was still peer to peer. You'd go over to someone's house, listen to a record, or they'd tell you about someone they saw. Listening to the radio was also a source, as it is today, you just have to find the right college station in your area. The difference today, to me, is the magnatitude of the choices. It's so big, and there's so much. It's almost like looking for someone in a phone book with no names. | ||
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| alpep |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 10583 Location: NJ | I refuse to pay for mp3's the quality is horrible | ||
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| Gallerinski |
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| Joined: May 2008 Posts: 4996 Location: Phoenix AZ | Originally posted by alpep: This from a man who bought a set of used kettle drumsI refuse to pay for mp3's the quality is horrible | ||
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| Mr. Ovation |
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Joined: December 2001 Posts: 7247 Location: The Great Pacific Northwest | " listening to it through 4.99 earbuds they couldn't tell the difference anyway..." Ding ding ding... we have a winner. The days of the monster "music audio" system are essentially dead. The majority of people listen to music on headsets or in their car. XM/Sirius or computer based radio stations like Rhapsody and Livewire are the norm. Oh, and by the way... the "$4.99" earbuds are what we old farts use. The "kids" these days spend almost as much on the earbuds as they do on their shoes. "Ear buds" or "in ear headphones" as they are called by Klipsch, Sony, Sennheiser and Etymotic Research are in the $50-70+ range. | ||
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| Darkbar |
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Joined: January 2009 Posts: 4536 Location: Flahdaw | Here's the truth... "What is sound and frequency? Sound is a longitudinal mechanical wave of any frequency. Frequency is the number of cycles, or complete vibration experienced at each point per unit. Frequency is measured in hertz. The hertz, Hz, is the derived SI unit of frequency. The frequency of a sound wave determines its tone and pitch. The frequency range of a young person is about 20 to 20,000 hertz." As we age, our "hearable" frequency range decreases. Almost any low-priced headphones can reproduce sound in these ranges, as can cheap bookshelf speakers. | ||
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| TAFKAR |
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Joined: April 2008 Posts: 2985 Location: Sydney, Australia | Yeah Miles. Get a hearing test (now that we are all old farts) and you'll realise the super expensive stereo system is wasted on you. When I was 20, my father had a very expensive stereo system - testing with a sine wave generator revealed he couldn't hear anything over 16kHz, where as I made it up to 20kHz. Most of the benefits of expensive systems was in that range - the cheap systems performed OK in that range. I can still hear the difference between $4.99 ear buds and $20 ones, but I doubt the $70 ones would add much value to these old ears. | ||
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| standing |
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1456 Location: Texas | If you don't like the quality of songs purchased online, then just buy the CD, rip the songs (for your use only) to the highest bit-rate MP3s that your software allows, (or, better-yet, use a lossless format.) Put those files on your portable player of choice, use good-quality headphones (NOT the ones that came with your MyPod or whatever player you use) OR run the audio DIRECTLY from the digital player into your home or car music system (not through a cassette-adapter or FM tuner, etc.) and you CAN get sound that's comparable to the original CD. The drawback is that the files will be much larger, so you can't fit as many songs on the device… Now, if you just don't like the sound of CDs and really prefer the sound of vinyl… Then you probably shouldn't be messing with portable devices anyway… ;) It's a quality-versus-convenience issue. | ||
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| Mark in Boise |
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Joined: March 2005 Posts: 12761 Location: Boise, Idaho | I've never bit on the idea of a good car music system. A small room made of glass with an engine running in it and lots of outside noise just doesn't seem like the place for trying to listen to quality music. The prior owner spent too much for Bose surround sound in my car, but I wouldn't. The new owner of my old car immediately hooked up his mp3 player and that intrigues me. Changing CDs has become a hassle and I'm slowly seeing the benefits of satellite radio or mp3s. | ||
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| Waskel |
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Joined: February 2005 Posts: 11840 Location: closely held secret | Originally posted by standing: Now, if you just don't like the sound of CDs and really prefer the sound of vinyl… Then you probably shouldn't be messing with portable devices anyway… ;) ![]() | ||
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| Designzilla |
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Joined: December 2004 Posts: 2150 Location: Orlando, FL | Originally posted by standing: Exactly! It also depends on whether you want to listen to music or really hear the music. If that makes sense...It's a quality-versus-convenience issue. | ||
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| standing |
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Joined: December 2008 Posts: 1456 Location: Texas | Originally posted by Waskel: You're right Waskel, that IS portable, do you take that jogging? ;) Originally posted by standing: Now, if you just don't like the sound of CDs and really prefer the sound of vinyl… Then you probably shouldn't be messing with portable devices anyway… ;) Actually, it reminds me of my first "amp." I learned to play on a an import solid-body electric, and the only method I had to amplify it was my cheap portable record player which had a 1/4" line-in jack… man, THAT was a tone machine… ;) | ||
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| Gallerinski |
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| Joined: May 2008 Posts: 4996 Location: Phoenix AZ | Listening to music is just like different types of meals. Fast food on the go, quick snack, sit down meal, formal dinner. You choose. The quality and effort will very accordingly. | ||
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Purchasing music.... the new normal?